Guitar playing stool height
Alaskan Fly Guy
Posted 2004-09-27 11:15 AM (#177556)
Subject: Guitar playing stool height


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I normaly practice sitting on the couch but the other night my wife told me that my posture was terrible and I should use a stool. I think she is right so I'm looking for a nice guitar playing stool. Is there an "ideal" height for a guitar stool?
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MrDano
Posted 2004-09-27 11:27 AM (#177557 - in reply to #177556)
Subject: Re: Guitar playing stool height


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Get one that adjusts up or down! I prefer an armless desk chair - gives support, comfort, and I don't fall off as easily after a few drinks!!!

Dano
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Duncan J
Posted 2004-09-27 11:39 AM (#177558 - in reply to #177556)
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I spent years playing sitting on a soft couch that I sort of sank into, which resulted in shoulder problems from the increased angle of my arm draped over the (acoustic) guitar. I now have a harder couch, and also sit on a cushion.

My guess is you need a stool that gives you enough of a lap to perch your guitar comfortably (assuming you're not using a strap).
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-27 11:53 AM (#177559 - in reply to #177556)
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In my music room at home, I use a gas-lift operator's stool that allows you to adjust/vary the height to whatever feels comfortable at the time (it also has casters on it). At gigs, I use a tall, IKEA barstool that I can half-sit on (or stand when I need to) while playing with a strap.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-09-27 12:15 PM (#177560 - in reply to #177556)
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Originally posted by cliff:
I use a gas-lift operator's stool that allows you to adjust/vary the height to whatever feels comfortable at the time


CLiff using a gas lift? That conjurs up a visual I don't care to have!
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cruster
Posted 2004-09-27 1:57 PM (#177561 - in reply to #177556)
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For the record, I just wanted to point out that I've been diligent in cleaning up my act here on the board. Now, these other clowns...

:D
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-27 2:49 PM (#177562 - in reply to #177556)
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For at least the last year I have been playing standing up. Sitting on the arm of a couch is my second preference.
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-27 2:52 PM (#177563 - in reply to #177556)
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There are a lot of advantages to play standing.
ESPECIALLY if you sing . . . . .
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John B
Posted 2004-09-27 3:00 PM (#177564 - in reply to #177556)
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For some reason, I just can't get comfortable sitting on a stool and playing. My wife says I look better at gigs when I use a stool because I look more relaxed (I think that it's because it's harder to see me at all ;) ). I also have terrrible posture when using a stool, so I'm better off standing.
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musicamex
Posted 2004-09-27 3:20 PM (#177565 - in reply to #177556)
Subject: Re: Guitar playing stool height


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Originally posted by cliff:
There are a lot of advantages to play standing.
ESPECIALLY if you sing . . . . .


i agree cliff. with a bad back, i found that with a comfortable strap and shifting my weight and the neck angle throughout the night my back fares much better than with a stool. on a stool i have one foot on a rung and the other on the floor keeping time. the disadvantage of standing, for me anyway, with my harley davidson syndrome from the old days, is that if i try to use stomp boxes and expression pedals make me look like chester on gunsmoke trying to catch up to marshall dillon. i also make some unintended switches to other patches once in awhile----not always bad considering my limited skill level. at least the audience heard the same old pentatonic riffs with a different voice.

i have been thinking of building a simple collapsable tripod with a fat butt bicycle seat to lean on more or less in the standing position, just to ease the tired dogs and to stabilize me a bit for the floor units, and in case the owner or audience is feeling especially benevolant with mother agave's famous balance inhibitor. maybe even a hd camera tripod would be enough.

how have you been doing companero? playing allot? howz things in the decorator world these days with a soft economy?
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John Lawrence
Posted 2004-09-27 4:23 PM (#177566 - in reply to #177556)
Subject: Re: Guitar playing stool height


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Who wants to sit in stool...flush it down the toilet like everyone else!!?? :D

John L.
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-09-30 2:00 PM (#177567 - in reply to #177556)
Subject: Re: Guitar playing stool height


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how about a saw horse with a saddle on it
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musicamex
Posted 2004-09-30 2:15 PM (#177568 - in reply to #177556)
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i met a guy on the internet from southern cal that sent me photos of him and another guy playing a gig on saddles, that i think were on a log with legs. probably a skinny log is better than a wide horse. they were all dressed up in cowboy stuff and did a kind of comedy act from what i remember. too bad saddles dont come with a backrest like a chopper seat.
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Beal
Posted 2004-09-30 4:31 PM (#177569 - in reply to #177556)
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I gotta vote for those Pickin-Gliders that you can get at Elderly's around $350 and they're great for playing, no arms! and they slide back and forth. Nice padded seat.
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-09-30 6:46 PM (#177570 - in reply to #177556)
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350.? dayum talk about your specialty store mark-up.
I have a picture of a chick giving me a BJ while playing my guitar....lol
Why did I share that?.. I guess I thought this topic needed some spice.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-09-30 7:28 PM (#177571 - in reply to #177556)
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That's nothing. Temp has a pic of him wearing women's panties on his head while playing a gig. And he posted that pic.

On second thought, I don't think I want to go where this might lead.
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DiamondT
Posted 2004-09-30 10:34 PM (#177572 - in reply to #177556)
Subject: Re: Guitar playing stool height


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I guess I'll take a shot at bringing this topic back to the original subject :rolleyes: I use a armless desk chair at home for practicing. It's height adjustable with casters, and the backrest reclines just a bit. It's nice to be able to roll around and swivel if you have a beverage on a nearby table, or are looking to grab another peice of sheet music etc. I always use a strap to avoid any costly mishaps as well. Can't really offer any advice for on stage, as thus far I've always played standing. Not looking forward to the day I may need a stool :( I've worked with a few players who used bar stools though.

BTW I picked up my practice chair at the church sale :cool:
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Beal
Posted 2004-10-01 7:30 AM (#177573 - in reply to #177556)
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Many of the office type adjustable chairs have detachable arms. I've taken the right arm off on occasion and it works just fine. Still have the left to rest your arm on when you get lazy.
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-10-01 8:34 AM (#177574 - in reply to #177556)
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sometimes I like playing with 4 chicks chanting "light as a feather stiff as a board" under me. Its great til my headstock busts them in the mouth a couple of times.

C'mon guys you gotta admit...what to sit on to play your guitar is kind of lame.
If you canyt figure that out on your own, can you even play guitar?
Sorry it just strikes me as,... well a dumb topic
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Duncan J
Posted 2004-10-01 10:25 AM (#177575 - in reply to #177556)
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If you think the thread is lame then stay out of it.
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DavidE
Posted 2004-10-01 10:31 AM (#177576 - in reply to #177556)
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Here's the solution:
www.soundseat.com

I have a prototype of the breakdown model for gigs. I had to have one after trying one in the Ultrasound Amps booth at NAMM several years ago. Worth every penny!
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willard
Posted 2004-10-01 11:05 AM (#177577 - in reply to #177556)
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We call them chairs or stools. For some reason, drummers call them thrones? Who do they think they're kidding.
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Duncan J
Posted 2004-10-01 11:24 AM (#177578 - in reply to #177556)
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As an ex-drummer, I can tell you it's probably to make up for an inferiority complex. (How does that joke go? Drummers - they're the guys who hang out with musicians.)
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MrDano
Posted 2004-10-01 11:34 AM (#177579 - in reply to #177556)
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Ex-drummer - is there really such a thing as an ex-drummer??? :D
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Duncan J
Posted 2004-10-01 11:37 AM (#177580 - in reply to #177556)
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Only in the sense that I don't have a drum kit, or bongos, or congas, or any other percussion instruments around to play on. I'm sure I long ago lost all my chops - long roll, five-stroke roll, seven-stroke roll, triplets, etc. :(
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musicamex
Posted 2004-10-01 11:48 AM (#177581 - in reply to #177556)
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Originally posted by DavidE:
Here's the solution:
www.soundseat.com

I have a prototype of the breakdown model for gigs. I had to have one after trying one in the Ultrasound Amps booth at NAMM several years ago. Worth every penny!


this looks pretty cool.

billy, anything that has an effect on playing, good or bad seems to be a good topic imho. especially for some of us who feel the reminders of a misspent youth. even if you have a great guitar in your hands it is hard to get to that special out of body place where the magic starts to happen if you body is constantly reminding you it isn't comfortable. some musicians get there with chemicals, and others look for a way to make their body comfortable. some never get there at all.
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-10-02 4:57 AM (#177582 - in reply to #177556)
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didnt mean to piss in anyones post toasties

Just exercising my freedom of speach, must be the election coming up,... BTW I am voting neither Republican or Democrat, both support the Patriot act. Which is a giant crap on our constitutional rights.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-10-02 7:38 AM (#177583 - in reply to #177556)
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Yes!!!! I was able to subdue a severe knee-jerk reaction to address the last post! It was close though.
I noticed that Soundseat has a "wide-ass" model.
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musicamex
Posted 2004-10-02 12:54 PM (#177584 - in reply to #177556)
Subject: Re: Guitar playing stool height


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Originally posted by Billy Blaze:
didnt mean to piss in anyones post toasties

Just exercising my freedom of speach, must be the election coming up,... BTW I am voting neither Republican or Democrat, both support the Patriot act. Which is a giant crap on our constitutional rights.


an old fart like me is an allbran guy anyway. nothing could make compressed sawdust taste worse. lol.

i didn't mean to sound arrogant, but i really do play for that 1% of the time when the music happens but i somehow am not conscious of anything but the sound. it never used to happen to me at all. i have been playing for over 40 years and until about 5-6 years ago music was only part of a physical world thing. " how did these cables get so tied up when we stand in the same places all night---i need a thinner pick---start the next lead on the 5---i wonder how to signal the bass player his zipper is open---groan, why in the hell did i ever put a spool hub with no brake on my harley---etc etc.

i think i was trying to be too aware of what i was doing. i used to think (stoned) that i was finding that special place, or like santana said, playing inside of the note, but i listened to a few recordings and found the opposite to be true.

the more distraction there is the harder it is to let it happen instead of making an effort to try to make it happen. ie playing with a band, noisy bar crowd, back tired, ass falling asleep, mother agave keeping time with your pulse instead of the groove, a fox dancing just inches away----on and on all are distractions. i can count the number of times that out of body thing happened during a gig on my fingers. usually late with a small quiet crowd hanging on because they want to hear more and the band deciding to try something different. that 3 minute blues tune turns into 15 min and you don't know that till someone tells you.

just as hard for me if i am recording myself and keep playing with the gear. (till i got my hd recorder that i can turn on and forget it for a few hours). what ever blows YOUR hair back is fine with ME amigo.

anyway if i fit a wide ass chair for more than one reason, but it helps get me where i wat to go i can live with that. i learned more than one thing from this thread.
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-10-02 1:58 PM (#177585 - in reply to #177556)
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Lots of things I can relate to in that last post.
We have to love music to endure the things we do to make it happen. Sometimes its just down right funny though.
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J. R. Baker
Posted 2004-10-02 4:27 PM (#177586 - in reply to #177556)
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Originally posted by DavidE:
Here's the solution:
www.soundseat.com

I have a prototype of the breakdown model for gigs. I had to have one after trying one in the Ultrasound Amps booth at NAMM several years ago. Worth every penny!


Thanks David, If the members have any questions, please give me a call.

My best,
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musicamex
Posted 2004-10-02 4:35 PM (#177587 - in reply to #177556)
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do ovation fan club members get a special discount? how about banged up working musician fan club members who would always show off their wide ass at gigs?
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cruster
Posted 2004-10-02 5:08 PM (#177588 - in reply to #177556)
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Forget questions about discounts...as a keys guy, I want to know why the key player chair has a short back and the guitar player chair has a tall back. I mean, man, the guitar guys get all the chicks, all the perks, all the free beer, all the SPOTLIGHT, why do they need the tall back chair, too?

:)
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J. R. Baker
Posted 2004-10-02 8:41 PM (#177589 - in reply to #177556)
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Originally posted by musicamex:
do ovation fan club members get a special discount? how about banged up working musician fan club members who would always show off their wide ass at gigs?


Dear musicamex:

It is our policy to offer a discount to the members of any new forum that we join, but this MUST be OK'd by management. Some let us, and some do not. We understand, either way. Give me a call if you have questions.

My best,
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blandoon
Posted 2004-10-03 1:21 PM (#177590 - in reply to #177556)
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I use
one of these things from Ikea. Now I'm no expert, and I guess I'm not as "ample" as some of the true die-hards, but it works for me. No arms to get in the way, and it's comfy.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-10-03 1:52 PM (#177591 - in reply to #177556)
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That Ikea thing looks like a pommel(?) horse without the handles. What do you do?...straddle the thing?
I went to an Ikea in L.A. a few years ago. It is quite a different type of store.
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musicamex
Posted 2004-10-04 12:43 AM (#177592 - in reply to #177556)
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[i think he means the moderators need to say it's ok. cmon guys, i could get one sent to me on my trip to the states this month.

QUOTE]Originally posted by J. R. Baker:


Dear musicamex:

It is our policy to offer a discount to the members of any new forum that we join, but this MUST be OK'd by management. Some let us, and some do not. We understand, either way. Give me a call if you have questions.

My best,
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Woz
Posted 2004-10-04 9:52 AM (#177593 - in reply to #177556)
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Not very "portable"...
I've cut up a few old cedar stumps to what my 5'9" height feels good at when sitting. I leave the "branch" stub on the trunk and have a great place for my right foot. I might have 4 "stumps" in the music room.

Yes, the kids like to rib me and point out a fallen tree... Hey Dad I saw a few nice stumps today you should...

Woz

I also picked up an old chair made for a draftsman table...
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DavidE
Posted 2004-10-06 9:21 AM (#177594 - in reply to #177556)
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Well J.R., Miles and Al are an interesting couple. ;-) They'll probably demand free samples first. LOL...

I'd ask Miles. Al is a crotchety old man. Then again, you two might get along great.

I'll see Al in a couple of weeks. Doubt Miles will be there, but I'll see him in January most likely.
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J. R. Baker
Posted 2004-10-06 11:07 AM (#177595 - in reply to #177556)
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Thanks David!
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