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Location: Minden, Nebraska | Hot price for a sweet one, auction ending soon:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33029&item=3769092355&rd=1 |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | I got mine from St. aLeX and it's without a doubt (IMHO) the finest guitar I've ever owned or played! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | These are the types of listings that keep me in the doghouse. I would love to snap this one up but sooner or later I have to look at the bigger picture.....
the OFC guitar, the 12 fret slothead, and some of the other great guitars coming out soon.
If I am not careful, when Al takes roll call and wants some money I will be left standing on the sidelines crying in my beer. :( |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | I'm very tempted to bid on this.. can anybody PM me with "fair" pricing? I couldn't find any closed auctions to help with valuation...
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Location: Yucaipa, California | David,
Check with Al
Al
... he's who I got mine from and it looks like he still has some.... |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | DVD - I'm not sure what you mean by 'fair' pricing, but I can tell you it is a smokin' deal at $635, which is where the price was at when I started this thread.
DISCLAIMER: I am not the seller, no do I know the seller. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | A fair price is what you are willing to pay to own it.
I would think anywhere between the current price and another $150 for that guitar would be a sweet deal.
Of course with Al you would get the new owners lifetime warranty. (His winning personality and physic powers come at no additional charge ;) ) |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Our local Guitar Center has had used 2002, 1993 and 1994 Collectors Edition guitars lately; they priced the 2002 at $999, and the 1993 and 1994 at $949, for reference.
IMHO, I would think that this would be a good deal if you could get it under $850 to $900, given the highly positive opinion here about the superb sound of this particular model.
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Location: Central Massachusetts | ZZZoooommmm, and away it goes, right out of my SO-negotiated pricepoint. bummer. maybe next time. |
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Location: NJ | At $1K, it's still a friggin' STEAL!!!
These guitars have a very unique sound, all their own . . . . |
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Location: Asheville, North Carolina | Man that is a killer looking guitar!
What does the redwood sound like? |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ...very warm, killer "wooden" tone... great unplugged and mic'd.... |
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Location: NJ | Without running the risk of sounding like a smart-ass (moi?) . . .
. . . it really DOES "sound" the way it "looks" . .
. . . it has a very warm, "reddish-brown" tone to it.
KILLER guitars! . . |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ...spot on!, my Equus Asinus friend ;) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | David,
The way this auction is going, it makes Al's price even more attractive for the 2001. You should go to his website or give him a call. |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | Agreed; call Al. This auction has taken on all the drama of what one OFC member called a 'eBay newbie death duel'. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Cliff, you mean it has a rosie glow to the sound? |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Thanks guys, I've already checked with Al. I will have to come back another day. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | "eBay newbie death duel" is a term I came up with a few years back even before I used it here.....what is funny is that a more experienced eBayer out-sniped both of them with 9 seconds to go!!!! :eek:
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | Yes, it was sniped for over a grand. What is to be celebrated is that a fine guitar like that is perceived to have that value. It is certainly worth it, compared to others in the same price range. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Unfortuantely, I believe that the beautiful figured top had more to due with the final selling price than the fact that it is a great sounding guitar. Take away that top and the price drops $200-300 IMHO. |
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Location: NJ | you are dead wrong. that guitar is probably one of the best sounding ovations out there.
I can't believe the price, I let them go for significantly less. |
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Location: NJ | I'm with Al.
This is no "dress it up to make it purty" PanelMeister.
Solid redwood top that gives it a fantastic sound, very distinctive, and very unlike anything else (soundwise) that Ovation's produced.
One day . . I WILL own one of these! . . |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ...when I was dealing with Al, I was looking at the African Cherry Collector's... but, being the astute and discerning gentleman that he is, he suggested the Redwood. I will ever be in his debt. Nothing compares to that guitar, absolutely nothing.
Thanks again AL! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Cliff and AL,
I think you missed my point.
I said that it was a great sounding guitar but that this particular one sold for more because some people will pay more for it's looks.
Otherwise, why wouldn't they just buy it from Al or someone like Al. As Al said "he sells them for significantly less". |
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Location: Tennessee | Al/Cliff/Whoever ...
Does the sound differ between the roundhole and the Elite-style versions of this guitar? Any preferences? |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ...I have the multi and when my wife snapped her head around and exclaimed "Wow, that sounds nice" and never has noticed my Balladeer, I'd say that the combo of Redwood and Multi-Holes is awesome... |
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Location: NJ | I've only played the multi-hole.
(In fact I played Tim's guitar BEFORE it was "Tim's Guitar" . . ;-)
Don't know how the two models compare . . |
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Location: RI. That small State out East | I found one... On the bay a few months back.
It "might" become available... Sweet guitar!
(As the 15 yr. old would say)
I will list it with pics when and if...
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Location: Yucaipa, California | (In fact I played Tim's guitar BEFORE it was "Tim's Guitar" . . ;-)
...EEEWWWWW! That must explain the "certain something" about that guitar! :D |
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Location: NJ | . . . I can see Tim running it down to the CSI lab now . . . |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ..actually it's comforting to know why, whenever I take it out of the case, I get a very strong urge to smoke a foot-long stogie ;) |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | I had a round hole 2001 Redwood top that was #2, but sent it back to the factory because the top was defective. At that time, I was told the round hole versions were custom order only. If that is true, there should be very few of them around. Al can confirm this, if it is true. |
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Location: NJ | I had about 4 round hole and maybe 8 epaulet models. Yes the center hole models were rarer.
Personally they both sounded great but I prefer the look of the epaulets. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Al,
You mentioned that the 2001 Redwood was one of the best sounding ovations out there.
How would you compare it soundwise to the new LTD 2005 12-fret slothead that you played. |
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Location: NJ | I think it is unfair to compare carbon fiber to wood tops. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Al,
Are you sure your not really a politician :D |
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Location: NJ | no just brutally honest and you would be surprised how many sales it costs me. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Since I have been on this board, this guitar has gotten more praise than any other. I suspect it is one of those coming together of various elements to create a super whole, this may be Ovations equivalent of a Martin D-28.
I doubt that the whiff from Tim's causes a desire to smoke a tobacco doobie, dang, I never learned to spell stogie.
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Does the 2001 Collectors have any "aroma" of redwood, out of curiosity? I just got a custom mountain dulcimer that has redwood top and bottom and it has a STRONG aroma of redwood when I take it out of the case. This is a good thing.
Maybe that is why Tim has the urge to smoke the foot-long stogie??? ;)
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | This thread inspired me to take out my 2001 and noodle a bit. No it doesn't smell like redwood... that would be nice tho.. Just like my Robert Burns cigars (which for machine rolled, store bought is a nice smoke).
The 2001 has a unique sound. The Ovation characteristic it carries is the consistant volume and tone for the entire scale. I have the epulet version, although the only difference Al and I were able to determine about the sound between Ep's and soundhole was that the soundhole sounded a little better to the person playing it, and the epulets projected away a little more.
The tone and overall sound of this guitar is closer to that of some of the high-end all wood "box" guitars. Very full range, very balanced without the normal mid-range punch. I'm not sure how this tone/sound would stand up as a lead in a mix, because it doesn't have that mid-punch and crispness that most of the other Ovations have. But as a solo instrument, the tone can only be described as sexy or romantic. I'm sorry, but that's all I can come up with. I used to use the term "smooth" but that really doesn't do it justice. It also has that "unfinished" style neck that I like and feels very comfortable.
I think they stumbled onto something with this model that really sets it apart from most of the other Ovation acoustics I've played. No you can't remotely compare this to a Carbon fiber or almost any other top for that matter. An Adamas sounds like an Adamas, this sounds like a 2001 Redwood Collectors. |
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2001 Redwood Collectors' Deal!