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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | OK....I tired to keep them in the family but since either the interest in nil or the timing is bad, these two mint/near mint beauties will be heading to ebay this weekend.
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Location: Bluffton, SC | A couple o' beauties there, Stephen. Good luck with the sales.
And, from all of us, thanks for painting over that wallpaper too. :D |
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| Is the red Adamas shallow or super-shallow?
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Hello Stephen,
What is the top frequency number of the 1681 please ?
Thank you.
PS : Steve, in the gallery, it is said the 1881 is a super shallow bowl (SSB). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dude, Adamas II's don't have frequency numbers.
Steve, I am not really sure if there is a difference between a SB and a SSB. I know this Adamas has better balls than some of my mid and deep bowl models. Just a huge sound unplugged that sounds unbelievable plugged in.
One of our bowl experts, maybe can chime in???? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by stephent28:
One of our bowl experts, maybe can chime in???? I had to read that twice. ;) I really like that red Adamas. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | In order from most shallow to deepest:
Supershallow bowl
Artist Bowl (used to be called Shallow Bowl)
Mid-Depth
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Original style Adamas versions are 1/4 inch deeper than non-Adamas versions due to a different top attachment. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Originally posted by stephent28:
Dude, Adamas II's don't have frequency numbers.
:eek:
I'm quite surprise because on my 1581, there's a frequency number (wich is 89)... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well, maybe I am wrong. When I get back in town on Saturday, I will double check inside the bowl. |
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Location: closely held secret | I looked in my bowl for the frequency number, but all I found was "Kohler". |
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Location: closely held secret | Ah, no, mine is the 3gpf model. It's made in the US. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Originally posted by stephent28:
Well, maybe I am wrong. When I get back in town on Saturday, I will double check inside the bowl. Thank's Stephen.
On my Adamas 2, it is hand written inside the bowl, on the Adamas sticker, after the model number (which is also hand written).
It gives : "1581-8 89". |
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Location: Germany | This Adamas 2 has also a frequency number on its label.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I could never buy a guitar from someone who does not cut off the excess string at the tuners. I looks terrible on such a nice guitar. Like a beautiful girl with long nose hairs. Dave |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Never understood the excess string thing. Are they figuring that if something happens to the guitar, they can remove the strings and use them on their next guitar :eek:
Now that you mention it, that could be a real moneysaver |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | I agree with you !
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And I was quite surprise to see Kaki's guitar with strings not cut !
But in fact she plays with them to make some strange noises !
Beautiful girl with long strings !
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See Kaki\'s guitar in this post |
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Location: NJ | LOL I never cut the ends of my strings
saw it on hallabaloo when the animals first hit the usa. never cut them since. |
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| ...I remember it was considered a small acoustic advantage to leave the strings uncut, more string vibration would facilitate better acoustics, etc... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Steve:
...I remember it was considered a small acoustic advantage to leave the strings uncut, more string vibration would facilitate better acoustics, etc... Please tell me you're joking. |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | hahahahahahaha!!!!
I saw an old interview with BB Kind when i was a kid. He said he never cut the XS strings, more than that he winds the entire length of the string around the tuner for two reasons: 1- It doesn't go out of tune as much as the cut strings and is way EZier to put back in tune in a snap.
2- BB King said that when he breaks a string he can just use the XS string to re-string it with the same string.
I remember this cause i was thinking at the time, i'm gonna do the same. But quit it after a few sets of strings. I found out that what BB King said was true, but also that winding the entire string is very very painful. Hahahahaha!!!!!!
But seeing how many legends of guitar playing don't cut their strings, i'm thinking that it might not be the smartest thing to cut them.
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Location: Keller, TX | My 1681-5, serial number 4088 that I got from Dave, does NOT have a frequency number. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I used to not cut the excess string length when I was in high school....thought it was COOL-LOOKING. NOW....I cut 'em off.......
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | If you change your strings with any regularity, I vote for short. Also, fits back into the case easier. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | There is a school of thought that not clipping the strings eliminates the possibility of the outer wound wire on the string slipping in relation to the core wire which, theoretically, degrades the sound.
Personally, I'm not convinced and I'm not very cool so I clip mine.
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Sorry guys to come back to the initial question :
Stephen, did you check on your Adamas if there's a frequency number written on it ?
Thank's, |
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| StandingO, ...Nope that was the attitude, as much strinng as possible for more vibration...go figure...but now i basically just back-wrap over the string on the post to prevent slipping and snip the excess...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Hey Dude, sorry for the delay in answering you.
Inside is only the model number and serial number...no frequency number.
I will say again, that this SSB is by far the most impressive sounding shallow bowl I have ever played and it sounds better than some of the mid/deep bowls that I have owned.
Obviously I would love to keep it within the OFC family but it will go to eBay if I don't sell to anyone here within the next few days. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Hello Stephen,
Thank you for the answer.
I'm little annoyed because as I already own a 1581, I'd like to have two guitars with different tones... And it is not easy for me to jump in a plane to test yours !! |
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Location: NJ | Is there by any chance some Original Documentation somewhere that came with this guitar that might be referenced?? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | You mean a 1581 deep bowl...like the reissue?
Does yours have dual holes or only on the bass side.
I own the 1581 reissue and it sounds nothing like the 1881 (at least not to my ears). The 1881 has a brighter, crisper sound than the deeper darker sounds of the 1581. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | It is a 1581 deep bowl, but not the reissue.
It has two epaulets.
I wish I could get the reissue model because everybody agree on the fantastic bass those guitars have (and as I could have read in a previous post, you too !).
And I have read in previous posts that the 1581 with two epaulets (like mine) sounds very closed to the 1681. That's why I asked you about the frequency number.
Thank's, |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Just buster the treble side holes. Dave |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Thank's Dave, I'll try it ! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dude, were you interested in my Blue 1681 or my Red 1881?
This thread was about the red 1881 but it sounds like you might have been interested in the 1681. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Some pepole like the epaulettes on both sides because, while it is a little less bassy, the treble comes across more fully. Especially when you amplify. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Originally posted by stephent28:
Dude, were you interested in my Blue 1681 or my Red 1881?
This thread was about the red 1881 but it sounds like you might have been interested in the 1681. Stephen,
I was interested in your 1681 (the blue one with deep bowl).
I've just checked your first post in this thread, and you were talking about both !
Sorry if I misunderstood. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Ahhhhh...so I was. tis I who confused things...my apoligies. Still no frequency number on the 1681.
Yes, the 1681 and the 1581 reissue sound similiar but not identical. The 1581 with the single side epalutes has a bassier sound than the 1681. The 1681 has a slightly more balanced sound.
My guess is that a double epaluet 1581 and the 1681 would sound almost the same or very very similar.
They both play about the same....which is exceptional.
You should think about the 1881....especially if you play live and plugged in. It is a killer player. |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | OK ! We've been a little confused ! No problem !
You understand now why I was annoying you with my frequency question ! :)
Your 1881 should certainly be a killer guitar, but I don't like SSB's guitars. I can't hold them because I play sat on a chair.
It is a beautiful guitar (I love red colors), but not for me !
I wish you good luck for the continuation ! |
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Location: Avondale, AZ | What are you asking for each? |
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Location: Tokyo | sorry, I mistook the code.. here : 1978 VINTAGE OVATION ADAMAS,
http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-VINTAGE-OVATION-ADAMAS-SIX-STRING-LOWER-RE... |
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Location: closely held secret | Spider, if you hit the "Full Reply Form" button you'll get a screen with instant ubb commands - such as URL. That way it's coded and doesn't stretch out across the screen. Also for italics, bold, images, whatever. |
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Location: Tokyo | oh, sorry for my apology and thanx Waskel. Btw, Ovation J said they can not repeir the the adamas like such unique painting of early model. They only can fix it like a Reissue model. Btw, there is no subject of the the adamas in OFC? |
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Location: Parrish, FL | Spider,
Yes there was a thread about this guitar, but I cannot find it this morning. Maybe someone else will have more luck. It was within the last month.
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Location: Tokyo | BluesSailor ,
Am I at this late day for to talk this one? ... some one know who can fix this guitar like original? you said No? I guess so too... |
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