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Location: Keller, TX | Is it true? Did Paul and Linda McCartney design the 30 anniversary custom legend?
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Location: boulder | It is what I understand. Not the outright design, but were partly the motivation for putting it out, the way it is, think bling. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Interesting, first time I've ever heard that. I knew she ordered the guitars but a hand in the scrolled design for bridge and TRC? I don't think so.....
OK, I've read the ebay post now. The Brits have a word for this. Bollocks! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ....this from the same guy who says the 84 is the best Collectors...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by BIG O:
cwk2,before you offer your sarcasm here, you should research before you speak. BIG O,
You are so right. CWK2 has long been a poser. You'd think he'd work'd there.
I would, however, suggest you delve a little deeper into past threads on related topics |
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Location: SoCal | Uh, BigO, do you know who cwkII is?
Don't anybody tell him. Let's see how much of his foot he can get in his mouth..... |
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Location: Parrish, FL | I love trivia.
First question:
Recalling the famous #47 Adamas guitar, who is touted to have said it was his favorite?
Second question:
From the answer of question #1, what would be the initials of his namesake?
Only first answers count, no guessing.
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | This is good,best topic in a while :D :D |
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Location: SoCal | Thought you guys might enjoy an email exchange from Big O.
His first email
"I don't give a shit who he is because his father probably was'nt informed about the deal. I'm sure the Kamans did'nt call all the shots around that factory, he was engineer and owner. That's why corporations have business minds in the mix to PR and sign legal stuff. I'm a McCartney fan from way back when and have read enough to know the difference."
My reply:
"Well, hell, then you know it all. I'm impressed. But not much. Bill grew up at that factory and was deeply involved from the early 70's until the late 90's. Not the corporate office. The factory. But you go on knowing it all. You're fun to read. Makes for a good laugh."
His last email:
"I'm sure that you're good friends with him as well so you keep sticking it out.
The fact may be he was so involved around there, that does'nt make him
knowledgable of all that went down. He can probably tell us how to build a
guitar but I know for a fact that he does'nt know all that went down around the
business. So you keep gunning for him and laughing at me and showing your
ignorance. Think about it, why is it that he does'nt know about the scrolled
bridge and its design? He sure as hell did'nt have answer. As far as sticking a
foot in ones mouth, you know where you can cram yours."
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Location: NJ | ". . I'm wondering why McCartney would even care that much about an ovation guitar, he's probably played thousands of other guitars and he has his own guitars custom made no doubt..."
McCartney readily admits that he's not much of a "GearHead", and for the most part (other than his Hofner bass) will pretty much use whatever's around . . . |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Let me get this streight,so my options are to believe
#1 the guy who was hands on with everything at Ovation,who was there and lived it.Or
#2 A guy who is a big McCartney fan and has read a bunch of stuff..
HMM!! thats a tough one...let me think....................................................................................................OK im going with option #1 |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by samova:
Let me get this streight,so my options are to believe
#1 the guy who was hands on with everything at Ovation,who was there and lived it.Or
#2 A guy who is a big McCartney fan and has read a bunch of stuff..
HMM!! thats a tough one...let me think....................................................................................................OK im going with option #1 You just believe whatever your heart desires, Sam. Bet you think you could commission building your own guitar with your own luthier too... ;) |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Hey, i resemble that remark ;) .Look for the new SAMADA model to be introduced in jan. of 07..I was inspired by my guitar hero and also want to give the "gift of music" to millions..
I also have another theory here.CWK2 leaves Ovation and "retires" .Soon after a guy comes on TV selling this line of guitars called Estaban.Has anyone ever seen Bill and Estaban at the same place at the same time???One wonders who's behind the dark glasses and hat??? conspiracy? I think not.. |
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Location: NJ | nice hat. |
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Location: SoCal | "So was Linda actually involved with the design at some point?"
Working side by side with Glen's mom.....
I read it somewhere so it must be true... |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Cliff,this is where you run to your computer and fire up the old photo shop and prove my theory!! |
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Location: Keller, TX | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Working side by side with Glen's mom.....
I read it somewhere so it must be true... I read Britney Spears was instrumental in the design of the multi-hole top. :eek: |
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Now THAT was funny! |
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Location: SoCal | You know, I sent you a nice email trying to sooth your feathers (to which you never responded). And it turns out that you're just an ass. I'm done trying with you.
click. |
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Location: Parrish, FL | Re-read the 3rd post of this thread. There's your answer.
I guess that's settled.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Ok Sam, I can't resist:
"What's SAMADA?"
Hey PaulM - What model guitars did Glen's Mom help put together when she was indentured at the Factory? |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Its ADAMAS backwards.. :D ;)
the samada model
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Location: Parrish, FL | Hey guy's, it's late, at least out east. How about giving it a rest. This isn't going anywhere. Best let it drop. :rolleyes:
Good night.
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | nice hat Kinda' matches the boots! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Sorry I didn't get back sooner, had to go to church this evening, played my Collings dreadnaught on the mountain top (OK have at that one too, I know I should have used the 84! What was I thinking?)
If I had ya'll wouldn't have had such a good time though.
As I recall it, but I could be wrong.
1. Linda never came to the factory (she might have on the week I went to shcool that year)
2. She did order two guitars for Paul, or maybe it was just one and then added the other later(a 6 and 12)
3. The scroll design was Rickard's
4. I don't think that what Paul got was any different from regular production at the time.
5. Paul is not a guitar guy, never has been so thousands have not passed into his hands. He just doesn't care about the hardware, it's what it does that's important to him.
In a very nice email to me Big O says that the company should have better info on their web pages about the history. I agree.
Now I'm off to bed. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | And that's the way it was :cool: |
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Location: SoCal | Good night Bill... sleep tight... |
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Location: SoCal | With inflation, it's now my $.05......
BigO, you can try and squash me. Lord knows, in my line of work a number have tried...
But if you just mean give me a bad time, well, hell man, how could I respect anybody who didn't give me shit? Even my wife and kids do that....
Noah's right. Time to get some sleep.
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Location: SoCal | Heck, made for an interesting Sunday afternoon and evening...
Ovation and Adamas has such a wonderful history of instruments and performers that is not reflected in the "timeline".
As this started concerning the 30 Anniv CL, this guitar is the finest blending of the three decades and present - a Custom Legend that respects the past yet is the ultimate Custom Legend. The factory did a great job. Thank you. |
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Location: NJ | I'd suspect that Ovation "glances over" the whole Paul/CL-thing because there was an agreement that Ovation could use Paul's "image" with the guitar, but couldn't (legally) use him as actual "endorsee" (do I have that right, Bill?).
I've been tempted to chime-in on how much of a total ASS someone's been during this whole exchange, but due to the fact that he's gone and conveniently deleted his initial insipid posts, I suspect he already knows it . . . |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Although I've always been a PITA who's record of unintentional damage to my own reputation has occasionally reached epic proportion, I did rather enjoy watching someone else do it.
Can we do it again?? PLEASE...??? :D |
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(PS...you really need to get out of NY and come visit the mountains!) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Big O, don't leave.......
Everyone gets trashed eventually.
One our our newest members Nick really got blasted because of an article he wrote, and now he is a beloved member of the OFC flock! |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I would agree, BO. Stay, meet the members and THEN determine if it's not the place for you. If you're looking to discuss guitars in general and specifically Ovations from a lot of pretty darn smart people, you will find no better place than here. But be prepared to witness incessant razzing no matter who you are. It's all meant to be in good fun. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | WOW, that'll be the last time I go away for a long weekend. Looks like I missed some fun on the 'ol OFC board. Please don't tell me Moody had his gasoline penis out again.
Early on I used to make an ass out of myself around here and take some shit. The only difference some 3000 and something times later is that I still do it but people don't care anymore. Life is good.
I hated the CL when it came out in '74. I thought it was an insult to the Legend. Then when Mac played one I was really disappointed because real Beatles don't play plastic guitars. Then I bought an '83 CL and fell in love with it because it was so beautiful, Now I own an '05 CLLXCB and it's one of the best damn sounding guitars I own. Go figure.
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Location: closely held secret | So you're a slow learner, Dave. You're in good company. :D
BIGo, don't give up so easily. This is a very forgiving bunch. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Most of the regulars are PITAs, at least some of the time. Some are all of the time. It just takes awhile to figure it out, but in the meantime there is a lot of information here. Sometimes too much.
Most of us get slapped when we ask a simple question when a decent search would have brought up a recent thread. You just can't take it too seriously. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Sam, I don't have a hast like that. I don't want a hat like that. Do they let you wear hats like that in Atlanta? They don't in Florida. Have you decided to come to the Sluthead reunion yet? We can each get hats like that and Cliff will take pictures and photoshop in the llamas....
Big O, Perhaps my responce was a bit strong that started this whole mess. That's the problem with the written word, they're just so black and white(lol) Anyway, don't go away. If you're going to go aweay anyway, don't go away mad. Peace. |
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Location: NJ | . . . for that matter . . . I could just PhotoShop-in the hats . . . . ;)
y'GOTTA come up, Sam!!! |
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Location: Germany | Short interrupt of the discussion. Enjoy the pic!
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Nice pic !
Designed for him... or designed for it :D |
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Location: Germany | As far as I can see, Macca's CL has no scrolled bridge and TRC design.
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Location: NJ | . . . might not be HIS guitar in the pic, but a "tour" guitar . . . . |
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Location: boulder | the early 1619 I bought from Jeff had an inlaid mother of pearl TRC as well as MOP in bridge also. (and rossette was pearl, not abalone), plus logo is gold decal, peace mike |
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