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Location: NC | Question is how high will it go? It's a Ovation Elite LX 1778 that is up to only $305.00 with just over a day left. I may have to bid myself. |
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Location: NC | Forgot to leave the link.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3747865642&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT |
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Location: SoCal | I'd be a little nervous about the seller. Absolutely no track record and he doesn't state where he is. |
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| I agree with moody. Sellers with little or (in this case) no feedback, seldom get decent prices. I wouldn't use a selling price with this type of seller as a pricing guide on any type of product. |
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Location: south east Michigan | sniff...sniff
Something does not smell right.
If a deal is to good to be true, it usually is. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | If you:
Communicate with seller and get assurance of legitamicy
Use a payment method with "protection"
Get a low enough price
It "might" be ok.
If it is new and they go lower than $1049 it violates MAP and is probably not theirs to begin with!
Look at how the other businesses come across on their auctions. This is a high end product on a Rookie formatted site.
Not me. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Seller has NO track record, doesn't say where he is, no clue if the guitar is new or used, no picture of the real guitar....do yourself a favor and STAY AWAY from this.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Brad, that's not a bad smell- it's putrified!! The listing says "original 1968 pickup". Those critters weren't made 'til 1997, according to the archival records. Run, don't walk, away from this one! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | If it looks like dog shit,
smells like dog shit,
feels like dog shit,
tastes like dog shit,
it probably is.
Don't step in it! |
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Location: NW NJ | I sent the dude an email with a bunch of questions. Here's a copy of it:
"Questions about your item
Dear dpausch743,
I have a few questions about your guitar. Is it new and therefore comes with warranty? If not new, how long have you owned it and why are you selling? What is the condition of the guitar -- is there any damage, fret wear, cracks, dents, dings, chips, etc. Is ther anything not mint about the guitar? Do you accept PayPal, checks, credit cards, cashier's checks, money orders? How much are your shipping charges including insurance? Lots of questions, but the answers were not included in your listing." Jerk (editorial comment)
Of course he hasn't answered - he probably doesn't know any of the stuff cause the guitar probably doesn't even exist. Sounds like a good way to lose several hundred bux to me. definitely dog crap. |
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Location: NC | Well, I hate when there are no good deals out there to be had. It did seem to good thast is why I figured it would not end nowhere near $300-$400 range. You are right about feedback and history.......however we all begin somewhere on E-Bay which is "0" rating. If one uses a form of payment that is protected then your covered against the fraud aspect. Who really knows? I will contact the winner to see if they received a great guitar and buy! |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | He didn't respond to my questions, either. |
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Location: Kentucky | Mine either...did anyone get a response? |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | So, $560.00, eh? Well, we will see what the feedback profile looks like in a couple of weeks, I guess. Mighty cheap for an Elite, to be sure. Must have fallen off the truck, somewhere. |
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Location: Chicagoland U.S.A. | Didn't respond to two of my emails. I sent an email to the buyer warning him of a potential ripoff. I have been ripped severly twice before, lost over 4k on eBay and related deals. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | C2 - the term SWAG, stolen without a gun comes to mind.
No response to my inquiry as well. |
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Location: Vernon, CT | I don't use Ebay period. I need to see what I am buying up front and only through reputable dealers. It's teh only way to fly! Play On!
John L.
Custom Legend 1779-USA (on order)
Legend LX
Balladeer LX
Std. Balladeer
Celebrity C026
Tornado (1970)
Takamine 12 String
Martin D16GT
Fender P-Bass (1975)
Fender Strat (1974) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ebay is a double edged sword. Yes, I would prefer to see what I'm buying and also support local dealers, etc. But on the other hand, there are some really nice things that I've obtained from ebay that I never ever in a million years could have found locally. It's also allowed me to sell things at may times more than I could have gotten locally. There may be other on-line methods that are lower rick than ebay, but they don't have the massive selection that ebay has. I've had a few disappointing transactions and luckily have not lost more than maybe $500 total on ebay, but by and large I've been very pleased what what ebay has allowed be to do wrt buying and selling guitars. I do try to support the locals when technically and financially possible. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | I rise and stand in agreement with my esteemed colleague from Arizona. I have done virtually all of my acquisitions, and liquidations, through Ebay. I have generally been pleased with the outcomes, and integrity of the transactions. I agree it is significantly less anxiety-provoking to do business with familiar characters. Towit, I renew my appreciation to that great embodiment of curmudgeonry, the facilitator of mirth and pharmaceutical exploration, from the great state of New Jersey, Our OFC Administrator, Mr. Alexander Pepiak! (huzzah, cheers, and approbation erupt)
Hey, Al, get well! |
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Location: SoCal | I was burned once, on a car part, from Canada. Everything else I've done on ebay has worked out well. I have no problems with ebay. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Just got this in:
September 14, 2004, 04:08:32 PM, you wrote:
Dear dpausch743,
Is this instrument sold with a warantee?
Do you have a bussiness address that can be confirmed?
Do you have any pics of the actual guitar?
Hello woodfordmichael,
This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me. Have a nice day!
I'm sorry but "Run Forrest, Run!"
On the other hand I heard from the jubilant new owner of my Pacemaker! Ebay and UPS can work! |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by MWoody:
Just got this in:
September 14, 2004, 04:08:32 PM, you wrote:
Dear dpausch743,
Is this instrument sold with a warantee?
Do you have a bussiness address that can be confirmed?
Do you have any pics of the actual guitar?
Hello woodfordmichael,
This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me. Have a nice day!
I'm sorry but "Run Forrest, Run!"
On the other hand I heard from the jubilant new owner of my Pacemaker! Ebay and UPS can work!
I sh!t you not, I just received the EXACT SAME MESSAGE, word for word, from a zero-feedback seller (fdficker445) regarding a new Peavey Limited VT Quilt Top! Unfortunately, he replied to me the day after the auction ended!
And no, I wasn't buying anything new, I was just curious what was going on, as it was a Made in the US Peavey with a $40 start and no reserve. They just don't go for $200 every day, you know? |
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Location: Kentucky | I got the same e-mail..........
This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me.
Have a nice day! |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Like I said......a couple of weeks will tell. |
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Location: NW NJ | Same message to me too.
Hello robbiegross,
This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me. Have a nice day!
The other odd thing (if this deal could get any odder ...) is the next in his message which came before a repeat of my question:
"September 14, 2004, 04:08:52 PM, you wrote:"
I sent the question to him on the 10th ... hmmm - I really hope that this goes OK for the cat who bought it. |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Sniff....Sniff......
P.U.(this doesn't stand for Pick up.)
Phil :eek: |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Phil Wong:
Sniff....Sniff......
P.U.(this doesn't stand for Pick up.)
Phil :eek:
I hope it doesn't stand for Phenergan Unavailable! How will I make it through the winter???
Ahhh, the memories of phenergan syrup with codeine for a bad cough that wouldn't let me sleep...I wish doctors were as cool now as they used to be. |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | I have 2 jobs. I work in a psychiatric hospital and a local privately owned drug store. Unfortunately we have a few customers in the store that use Promethazine/Codeine (Phenergan/Codeine generic) chronically and we cannot get rid of them. Every time they come in for this medicine I have yet to see them cough.
I had Pneumonia 4 years ago. The Phlem I was coughing up came was dark brown. My doctor didn't even prescribe this medicine for me. I talked to the owner of the store and asked him if we could try to get rid of these people. He didn't want to. Profit margin may be the answer.
Anyway, I just wanted Cruster to know that this medicine was still available.
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Location: Upper Left USA | You never know what will come up in these strings! |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | This may be an all new low! |
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Location: NC | I could have done without that mental image.....LMAO! |
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Location: Midland, MI | Phil-
Thanks for that.
I really did have a nasty cough one winter and that is what the doctor prescribed. I had never heard of it. I went home, and after not having slept for several nights, decided that if a teaspoon was good, a tabelspoon was better. I slept extremely well...nodding off about fifteen minutes or so later. When I woke up the next morning, my hair hurt. That was the only time I did that. The next winter, I had a respiratory infection of some sort and the same doctor prescribed the same thing. Worked a charm for quieting the cough, but the technicolor dreams were a bit much. I was really just being silly about PU. :)
FWIW, I've discovered that a nice hot toddy, (mixed as 1/2 coffee cup of good bourbon, 1 tbs. honey, two crushed aspirin, juice of one lemon wedge, topped off with hot water) has the same effect without the hurty hair.
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Location: Chicagoland U.S.A. | If you all rememeber, I sent an email to the winning bidder warning him of this jerk after I sent him 2 emails and got nothing back. Ultimately I did get the canned email he sent to a few of us. I put a low bid in just to get on the list in case anything came back from eBay after the fact. Lookie what I just got:
"The following is a courtesy notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:
User ID - dpausch743
Our records show that you were a bidder or buyer of one or more of this seller's items. We recently removed all of this seller's active listings and have suspended the seller's trading privileges. Due to privacy concerns we will not be able to share further details related to this seller."
That guy smelled like garbage from the beginning didn't he? |
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Location: SoCal | Here they go again!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33029&item=3749939995&rd=1 |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I don't get it. Why do the scammers pick on ovations? Or do they just say, hey, this week, I'll scam ovations, and then next week scam, peavey, working thru the alphabet? |
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Location: SoCal | They probably pick a hot guitar that's in demand and difficult to get. |
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Location: NC | I have contacted the winner of the 1st guitar that was auctioned. Have not heard from them yet as to how the auction went. I would assume maybe it could be a co-hort of the seller perpetuating this whole thing by driving up the bid. I also saw the second listing and another non-picture of actual merchandise. This is really going to be a pattern I believe. My understanding the 1st seller has been terminated. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Since he had no feedback, I asked for his name, address he ships from, and a contact number if something should go wrong. He did not respond for more than 36 hours. A good clue that it's a scam. |
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