Tornado v. Condor
moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-02-13 8:17 AM (#212409)
Subject: Tornado v. Condor


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What makes a Tornado different from a Condor?

For those that don't know, both were from the Storm series of Ovations in the late 60's to early 70's.
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Beal
Posted 2003-02-13 8:20 AM (#212410 - in reply to #212409)
Subject: Re: Tornado v. Condor



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Condor was made for Hammond with the organ/synth pickup. They were not offered for sale by O. They were also red to black s/b. None of the Ovations were, they were yellow to black
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Standingovation
Posted 2003-02-13 9:30 AM (#212411 - in reply to #212409)
Subject: Re: Tornado v. Condor



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Bill,
If my memory serves me well, I think I have also seen a wine red Condor. Is that possible? Maybe it's not original finish. Dave
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alpep
Posted 2003-02-13 9:35 AM (#212412 - in reply to #212409)
Subject: Re: Tornado v. Condor


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the condor pickup can be put onto any guitar. If I am correct the condors built by ovation had a C logo glued to the headstock
I have had several of these condor units. rather primative but fun
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-02-13 10:59 AM (#212413 - in reply to #212409)
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I just posted a picture of the full Condor rig in the gallery.
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Beal
Posted 2003-02-13 1:48 PM (#212414 - in reply to #212409)
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They were wine red and that was shaded out to the black edge.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-02-13 1:55 PM (#212415 - in reply to #212409)
Subject: Re: Tornado v. Condor


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I'd call mine more "sunburst" (like the Viper sunburst), but I do have problems with shades of reds colorwise (partially colorblind) so who knows, but it looks like my other sunbursts to me.

Also... to answer the original question...

Main Entry: tor·na·do
Pronunciation: tor-'nA-(")dO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -does or -dos
Etymology: modification of Spanish tronada thunderstorm, from tronar to thunder, from Latin tonare -- more at THUNDER
Date: 1556
1 archaic : a tropical thunderstorm
2 a : a squall accompanying a thunderstorm in Africa b : a violent destructive whirling wind accompanied by a funnel-shaped cloud that progresses in a narrow path over the land
3 : a violent windstorm : WHIRLWIND

Main Entry: con·dor
Pronunciation: 'kän-d&r, -"dor
Function: noun
Etymology: Spanish cóndor, from Quechua kuntur
Date: 1604
1 a : a very large American vulture (Vultur gryphus) of the high Andes having the head and neck bare and the plumage dull black with a downy white neck ruff and white patches on the wings b : CALIFORNIA CONDOR
2 plural condors or con·do·res /k&n-'dOr-"As, -'dor-/ : a coin (as the centesimo of Chile) bearing the picture of a condor.

Sorry, but someone had to do it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-02-13 2:51 PM (#212416 - in reply to #212409)
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Miles:
Sometimes you got waaaay too much time on your hands. But as long as you've got the extra time, can you scan and send me what we talked about this morning? Please.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-02-13 3:13 PM (#212417 - in reply to #212409)
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Yes it's an "after supper" task :)
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cliff
Posted 2003-02-27 8:47 AM (#212418 - in reply to #212409)
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This morning I was reading a review in Acoustic Guitar of the new Leo Kottke/Mike Gordon CD "Clone". In it Kottke mentions that on one song "Car Carrier Blues" he uses a Condor. He called it an "archaic piece of musical crap" and I suppose he only used it for it's "kitsch" factor. He described it as: The sound that you'd get if you could plug a leisure suit into a wall".
My thought is that it couldn't have been THAT bad if he decided to use it on the album!

Like the "Jellifish", everything has it's own place in a particular application.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-02-28 1:19 AM (#212419 - in reply to #212409)
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That's actually an interesting description. I have used the term "cheesey synth sound" for years to describe that kind of sound which has its place sometimes. However, after firing my Condor up last year (pic in gallery) I realized that I never heard Cheesey Synth before. It is truly the audible definition of it. It does it very well tho, with a lot of control, so I guess there is something to be said for that.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-02-28 6:38 AM (#212420 - in reply to #212409)
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Kottke is one hell of a player, but he can, in the interviews I've read, be one very cynical and sarcastic mother.
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cliff
Posted 2003-02-28 8:13 AM (#212421 - in reply to #212409)
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After going back to the article, there is a slight revision I have to make: While Mr. Kottke DID in fact make the ". . leisure suit . ." comment, I mis-quoted him on the other thing. What he SAID was that the Condor came courtesy of a Calif. collector friend of his who specialized in "archaic musical crap". Sorry, Leo.
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