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Location: Maryland, USA | I know there are many on E-bay, and they aren't rare, but I was hoping if someone could give me a good price for a Gibson Les Paul standard.
It doesn't have to be mint condition, pick scratches are fine. I'd like a sunburst of some kind, cherry or firetop would be good.
Trying to find one in the $1000 range.
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio | Steve, have you considered an Orville by Gibson. They are great and in many ways better than some of the Gibsons. The Orville by Gibson (not just the regular Orvilles) have Gibson USA pickups. There is a nice one currently on ebay:
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Location: Orlando, Florida | That's a nice one, but did you see the shipping costs! But then again, it is coming in from Tokyo.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Unless you have your heart set on owning a "Gibson" you might want to try a Fernanedes Ravelle. I've seen them new for less than 600. The one I tried was great! Or you might want to try a Godin Exit 22. Resale value wouldn't be as good, but you're not storing it, you're playing it. I saw a les paul in the musician's friend catalog for 859(?) Just plain mahogany, no fancy paint job (which is more to my taste anyway) If you want something from the Gibson line, try a plain les paul special, that'll be less than 750 new. Ah so many guitars, so little time .... |
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Location: Maryland, USA | Are the Orville's higher end than Epiphones but not as expensive as a Gibson?
I've also seen some Gibson Les Paul Studio's go on Ebay for around $500. Has anyone played one of those? If so, how do they play in terms of the standard?
I haven't seen an Orville before (I only thought Gibson made Gibsons and Epiphones), so thanks for the information. |
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio | The Orvilles are same quality as the Epiphone Elitist. They were actually made in the same factory in Japan that makes the Epiphone Elitist. |
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Location: Maryland, USA | Than I don't think I want an Orville...but thanks for the suggestion.
Any comments on the Gibson Les Paul Studio's? |
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio | I've heard good things about them. Recently watched a DVD of Gary Moore live and he was playing some pretty mean blues on a LP Studio. Guitartrader.com has on advertised as used, but my experience with them is that they are as good as new.
http://www.guitartrader.com/itempg.icl?orderidentifier=ID1122499193... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I think a Studio is just a less dressy version. I was told that the name came from the idea that in the studio you didn't need to have a guitar that looked great, but sounded the same. The local guitar store just sold one in excellent shape for $700. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | get a Hamer instead, better guitar. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Gotta agree....get a Hamer. More guitar for the money! |
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Location: Maryland, USA | I figured you guys would say that...I have nothing against Hamers, but I really had my eyes set on a Gibson.
As JeffW said it once:
The problem with the young is that; well, they're young.
Thanks for the Studio input. |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Stephen:
Are you familiar with Heritage guitars? The company operates out of the former Gibson factory in Kalamazoo and is owned and operated by former Gibson craftsmen. Quality is supposed to be better than Gibson. The Les Paul model is the H140. There are lots of them on eBay, like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Heritage-Les-Paul-Style-Guitar-USED-NR-Click-ME... |
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Location: Maryland, USA | I've been looking, and unfortunately, they don't seem much cheaper than a Les Paul Studio. But I guess they are an afffordable version of the Gibson les Paul Standard. |
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Location: Maryland, USA | I've looked into Hamer guitars like some of you guys said, and more guitar for the money my ass.
I'm looking at the prices (Hamer USA) on Ebay and the suggested Retail Price, and those things are more expensive than full blown Gibson Les Pauls!
Now, if one of you guys could get me a Hamer for a low price, that might be a little different, but the Hamer USA's I'm seeing aren't cheap. |
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Location: NJ | It's more money for a MUCH better guitar.
Hamer started out years ago as a ServiceDepot for Gibson. Basically, they "put right" all of the FactoryF@ckUps that Gibson put out.
Now they build BETTER guitars "RightTheFirstTime".
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio | Here is another option. My brother has 2 Agiles and says the quality is fantastic. This is his highest end model. Take a look at the features for the money. They are made by Samick.
http://www.rondomusic.net/product402.html |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Latest musicians friend catalog has all the Gibson models on sale at a pretty good price. Plus the ever popular 12 months same as cash or 30 bucks (roughly) a month payment plan.
Might be an option. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | [Ignorance alert!]
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Location: NJ | Y'ShouldaBeenThere ;) |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Ahh...always nice to be invited to the party. :) |
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Location: closely held secret | Hamer puts out three (3!!!) guitars per day. You would not believe the care and attention to detail that goes into these things.
I have nothing against Gibsons, but these really are a step above. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | You can have Guitar Center order a guitar for you and if you don't like, they take it back. You might want to try the Hamer Sunburst SATQ. It's made overseas and a lot cheaper than the american made models. Some people have them here, and they seem to really like them. My gut says that you have heart set on a Gibson Les Paul Studio, so I say, if you have the money, just go for it! Play it to hell and get that Gibson out of your system. When it comes to guitars, there's no other way to avoid temptation but to give in. I never liked the Gibson tuners though, you'll want to replace them eventually. The rest of it'll be just fine. |
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Location: Waurika OK | Stephen,
Check out Al's site LostArt/Vintage Instruments. He has a Hamer Special for $750. If I remember correctly, these are made from a single slab of Mahogany. Check it out.
After recently posting about wanting a USA Hamer, I went ahead and bought one of the offshore Hamers, a goldtop with P90's. It was on eBay, with a finish flaw. StandingOvation had good things to say about a SATQ he had recently bought so I gave it a try. Got it for $202.50. If I had $750 would have bought Al's. Anyway, I have owned a Mex. strat, a Cali. strat, a Nashville tele., admittedly not top of the line Fenders, but this Hamer has them all beat. I can only imagine how good a USA Hamer would be. (If only I could play!) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I also think I remember Cruster mentioning in a recent post that he was going to sell his Hamer. |
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Location: Maryland, USA | I'll look into it...but the price was killing me on the Les Paul, and it appears its going to kill me on the Hamers ;) |
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Location: closely held secret | Everyone dies. But not everyone dies with a classy geetar in their hands. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | SP,
Let us know what you get. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Having a nice guitar won't make you a better player, but having a nice guitar will make you want to play better. Sometimes that's what it takes to get there.
I have improved to mediocre on accoustics, but I still stink on electrics, so the statement that I just made is still in the theory stage for me. |
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Location: SoCal | Stephen P,
Have you looked at the Les Paul Standard Lite ?
I picked mine up in 2004 for $900 BIN on eBay. It is in my gallery under posts.
I still see them up for auction periodically. You can still grab one in excellent condition or better for a grand.
It is a double cut and doesn't have a bound neck or a flame top though.
It is very comfortable due to the lighter weight. |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | I'm really not into Gibsons, but check out this Les Paul at Musician's Friend website. It seems to be a nice deal at $850 bucks, plus it's a Gibson, it's made in the USA and you can buy it brand spankin' new.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=141/g=home/search/detail/bas... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Another alternative is a Gibson L6-S.
Awesome guitar from the 70's that was originally meant to replace the Les Paul. I use to own 3 of them.
Good buys still on ebay for under $750. Just make sure it is all original with the 5 way chicken switch. Also stay away from the deluxe where the strings go through the body. |
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Location: london | a little suggestion... for $400-$700 you could bet a gibson marauder. they are awsome guitars completly overlooked by just about everyone. similar to ovation electrics. adam jones (tool) used it on aenima recordings and uses a les paul custom live.
well worth looking into. a 70's collectible.. for the price of ?? what good guitar van you get for 400 bucks seriously.
also a yamaha sg 2000 is great little ass kicker. (do you know them?) |
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Location: Midland, MI | I've always thought a Gibson Nighthawk or Blueshawk would be fun to play with. Cheaper than an LP, at any rate. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | Gibson has started to make the Blueshawk again.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=141/g=home/search/detail/bas...
They can produce a lot of different sounds. And they weigh around seven pounds. |
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Location: Midland, MI | I picked up a Digitech GNX4 the other night. That, combined with the Steinberger, is incredible fun. Who needs a Les Paul? ;) |
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Location: Maryland, USA | I've thought about it, and I'd like to thank you for all the help, but I've decided not to get any substitutes for my craving - I need the real thing.
It may cost more, but I'm going to get a Gibson Les Paul Standard.
It may take awhile, but when I get one I'll take lots of pictures and tell you all how it is.
Thanks again,
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Location: Midland, MI | I think that's your best bet, Steve. If you have your heart set on an LP Std., anything else will feel like a compromise. Then the 'buyers remorse' will set in. Stick to your guns...when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. |
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Location: SoCal | "Zorro"? |
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Location: Midland, MI | I thought it was David Carradine. :) |
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| sooo.... Grasshopper what did we learn today?
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Location: Midland, MI | I thought that was:
Hey, JoJO, whadda you say?
We all want to know what you learned today!
My three year old watches this insipid Disney k-rap called 'JoJos Circus' sometimes...maybe once or twice a week. The stupid theme song keeps popping into my head. It's annoying (and it's Disney, so it's evil).
I learned that the GNX4 is freaking cray-zee, bay-bee! And that Steven really wants an LP Standard. :) |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | Still looking for a LP?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1987-Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-Lite-RARE-White-Nic... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | How about $700 for a black LP Studio? Couple blocks down the street from me. It's my understanding that the Studio is just a Standard with out the dress, but my knowledge of Gibsons (or any other guitar) is suspect. |
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Location: Maryland, USA | Studio's DO sound different than a Standard Les Paul. I really don't like them after have played some.
But that Studio Vintage Les Paul made of all mahogony has a GREAT sound that I played.
I like it better than the LP Standard. I fell in love with it. But (look on the general page) I decided to make my own Les Paul style guitar, with everything I want.
But if anyone else is looking, just try that all Mahogony LP Studio - It is FANTASTIC. |
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Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by cruster:
I picked up a Digitech GNX4 the other night. That, combined with the Steinberger, is incredible fun. Who needs a Les Paul? ;) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
well, these guys do...
jimmy page, joe perry, alex lifeson, randy rhoads, duane allman, eric clapton, jeff beck, me, les paul, you, the edge...
shall i continue? |
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