Ebay Buyers Beware!!
bvince
Posted 2005-10-02 5:56 PM (#333873)
Subject: Ebay Buyers Beware!!



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I don't know if any OFC members have bid on this guitar (item 7353990517) or not, but the seller has grossly mis-stated the condition of the instrument. He states there is "some minor wear around the epaulets". If you take a look at the close-ups of the epaulets, you'll see that the top has been badly broken and badly re-glued. He makes no mention of this in his narrative.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-10-03 1:18 AM (#333874 - in reply to #333873)
Subject: Re: Ebay Buyers Beware!!


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Yeah, he also mentions in the emailed questions that it can probably be fixed. We all know that they cannot. Ovation doesn't repair Adamas tops, right? Maybe someone else will try, but my guess is that they will screw it up.
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BluesSailor
Posted 2005-10-03 3:12 AM (#333875 - in reply to #333873)
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I don't think those are cracks. I think it is the finish that has blistered and is ready to come off. My guess is that it sat on a stand in direct sunlight, causing the paint to blister.

Carbon fibre is very tough stuff. To have cracked the top would have destroyed the entire guitar. I work w/ FRG laminates everyday. I'm even toying w/ the idea of laying up my own top just to see if I can and what it would sound like. Need a sacificial guitar to make that a reality. (Where are the remains of teh dropped kicked Clebrity mascot?? :D )

My money says that those cracks are in the finish paint.

I still don't see the attaction for this guitar. It should be near pristine to have bids at this level. The one last week went for just over $2000 and it was in much better condition, near perfect. $1700 for something that can't be made right (w/o doubling your $, if at all), is insane.

Blues
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bvince
Posted 2005-10-03 11:36 AM (#333876 - in reply to #333873)
Subject: Re: Ebay Buyers Beware!!



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If you look closely you can also see a bunch of goober oozing out from around just about every part of the epaulet edges (indicating a bad glue job). I haven't seen that much slop on anything I own.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-10-03 1:28 PM (#333877 - in reply to #333873)
Subject: Re: Ebay Buyers Beware!!



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"you can also see a bunch of goober oozing out from around just about every part"

Have you seen my soldering before?
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-10-04 9:34 AM (#333878 - in reply to #333873)
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Current bid = $1955 ???!!??? Hopefully that is someone in CT because that guitar is gonna have to spend some quality time at the repair facility.

Edit: nevermind. Reserve not met. At $2k. That guy is crazy.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-10-04 10:25 AM (#333879 - in reply to #333873)
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I've changed my mind about this auction.

Ya gotta give this guy credit for posting those pictures, claiming "Excellent Original Condition" with only "slight wear" and invoking Gruhn's name.

He's got stones...and it looks like it is going to sell...if that ain't his alter ego at high bid.
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bvince
Posted 2005-10-04 8:27 PM (#333880 - in reply to #333873)
Subject: Re: Ebay Buyers Beware!!



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Hey, with all the questions being posted on the ad, anybody who buys this will have no excuses when he gets it. I e-mailed him and asked him about the glue oozing out around the epaulets (which you can see when you use the "closer view" option. Amazingly, he denies it. Well who knows ... maybe I'm just seeing things in my old age, or perhaps all that crap is oozing out from my eyelids instead.
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BluesSailor
Posted 2005-10-04 8:39 PM (#333881 - in reply to #333873)
Subject: Re: Ebay Buyers Beware!!


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bvince,

I think the ooze is actually the paint starting to blister around the epaulets. Could be glue from a repair job if the wooden epualets started to lift. Hard to say.

I can't understand why this auction is going so high considering the conditon of this guitar. The red Adamas I went for $2050 and was in A+ condition. Hard to figure people out sometimes.

Blues
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geka
Posted 2005-10-06 11:15 PM (#333882 - in reply to #333873)
Subject: Re: Ebay Buyers Beware!!


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The question is, is he going to ship the adamas in the shitty soft case of his?

Everything looks wrong on the pictures. Why would anyone buy it?
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