"Last Ovation Standing"
georgeshep
Posted 2008-09-03 11:21 AM (#22516)
Subject: "Last Ovation Standing"


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So, with production moving offshore and discontinuation of American Made Ovations, I picked up a 2771 LX at a firesale price from Sweetwater.

Well, it's a great great guitar.

Here's a song named "Last Ovation Standing" on which I used the guitar. Link should just start up your media player.

http://www.mixposure.com/play.php?mode=song_hifi&band_id=17&song_id...

From my MixPosure postings:
http://www.mixposure.com/George_Shepherd/music.php?p=7

Thanks for indulging!!!

George
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-03 11:35 AM (#22517 - in reply to #22516)
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Where the F@CK has been said that "production is moving offshore" and that "American-made Ovations are discontinued"???


HOW does this sh!t keep propagating???
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-03 11:36 AM (#22518 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by georgeshep:
So, with production moving offshore and discontinuation of American Made Ovations,

George
BULLSHIT! It amazes me how misinformation travels so much faster than "true" information.

No offense to you George. This false rumor pops up with regularity.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-09-03 11:37 AM (#22519 - in reply to #22516)
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Ever played 'The Gossip Game?' Messages are easily mangled in conversation.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-03 11:39 AM (#22520 - in reply to #22516)
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Oh yeah....Geroge, that is an EXCELLENT TUNE!

Maybe you will send something in for the next OFC CD.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2008-09-03 11:49 AM (#22521 - in reply to #22516)
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George - beautiful song!

Thanks!
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-09-03 12:09 PM (#22522 - in reply to #22516)
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Great song.

I gotta beleive it's the head-set phone jockeys at Musicians Friend & the like and the "dudes" who work the floor at Guitar Center that are the source of the bad information.

Although it seem like it falls on deaf ears when we carry on with our grand marketing ideas, I think Ovation and the new Fender executives have a public perception problem here and are not aware of it.
The sales force on the front lines are in serious need of some education.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-09-03 12:43 PM (#22523 - in reply to #22516)
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very nice song, george. thanks for sharing.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-09-03 1:10 PM (#22524 - in reply to #22516)
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Great Song there, (or musical construction :cool: )
Originally posted by cliff:
Where the F@CK has been said that "production is moving offshore" and that "American-made Ovations are discontinued"???
HOW does this sh!t keep propagating???
Every weaselly little salesperson who says...
"Y'know, They aren't gonna be making Ovations in the USA anymore... Yeah, Fender bought 'em and fired everybody and is shipping everything to China, so this is your last chance to get any of them... and this is the Last One in (name your city) That's why we marked it up from $599 to $999 which is still less than the MSRP... And the case is $129 but I can get it for ya' for $99." :mad:
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-03 1:19 PM (#22525 - in reply to #22516)
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On my last GC visit, I did another of what Woody calls an intervention. A guy was talking to the salesman about the GC178LX and I told him what a great deal it was. He started asking me a bunch of questions that the salesman hadn't or couldn't answer. They went from the real basic, like why the round back, to the difference between the OP Pro and OP30 preamps. I'll have to go back and see if he bought it. Forgot to tell him about this site.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-03 1:26 PM (#22526 - in reply to #22516)
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nice pluckin'.
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georgeshep
Posted 2008-09-03 2:01 PM (#22527 - in reply to #22516)
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Wow.......

Thanks for clearing that up. Man. I saw it several places. Sweetwater. Guitar Hanger. I heard the same thing about three times, so I believed it.

Well, I'm glad they're not moving offshore.

But, because I was misinformed, I DID pick up the 2771 LX for 600.00. Got a large bowl Ovation for 250.00 LESS than I paid for an 1771LX mid-size bowl THREE years ago.

And the top on this one's not warping like the top on the 1771LX.

So, I'm glad they're staying here, and I'm also glad several vendors seemed to be offloading them. I love this guitar!
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-03 2:04 PM (#22528 - in reply to #22516)
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check it out I bet the top already has a built in radius and is NOT warping


damn I need to be in another job
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Waskel
Posted 2008-09-03 9:52 PM (#22529 - in reply to #22516)
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Marketing?
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-09-03 9:55 PM (#22530 - in reply to #22516)
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Hit man?
Whack job?
Pizza delivery boy?
Lead guitar in a punk band that lives in cube van?

I'm leaning towards pushing a grocery cart around town and picking up crap myself. I'll need to trade all my gits for a MOB first, so no one will steal it while I'm cashing in my pop cans....
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-03 9:56 PM (#22531 - in reply to #22516)
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There may be a place open in Bloomfield for you Al.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-04 1:11 AM (#22532 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by georgeshep:
So, with production moving offshore and discontinuation of American Made Ovations, I picked up a 2771 LX at a firesale price from Sweetwater.
I don't know why you're jumping on George because he's not exactly "wrong", is he?. SOME production is being moved offshore, and SOME models will be discontinued as USA models and now made overseas - Balladeer, Elite-T and Std. Elite. Isn't that what we read? This was necessary to free up factory space to move Guild into the Ovation plant.

In line with this, I notice that the Ovation website has been altered to no longer divide itself into USA Ovation and Ovation. Now it's just one big happy mess with no reference to where anything is made.

Dave
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-09-04 2:12 AM (#22533 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
In line with this, I notice that the Ovation website has been altered to no longer divide itself into USA Ovation and Ovation. Now it's just one big happy mess with no reference to where anything is made.

Dave
Fender makes eighteen different kinds of Strats, and nobody knows where they are made until you look on the back of the headstock! :rolleyes:
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-04 2:37 AM (#22534 - in reply to #22516)
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Dave, with this being an election year are you running for some office we don't know about?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-04 8:38 AM (#22535 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Dave, with this being an election year are you running for some office we don't know about?
I don't run "for", I run "away".

I have no idea what you're talking about.
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-04 9:37 AM (#22536 - in reply to #22516)
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dave
you are wrong on this one.
the guy clearly stated "So, with production moving offshore and discontinuation of American Made Ovations"

this states ovations will no longer be made in the usa.

it is clearly mis information

get with the program

or at least read my posts

Cwk
I am not sure bloomfield wants me
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-09-04 9:45 AM (#22537 - in reply to #22516)
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Cwk
I am not sure bloomfield wants me
They do.
They just don't know it.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-04 1:06 PM (#22538 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Originally posted by stephent28:
Dave, with this being an election year are you running for some office we don't know about?
I don't run "for", I run "away".

I have no idea what you're talking about.
I was referring to your kissy kissy politically correct election year response instead of the proper response as supplied by Cliff and myself.

Then Mr. Big had to get involved and call you out.
Quit being nice.....I don't recognize you anymore!
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-04 2:04 PM (#22539 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by alpep:
dave
you are wrong on this one.
the guy clearly stated "So, with production moving offshore and discontinuation of American Made Ovations"
Al what I wrote was IF he said SOME production is moving off shore and SOME discontinuation of USA ovations he would have been correct.

I think you and I are both right, just saying different things. The point that was missed is that these moves are NOT happening for negatiuve reasons. They are the POSITIVE result of bringing an historic and well respected guitar manufacuring (Guild) to New Hartford. Yes it's a change, but it's not like New Hartford is shutting their doors and laying off the skilled people that work there.

As ambassedors of all things Ovation, we should be positively spinning the great news that Ovation is building today some of the finest guitars in their recent history, doing fantastic custom orders, and as always their support and service is second to none. Now factor in Guild which may bring some new talents, manufacturing technology and opportunity for cross breeding and I think you have a great potential in good old New Hartford.

Dave
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-04 2:05 PM (#22540 - in reply to #22516)
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Jesus, T28 is right ....
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-04 2:14 PM (#22541 - in reply to #22516)
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Which one's right? . . . Jesus or T28?? . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-04 2:18 PM (#22542 - in reply to #22516)
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Jesus told me what to say so we both are.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-04 2:29 PM (#22543 - in reply to #22516)
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don't even THINK about asking for a "donation" . . .
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Jack FFR1846
Posted 2008-09-04 2:39 PM (#22544 - in reply to #22516)
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I'm out of the loop, I guess. I didn't know Guild would be built in New Hartford.

I don't own a Fender, but now 3 of my guitars builders are (Ovation, Guild and Jackson) and two of them used to be made by a Leo Fender company (Musicman) bought by Ernie Ball.

Hmmmm....will the New Hartford people handle Guild warantee issues? I believe mine has a lifetime warantee and the pup switch isn't working anymore...... Not much of a drive for me..... :D

jack
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-09-04 2:46 PM (#22545 - in reply to #22516)
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No Jack... You're three for three...
Fender owns Jackson too!
Quick Read...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-05 12:45 AM (#22546 - in reply to #22516)
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I think guild service will still be done in snatchville.
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georgeshep
Posted 2008-09-05 4:30 PM (#22547 - in reply to #22516)
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I guess I was wrong about the production moving off shore. I was surprised myself, but I saw it stated at least three separate places.

Shoulda checked here, first.

Anyway, I don't really care why three independent vendors had SLASHED the price on the 2771LX. I got it, it's great, it's full bodied, and I paid 250.00 LESS than the midsize 1771LX that ended up with a warped top, rendering it unplayable above the 10th fret.

Thanks all for posting, and also thanks for listening and indulging.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-09-05 5:15 PM (#22548 - in reply to #22516)
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I am Grateful for the sale! :D

I am almost ashamed to admit this,
But I paid less for both of my contour T's than I paid for the other two, Used! :mad:
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FlySig
Posted 2008-09-05 9:38 PM (#22549 - in reply to #22516)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I think guild service will still be done in snatchville.
Factory trip to Snatchville. Sounds like a plan.
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