Got Shims?
Mitchrx
Posted 2005-01-10 3:34 PM (#166772)
Subject: Got Shims?


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For those in need of shims here's a suggestion. I was at a local hobby shop this past weekend and found that they had 1/4" X 12" stips of solid brass in thicknesses of .016", .025", .032" and .064". I bought all four for about $3.00. Although 1/4" is a little narrower than the stock plastic shims for the six element piezo saddle, once cut to the proper length they fit very nicely into the stock saddle slot. With the varying thicknesses, I was able to customize the action of my 1619CL to perfection. The thin ones are easy to cut, but I used a jeweler's saw to cut the thicker ones. I also put a very light coating of machine oil on them to make them stick together.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-01-10 4:01 PM (#166773 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?



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another suggestion is to cut from a plastic milk bottle...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-01-10 4:17 PM (#166774 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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Or cut up your credit cards. Benefits you in more ways than one.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-01-10 4:27 PM (#166775 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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I always thought that you would want a dense material for the shims so that all of the vibrations are transmitted efficiently to the top of th guitar. Brass is a whole lot denser than plastic. My guitar sounded fine with the factory shims and I haven't noticed a real sound difference with the brass. What I like is the ability to really customize the action with precision and you just can't achieve that with shims that are all the same thickness.
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willard
Posted 2005-01-10 5:55 PM (#166776 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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My 1769 had a strip of the "Ace of Clubs" under one of the stock phenolic shims.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-01-10 7:28 PM (#166777 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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IMHO, the best material is still at a hobby shop...Evergreen StripStyrene. The 0.188" width appears to be correct for the width of the shim I removed from my 2002 Collectors, and you can get it in .010", .015", .020" and .030" thicknesses. All you need to do is cut the strip to the proper length.

Roger
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Steve
Posted 2005-01-11 10:17 AM (#166778 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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roger, what material is StripStyrene made out of?..

steve
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-11 10:43 AM (#166779 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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styrene.
(the plastic they make model cars out of)
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-01-11 6:23 PM (#166780 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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Yes, it is polystyrene....meant for scratchbuilding model parts.

Roger
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-11 6:49 PM (#166781 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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. . . and giving pre-pubescent young lads their first healthy "buzz" . . . .
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cruster
Posted 2005-01-11 7:42 PM (#166782 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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No, cliff, that was the glue, not the styrene. But, I thought they changed the formulation so you couldn't get buzzed anymore. Or maybe that's just urban legend....
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-01-13 11:04 AM (#166783 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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cruster, there are TWO formulations.....one smells like citrus and won't hold much of anything, and then there is the "nasty smelly" stuff that actually WORKS.

Roger
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cruster
Posted 2005-01-13 11:55 AM (#166784 - in reply to #166772)
Subject: Re: Got Shims?


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IIRC, the active ingredient was toluene, no? Or maybe it was one of the others. I think I burned those brain cells out putting together models. ;) I hated planes the most...the canopies always got stringy glue stuck on them. =(
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