1969 1127-4 What Bracing Would it Be?
GaryB
Posted 2008-09-08 5:22 PM (#21609)
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Thanks. The Ovation site says A. But that doesn't seem right, to my limited knowledge.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-08 6:25 PM (#21610 - in reply to #21609)
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A-bracing didn't happen until the mid-70's. The 1127 had VT-8 bracing and changed to the A pattern in the late '70's
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-08 6:28 PM (#21611 - in reply to #21609)
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Real early 1127's, from 1969, had some sort of X bracing. Tony's got one of those.
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GaryB
Posted 2008-09-08 6:36 PM (#21612 - in reply to #21609)
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I checked my serial number against Tony's, and I think we're only a few numbers apart. I looked at his album, and his 1127 says A brace. Could it be?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-08 7:46 PM (#21613 - in reply to #21609)
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It's not A braced. I've had my hand inside his guitar. It's some sort of modified cross between VT bracing and X bracing.
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GaryB
Posted 2008-09-08 7:52 PM (#21614 - in reply to #21609)
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Yeah, I was just inside mine, I think you're right. Although I don't know enough about bracing to know what it was.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-09-08 8:41 PM (#21615 - in reply to #21609)
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I brought it to one of Moody's infamous NAMM parties...Kim looked at it and mumbled something I either didn't understand or ??

I haven't been able to match it with any of the diagrams. Below the soundhole, appears closer to an A, bracing on bass side of soundhole, no bracing on tenor side...so??

Maybe an "A-" bracing?

Sure plays better than a VT, makes you want to take it out on the back porch and do a little pickin'. My shiny DB is great but others say this is better.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-09 1:27 AM (#21616 - in reply to #21609)
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I remember seeing a chart on someone's site with a bunch of different bracings. Does anyone have the link to it?

I'd like to figure out what's in my 1117 Deluxe Balladeer
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-09 1:56 AM (#21617 - in reply to #21609)
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BRACING

But this is from 1976. Not sure about the earlier stuff.

Dave
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-09-09 2:00 AM (#21618 - in reply to #21609)
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naturally, out on Jerome's wonderful site:

BRACING
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-09 9:16 AM (#21619 - in reply to #21609)
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Ovation played with different configurations in the early years. My Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer has the X bracing, but it doesn't have the 3 small braces coming off one of the long braces into the belly of the guitar.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-09 6:57 PM (#21620 - in reply to #21609)
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My '68 Deluxe Balladeer is the same, it has the main cross brace and nothing else.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-09 9:57 PM (#21621 - in reply to #21609)
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My Glen Campbell is the same. Seems to have been common in the '68 timeframe.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-09 10:16 PM (#21622 - in reply to #21609)
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Sure seems to give them a huge sound.
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GaryB
Posted 2008-09-10 10:38 AM (#21623 - in reply to #21609)
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Man, am I confused. A state I'm very familiar with. John over at the mothership says it's either a modified X or a VT-8, and that he'd have to see it. My bracing brail ain't what it should be, because I don't know what the hell I'm feeling in there; but I can see a vertical brace coming down the bass side, so that kinda rules out a VT-8, no? Anyway, from what I've read around here, VT's lack bass, and this puppy has bass to spare for a mid sized bowl. Well that clears up nothing.
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GaryB
Posted 2008-09-10 10:51 AM (#21624 - in reply to #21609)
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The vertical brace is along the bass side of the sound hole.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-10 10:52 AM (#21625 - in reply to #21609)
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The first couple years of GC Artists had a type of X bracing pattern. They sounded freaking wonderful. Around 72 they switched to VT-8 and killed the thing.

Later the A bracing came along and that's what the GC Reissue 1627 has, and it's probably even better than the original X.

Dave

PS - Stick a make-up mirror in the guitar and you can easily see what kind of bracing pattern it has.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-10 10:56 AM (#21626 - in reply to #21609)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Stick a make-up mirror in the guitar and you can easily see what kind of bracing pattern it has.
Dave keeps his in his purse.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-09-10 10:59 AM (#21627 - in reply to #21609)
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In a velvet pouch cliff gave him as a keepsake.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-10 11:07 AM (#21628 - in reply to #21609)
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Monogrammed, of course . . .
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-10 11:18 AM (#21629 - in reply to #21609)
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No pouch. It's just a little hand mirror that fits in the guitar and you can see the underside of the soundboard. Dave
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-09-10 11:36 AM (#21630 - in reply to #21609)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Monogrammed, of course . . .
... with Al's initials!
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-10 11:48 AM (#21631 - in reply to #21609)
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. . . with the "Mr. Big" logo (of course).
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-10 12:06 PM (#21632 - in reply to #21609)
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No logo, just plain plastic. It cost about $2.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-10 12:10 PM (#21633 - in reply to #21609)
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with a little puff pad?
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schroeder
Posted 2008-09-10 12:10 PM (#21634 - in reply to #21609)
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:D
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GaryB
Posted 2008-09-10 12:19 PM (#21635 - in reply to #21609)
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I have to get one of these....I think.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-10 12:46 PM (#21636 - in reply to #21609)
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I got mine in at CVS drug store. The mirror part is about 3 inches diameter and the handle is about another 3 inches.
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dvd
Posted 2008-09-10 1:02 PM (#21637 - in reply to #21609)
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Dave's mirror?

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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-10 1:04 PM (#21638 - in reply to #21609)
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Way too gay. This is the one to have

Stewmac inspection mirror
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-10 1:44 PM (#21639 - in reply to #21609)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Way too gay. This is the one to have

Stewmac inspection mirror
Too gay for Witko?
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-10 2:28 PM (#21640 - in reply to #21609)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Way too gay. This is the one to have

Stewmac inspection mirror
That looked great till I read "When unfolded inside the guitar, it gives you a 7-1/2" x 12" flat viewing surface"

I don't do flat.

Hey Brooklyn, does it look at all like the pattern I showed on the 1117 thread I posted yesterday? Maybe you have a VT-6

I sure wish someone knew what those looked like.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-10 2:40 PM (#21641 - in reply to #21609)
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Christ!

THAT's a tidy "mark-up"!!!

7.5"x12" is about .625sq.ft.,

A 4'x8' sheet of .125" mirror plex. (32 sq.ft.) can be gotten for about $80.

Even if you cut it "fast&sloppy", a sheet will yield at LEAST 32 of these mirrors.

Not bad at all . . .

(I'm in the wrong "racket" . . . )
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GaryB
Posted 2008-09-10 2:52 PM (#21642 - in reply to #21609)
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does it look at all like the pattern I showed on the 1117 thread I posted yesterday? Maybe you have a VT-6

Damon, it has the braces over and above the sound hole, and a vertical brace on the bass side of the sound hole; so I'd say that it doesn't look like the VT-6. I'll get a mirror inside and report on the other braces. Gary
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