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Location: Rochester, NY | Dear folks,
I'm a freshman here, and to be honest I have never been participated to fan-Clubs or any kind of societies.It's my second day, but I've already learned a lot of interesting stuff.
I'am owning 12 string Ovation Legend 1756 in natural finish, which was made in 1986.The deep bowl bodies are amazing.So now I'm willing to buy another 12 string deep bowl, it could be 1758 Elite model,Legend Elite 1736 or any other deep bowl Elite Series, preferably in black finish.
So, if somebody wants to sell it for a reasonable price, please let me know, I will consider any offer.
Or I really appreciate any help with the information about specialized places where I can buy one. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Welcome aboard, Arthur, from another Upstater. You've come to the right place as guys here are always moving great guitars back and forth. Good luck in your search and, despite what most of us believe at this point in the year, Spring IS coming... |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | You MAY want to take a look at the Adamas 12 string on this board. They are by far the best playing and sounding 12 strings available, and definitely worth the little extra cost... and oh yeah, did I mention it's black? (: |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Hello Arthur, and welcome!
You may want to give people here a price range that fits your budget. The definition of "reasonable price" can vary widely on this board. (Or any other fan board for that matter.) ;) |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Welcome Arthur.
+1 on the Adamas but the 1758's are great 12 strings as well...best wishes... |
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Location: Rochester, NY | Thank you, Patch that's a good point.I'm willing to spend from 500 - 800 $ for this guitar. Of course, Adamas 12 is gorgeous without a doubt, but its a little bit out of my budget.
What do u guys think about buying the guitar that needs a serious repair? I found 12 string Elite 1758 on http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Ovation-1758-12... The headstock is cracked and missing it's corner. See the pictures below
 <br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation</span></td><td align='right' class='smalltext' nowrap></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign='top' height='150' class='messagemiddle'><span class='smalltext'><br/><br/><img width='60' alt='' border='0' src='/megabbs/profile/get-photo.asp?memberid=4631&type=profile&rnd=451'><br/><b>Joined:</b><br>May 2006<br/>Posts: 4239<br/><br/>Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent</span></td><td valign='top' class='messagemiddle'>If they want that kind of money for a guitar with a crack in the headstock, I am POSITIVE you can do better with a little patience. <br/>
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I don't know of any with a black finish hanging around right now, but I'll keep an eye out for you as well. <br/>
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I have a very rare Elite 12 I might consider selling, but it is also out of your price range. That's why I made my suggestion. <br/>
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Best of luck. You'll track one down eventually. Your price range is reasonable for what you are looking for IMHO.</td></tr><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td nowrap></td><td align='right'> <a href='#top'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Top of the page' border='0'></a> <a href='#bottom'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Bottom of the page' border='0'></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan='2' class='messagecellspacer'> </td></tr><tr><td class='messageheader'><a href='/megabbs/view-profile.asp?action=view&uid=6210'>CanterburyStrings</a><br/><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' height='1' width='120' alt=''></td><td class='messageheader' nowrap width='100%'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td><a name='M277458'></a><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt=''> <span class='smalltext'><b>Posted</b> 2011-02-15 7:25 PM (#277458 - in reply to #277451) <br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation</span></td><td align='right' class='smalltext' nowrap></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign='top' height='150' class='messagemiddle'><span class='smalltext'><br/><br/><b>Joined:</b><br>March 2008<br/>Posts: 2683<br/><br/>Location: Hot Springs, S.D.</span></td><td valign='top' class='messagemiddle'>PM sent. <b></b>(Arthur, if you go to your profile, you will see that I have sent you a message.<b></b>)</td></tr><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td nowrap></td><td align='right'> <a href='#top'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Top of the page' border='0'></a> <a href='#bottom'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Bottom of the page' border='0'></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan='2' class='messagecellspacer'> </td></tr><tr><td class='messageheader'><a href='/megabbs/view-profile.asp?action=view&uid=8524'>Arthur_Nigmatulin</a><br/><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' height='1' width='120' alt=''></td><td class='messageheader' nowrap width='100%'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td><a name='M277459'></a><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt=''> <span class='smalltext'><b>Posted</b> 2011-02-15 7:45 PM (#277459 - in reply to #277451) <br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation</span></td><td align='right' class='smalltext' nowrap></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign='top' height='150' class='messagemiddle'><span class='smalltext'><br/><br/><b>Joined:</b><br>February 2011<br/>Posts: 23<br/><br/>Location: Rochester, NY</span></td><td valign='top' class='messagemiddle'>Patch, I really appreciate it.Thanks, for keeping an eye out for me<b></b>) Except the cracked headstock, this 1758 has lots of blemishes and scratches. Overall, the condition is 7/10. <br/>
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I was thinking about the color, and found out that these guitars had also white purl finish, while on Ovation official web-site nothing is mentioned about that. Is it a custom color? <br/>
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I received your message, Alison and let you know in PM.</td></tr><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td nowrap></td><td align='right'> <a href='#top'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Top of the page' border='0'></a> <a href='#bottom'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Bottom of the page' border='0'></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan='2' class='messagecellspacer'> </td></tr><tr><td class='messageheader'><a href='/megabbs/view-profile.asp?action=view&uid=3236'>MusicMishka</a><br/><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' height='1' width='120' alt=''></td><td class='messageheader' nowrap width='100%'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td><a name='M277460'></a><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt=''> <span class='smalltext'><b>Posted</b> 2011-02-16 10:47 AM (#277460 - in reply to #277451) <br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation</span></td><td align='right' class='smalltext' nowrap></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign='top' height='150' class='messagemiddle'><span class='smalltext'><br/><br/><b>Joined:</b><br>March 2005<br/>Posts: 5567<br/><br/>Location: Blue Ridge Mountains</span></td><td valign='top' class='messagemiddle'>It wasn't a custom color...I owned several white one's over the years and there have been quite a few surfacing in the past few years...keep looking: one will turn up.</td></tr><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td nowrap></td><td align='right'> <a href='#top'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Top of the page' border='0'></a> <a href='#bottom'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Bottom of the page' border='0'></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan='2' class='messagecellspacer'> </td></tr><tr><td class='messageheader'><a href='/megabbs/view-profile.asp?action=view&uid=8524'>Arthur_Nigmatulin</a><br/><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' height='1' width='120' alt=''></td><td class='messageheader' nowrap width='100%'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td><a name='M277461'></a><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt=''> <span class='smalltext'><b>Posted</b> 2011-02-16 10:58 AM (#277461 - in reply to #277451) <br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation</span></td><td align='right' class='smalltext' nowrap></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign='top' height='150' class='messagemiddle'><span class='smalltext'><br/><br/><b>Joined:</b><br>February 2011<br/>Posts: 23<br/><br/>Location: Rochester, NY</span></td><td valign='top' class='messagemiddle'>Oh,ok I see.. Thanks for info MusicMike. <br/>
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So official site of O guitars is not so reliable sometimes in terms of accuracy of information. I found one on craigslist in VA recently, but post is not available anymore.the seller probably deleted the post right after he sold the guitar <b></b>)</td></tr><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td nowrap></td><td align='right'> <a href='#top'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Top of the page' border='0'></a> <a href='#bottom'><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt='Bottom of the page' border='0'></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan='2' class='messagecellspacer'> </td></tr><tr><td class='messageheader'><a href='/megabbs/view-profile.asp?action=view&uid=5115'>G8r</a><br/><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' height='1' width='120' alt=''></td><td class='messageheader' nowrap width='100%'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td><a name='M277462'></a><img src='/megabbs/images/spacer.gif' alt=''> <span class='smalltext'><b>Posted</b> 2011-02-16 11:05 AM (#277462 - in reply to #277451) <br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation</span></td><td align='right' class='smalltext' nowrap></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign='top' height='150' class='messagemiddle'><span class='smalltext'><br/><br/><b>Joined:</b><br>November 2006<br/>Posts: 3969<br/><br/></span></td><td valign='top' class='messagemiddle'>The most accurate information on Ovation and Adamas guitars is right here, and on <a href=) Jerome\'s tribute site . There's tons of information, both useful and obscure, in the archives (searchable via the link at the top of every page on this site) The reference section here also has a lot of useful information about model numbers, years of production, etc. |
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Location: Rochester, NY | Wow, I like this site. The best of the best. Everything you need in one place!!!!
I did some search and found another deal on http://www.mygear.com/items/view/33486/false/1993+OVATION+ELITE+175...
There is a crack in the wood very close to the bridge? What do u think about it? |
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| Looks like that particular one is sold, unless I'm misreading the ad (up top, next to the price).
Don't immediately disqualify one that has a "crack". Many times such a "crack" is only in the finish, which doesn't affect the guitar structurally, only aesthetically. There's a technique describe in the FAQ to fill in/hide such finish checks.
I have a similar guitar, 1538, the immediate precursor to these ( here it is in action ). Stonking great guitar, loud, balanced, easy action, comfortable neck profile, and just about the most stable 12-string guitar made, as are all Ovations. The only better, and by that I mean stability and gig-worthiness, IMO is an Adamas 12-string.
These 1758s come up not too infrequently, and $600-700 is a fair price for one in very good to excellent condition. Keep looking, you'll find one soon, and good luck. |
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Location: Rochester, NY | I gave them a call today and in fact it's not sold, they have a problem with the site.It's still available, but they also explained that the crack is not in finish, it's in the wood.
The guitar was left in the cold for a long time and as result this crack... Very difficult to neglect this fact)
Thanks G8r, I'm doing my best in the search...
I have never seen 12 string Ovation Legend Elite 1736? Does it exist? Or its only the part of history on www.ovationguitars.com? |
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| I think the 1736 were only in production for 1 year (1984), and it's called a Legend Elite because they were still kicking around what to name these brand-new "wood-top Adamas". The differences between the 1736 and the 1758 (introduced in 1985) are that the 1758 has a resin-impregnated walnut fingerboard (like Adamas guitars) versus rosewood on the 1736; the 1758 had AA grade spruce tops, while the 1736 were just described as spruce (no grade given); and the 1758 had gold tuning machines versus chrome on the 1736.
Given a choice between the 2, I'd opt for the 1758, especially if the prices were comparable. |
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Location: Rochester, NY | G8r, looks like you know how to convince people. In this case, 1758 is absolutely a better choice)Thanks
I noticed that early models of O have blue sticker inside, while others that were manufactured after 1988 have white sticker with New-Hartford Ovation plant on it.
Personally, my Legend has a blue one and it was made in 1986... |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | This one has a "crack down the seam". May or may not be finish-only. It might be worth keeping track of depending on what the reserve is.
Natural 1758 on eBay |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Under body style it says "Hollow" (: ...looks like a shallow bowl. I don't think I would by a shallow bowl 12 unless I was always going to play plugged in. |
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| Unless the sellers mis-identified the model, or it's a custom one-off, then it is, by definition as a 1758, a deep bowl.
And with only a single, face-on picture, how can you tell what the bowl depth might be? The case, if original, would indicate a deep bowl, too. Cases for SSBs have the sky-blue plush lining. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I guess the only way to know for sure would be to ask. Definitely need a lot more pictures. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Here's a custom legend 12 in the rochester,MN Craigslist, if you can find someone nearby that could check it out for you. They're really nice models, IF you can find one that's been well cared for.
Black Custom Legend 12 String |
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Location: Vernon CT | Arthur,
Why are you even "Thinking", Waiting, You know Where the 12 string you are looking for is.
Grab it before it's to late! ;) It's a no brainer and you won't be disappointed!! |
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Location: Rochester, NY | I apologize,I was out of the city this weekend and didn't have full access to participate in the discussion.
Thanks for good postings on e-bay. Concerning Natural 1758. I've already contacted the seller.They explained me that the guitar was left in the cold for a while, as a result the crack is in the wood but not in the finish.I have few pictures of the crack that they provided to me. I will upload them to my profile page on ovationfanclub.ning.com. Also if you click on more pictures at the bottom of the posting on e-bay, it automatically redirects you to the seller's official web-site, where there are few pictures of the guitar http://www.vintagecityguitars.com/guitars/view/1854
To Alison, I keep in mind that. But the problem is that I'm waiting for a response from another member who has black Elite 1758. Because initially this is what I exactly want. |
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Location: Rochester, NY | Good news!!! I ordered 12 string black Ovation Elite 1758 from used gear at Guitar Center. Plus I got a 15% discount for President's Day!!!
According to the pictures it's in a really good shape... But the guitar doesn't come with a case, previous owner decided to keep it... Guitar Center guys promised me to pack the guitar very carefully, but still I'm afraid that it could be damaged during the shipping ;(
I also opened a new topic in FOR SALE section. If somebody has one, please let me know... |
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WTB 12 string Elite 1758, Legend Elite 1736 or any deep bowl Elite Series Ovation