Future of American made Ovations
Englishplayer
Posted 2008-08-24 9:48 PM (#24521)
Subject: Future of American made Ovations


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A few weeks back I visited my local guitar center. A few year back I could find an Adamas or two, and plenty of American made models. This time, Not a single American made model. Anyone care to guess about the future of American made models? Are they producing them in much quantity now? If they do, is the future all contour models? (I still haven't played one)
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cliff
Posted 2008-08-24 10:38 PM (#24522 - in reply to #24521)
Subject: Re: Future of American made Ovations


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". . A few weeks back I visited my local guitar center . ."

. . that was your FIRST mistake.
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BT717
Posted 2008-08-25 6:13 AM (#24523 - in reply to #24521)
Subject: Re: Future of American made Ovations


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Living in Ct less then a Hour from the factory you would think you could find USA made Ovations on display in Music stores. The Big three in the area G.C. Falcetti's and Daddy's have nothing but Used USA "O"s It's CRAZY RIDICULOUS!!!!! and down right UnAmerican! BTW Most of the small shops are out of business. :(
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Steve
Posted 2008-08-25 9:57 AM (#24524 - in reply to #24521)
Subject: Re: Future of American made Ovations


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Our local Taylor dealer told me that Taylor increased their reqiured minimum order for all their dealers and put many small shops out of business.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-25 10:42 AM (#24525 - in reply to #24521)
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I've never seen an Adamas of any kind at a Guitar Center. Every once in a great while there'll be a USA standard Elite or Balladeer, but that's rare.
I haven't seen a VXT since the initial push either.

I'm curious about where most of the USA production goes.
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-25 11:01 AM (#24526 - in reply to #24521)
Subject: Re: Future of American made Ovations



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they're out there and will continue to be I would imagine. They are working hard to add Guild to the factory, they aren't going to flush Ovation to do it I wouldn't think.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-08-25 11:15 AM (#24527 - in reply to #24521)
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This conversation comes up often. I'll pass along what was told to me once by a decent sized non-GC store when I asked how come he never has any Made in USA O's. "I sell them all the time, several every month. They don't usually make it out of the back-room onto the wall. They are either ordered, or on someone's wish list." Made a lot of sense.

I have also heard that in general people tend to "buy" Ovations rather than "shop" for them. By this I mean, while folks will go into a music shop looking for an Acoustic guitar and try a bunch out... many people who actually buy Ovation guitars, already know what they want. They played someone elses, or they already own one or whatever. They are not shopping. eBay, GC, LostArtVintage.com, are they places they buy from.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-08-25 11:22 AM (#24528 - in reply to #24521)
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Originally posted by Steve:
Our local Taylor dealer told me that Taylor increased their reqiured minimum order for all their dealers and put many small shops out of business.
Talking with the guy at Apple Music, and he said that he had a fourteen Ovation contract he had to fill. (That included Celebrity's) But at the time we talked, he had ordered more! He was surprised at the "sudden" enthusiasm for Ovations.
When I first met him, he said that they didn't sell many Ovations.... Then we talked again and he told me about the order.
I told him, "You aren't gonna sell Many Ovations if you don't Have ANY Ovations! :rolleyes:

Places like GC are going for the Walmart approach... There are some awfully pretty laminate Celebrity's out there. And they figure that most of their clientele can't tell the difference because most of their salespeople don't know the difference.
And you can get a helluva mark-up on a Pretty Plywood Celebrity.

edit-- I was thinking that Miles.
My thought was "they don't have any USO's cuz they get Bought!
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-25 11:22 AM (#24529 - in reply to #24521)
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Makes sense Miles, still it would be nice if they stocked more for the walls too.
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an4340
Posted 2008-08-25 11:24 AM (#24530 - in reply to #24521)
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Actually, when I was down in NY, NY the local GC had adamii.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-25 11:25 AM (#24531 - in reply to #24521)
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My AD-II came out of the backroom like that.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-08-25 11:50 AM (#24532 - in reply to #24521)
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I have to believe Al has as good a supply of Adamas models on hand as any single location retail store in the world.
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-25 12:09 PM (#24533 - in reply to #24521)
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That he does
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alpep
Posted 2008-08-25 12:36 PM (#24534 - in reply to #24521)
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just a quick count and I believe I have 30 Adamas guitars available give or take a couple including 08 collectors
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Damon67
Posted 2008-08-25 1:53 PM (#24535 - in reply to #24521)
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my god. I'd be like a kid in a candy store.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-08-25 2:52 PM (#24536 - in reply to #24521)
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When I go to Elmwood Pk, NJ to visit family I always take my nephews to the GC in Fairlawn. They do have 6-8 Celebs, but they also have at least that many US-made O's. They always had a GC Baladeer special (say goodbye to them, I guess), always a couple of Std. Elites, a Baladeer and a Legend.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-08-25 2:53 PM (#24537 - in reply to #24521)
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Never bought anything there, though.
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cliff
Posted 2008-08-25 2:56 PM (#24538 - in reply to #24521)
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There's a CG in FairLawn??? . . . .
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