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Location: St Louis | Went to see CSNY last night. Great concert. Here are some random thoughts on the show:
-Crosby and Stills need to take a few laps around the track.
-Nash was barefoot for the entire show.
-Personal song favorites: Immigration Man, Treetop Flyer (Stills, Nash), Southern Cross, Guenevere (Crosby, Nash), a Booker T song sung by Stills with Stills on keys and Young on guitar.
-Harmonies were surprisingly excellent.
-Stills is losing a bit of his voice (although very strong on the Booker T song).
-All four changed guitars between every song.
-Crosby only played electric on 'Rockin in the Free World' (last song of the night). The rest switched back and forth all night.
-Young broke three strings on 'Rockin the Free World'.
-Show started at 7:30 and ended at 11:00 with a 30 min break in the middle.
-Tshirts were $40 =/-.
Overall a great time was had by all. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I didn't go to the concert here in the Detroit area, but the word on the radio afterwards was that the concert was very POLITICAL.....lotsa Bush-bashing. Glad I saved my $100+ a ticket. Politics I can get on CNN, I pay to go to a concert for artists to play music.
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | What? You thought they wouldn't play 'Chicago'?
I go to lefty pinko artsy fartsy stuff all the time (as a practical Libertarian I most often get lumped, incorrectly, in with the 'c'onservative lot)I just go knowing what's I'm going to hear.
It's like going to the playground, you expect to hear a lot of childrens shrill voices. Deal with it. ('course that's not a problem for me either, since the court order...) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Would there be as much of the Political stuff on a CD?
Then again Live is all about getting the full flavor! |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | I'm glad I got to enjoy CSN&Y in their hey day, you know 4 Way Sreet etc. I despise rock acts that try to shove their political crap down my throat, at a concert. I hated it when Grahm Nash would tell us to save energy and save the whale, while he jetted around in his personal plan. He is a wuss. "Our house with two cats in the yard" is not rock. David Crosby: Hey man, been in any hotels lately with a pound of coke and a gun? Don't preach you crap to me. Other than that, Neil Young is a great talent. |
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Location: Scotland | Jesus titty-f**k*ng christ, you guys need to grow up.
It is the duty of every ARTIST to reflect the times and situations in which they live as a function of their ART. If you don't like it you need to change the colour of your spectacles to "rose" and go listen to your Carpenters albums. I'm sick and tired of the media and politicians preaching their crap. Without the alternative view of artists and other free thinkers, where's the balance?
I've alway thought Nash was a lucky guy, not especially talented but in the right place at the right time. Crosby may well be an idiot, a has-been and a junkie. So what? They're only musicians, they can't kill people with a song. Do you think JFK, Nixon, Bush Snr, Gdubbya, Clinton and every other Prez hasn't been closely aquainted with guns, drugs, corruption, and every other vice under the sun? What kind of power do they wield? .
Bush-bashing? I'd hope so.
Like it or not, most art has a political agenda, if it doesn't it's probably not art, and consequently pretty worthless |
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Location: SE Michigan | "young people speakin their mind, gettin so much resistance....from behind"
And for what it's worth, Bush needs to bashed, somebodie's got to do it. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | second that!
EDIT: Or Third... |
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Location: NJ | please keep the politics off the board.
This is your public service announcement for today.
(moody please take note) |
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Location: Scotland | I second that. If you go to see an artist (who have their own opinions, inteligence and agendas) and do not agree with their politics, don't bitch about it here |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Originally posted by Tommy M.:
Other than that, Neil Young is a great talent. So I guess you haven't heard "Living with War". I really liked it, I suggest you check it out. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Check out the youtube posting above re young. |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | please keep the politics off the board.
Al, exactly. Don't charge people to hear your rant. Play your music, what we paid for to hear. |
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | Please note: it's called the "Freedom of Speech" tour. That applies to them AND to you. CSN (and CSNY)have ALWAYS been political. They've always done political raps between songs, and have written and played some overtly political songs. That's part of the package when you go to see them. It's what they do; they've always believed that artists have a duty to come out for (or against) causes they believe in. Kinda reminds us old geezers what it used to be like back in the day, when we said what we thought, without worrying about the consequences.
They've also made some damned fine music and set a standard for harmony singing. Does the preaching get tiresome? Sometimes it can, but I think you get more music than rant per volume over the course of the night. They are an iconic American rock group, still kicking in their sunset years. This might be (probably is) their last tour, so enjoy. I wish they were coming this way. I'd see 'em in a heartbeat, ranting and all. |
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Location: SoCal | I didn't say anything....... |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I didn't say anything....... but you thought it.
please everyone don't make me close down this thread. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Well Fuckers
I havw Deja Vue thatb I bought whsn it came out.
I am about as conservative as they come, but
that was a revelation and s great accomplishemnt
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | I'm a big U2 fan as well as a big CSNY fan. Bono also has a habit of throwing a few rants into the show. I always figured that it's a good time to go for a piss. Leaving the "P" word out of it, I just wish that groups like CSNY would remember why people are going to their shows. They are there to hear music! For the prices that CSNY tickets are going for, I expect to hear the songs that everyone wants to hear, not Neil Young's latest solo album in it's entirety (and I love NY). For me, going to a concert is something that I like to do to forget about everything for a while and just enjoy the music. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I didn't say anything....... but you thought it. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I didn't say anything....... but you thought it.
that would be me. |
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Location: NJ | ". . CSN (and CSNY)have ALWAYS been political . ."
ExACTly. (ThankYou, Rick.)
Anybody that knows ANYTHING about these guys, goes to a show and thinks they're gonna be "apolitical" (especially in these times)is a f@cking idiot and has no right to complain.
Head's Up:
Don't go t'see Jackson Browne either. |
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Location: SoCal | Don't go t'see Jackson Browne either
...or Linda Ronstadt, or any number of performers who feel strongly about their politics.
There's nothing wrong when you know what you're getting when you go to a concert. But there are times when a performer is more interested in getting his/her political point of view across than in entertaining.
Last year, there was somebody out here who went on a political rant and people got up and walked out. The next day he was quoted in the paper asking why Orange County couldn't tolerate a little "political discussion"... he never gave a thought to the fact that he was the only person with a microphone, which caused the discussion to become a rant.
Al, please note that I didn't comment on politics, per se, at all..... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | .......or most any male Country performer... |
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Location: NJ | I am ready to shut this thread down. please move on. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Everyone's got a point of view (with the possible exception of Niel Diamond, who wants to grow up to be a W.A.S.P. Okay, he did.) and whatever they do or don't do it's gonna show.
But this place is normally about guitars and semi-music related stuff. (there is one chat site I visit that has a "Rants" forum where no one is required to be nice or proper but is fully warned before entering that it's not nice in here...and everyone is pretty nice in the rest of the forum Vallarta Scene )
That said, (and just under the wire perhaps ;) ) being the well balanced Canadian expat that he is, Niel Young has worked on Republican campaigns while feeling free to criticize absolutely anyone. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | So, let me get this streight.These (artists)cowards charge you $100 to see a music concert and then when they get you in your seat they want to spew there political views on you? I find that so cowardly because they get to throw there shit at you and you in the audience have no microphone to respond back..And some of you think thats "Freedom of Speech"? Just shut up and play your f@#%^ songs CSNY...Who cares what a bunch of dumbass burned out hippies think anyways.Just play the music and then go find your crack pipe and bottle of Jack Daniels.
And i pulled that off with no politics mentioned!! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Being entertained is not the same as being amused. A good artist will challenge your view of the world.
This may give you joy or, more often, great irritation. If you are greatly angered, it is perhaps your POV that is letting you down rather than the attack on it...
I say this as a decidedly 'c'onservative Libertarian who would, probably, be a reluctant Republican voter if I lived in the U.S. Who would gladly go enjoy a CSN&Y or Billy Bragg concert! |
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Location: SoCal | Sam, I think that I said the same thing, but with Al's direction and influence on me, I said it in a much more cowardly manner..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | It's just entertainment. They spew whatever the hell they think will get the crowd going. Babs does it, Chuncky Chix, Boner, they all do it. At the end of the day they take stock of just how good they've got it in this country and know which side of the aisle to thank for it. Dave |
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Location: Scotland | The problem here is not that artists made political statements, but that the statements they made opposed the veiws of the complainers. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The problem here is that Al asked nicely to end this topic... TWICE. Consider it ended. |
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