2003 1858 Elite 12 String for Sale
Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-18 8:10 AM (#335565)
Subject: 2003 1858 Elite 12 String for Sale


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I can't believe I'm doing this. But a financial crisis dictates that I must sell my 1858 Elite 12 String. I got her new in August of 2003. Ovation put a mid-depth Bowl on it and a 8T Transparent Blue Finish. Only cost me $1200. With this sale I will no longer own a guitar or an Ovation. Pics are in my gallery.A few ofc members saw and played this guitar during the 2004 OFC Factory tour and jam. She's in good shape, the neck is straight and true. I really hate to do it but she's got to go. And she needs to go pretty quick.
$875.00 shipped.I'll close now in tears
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-18 8:32 AM (#335566 - in reply to #335565)
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Sorry for the crisis Steve. We all go through something at one time or another. You will survive with good friends and family.

Best of luck with the sale and hopefully a quick recovery.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-18 9:02 AM (#335567 - in reply to #335565)
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Thanks Stephen. I looked at every possible avenue to try to avoid doing this. But it seems it's just icing on the cake. I may very well have to take a second job as well.all of this has just sprung up from family medical expenses. we need to get a handle on this thing now before we find ourselves drowning in more debt.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-07-18 9:13 AM (#335568 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve, I know you waited for a guitar like that for quite a while. Sorry to hear you have to sell it. Better days are ahead, however.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-18 9:15 AM (#335569 - in reply to #335565)
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Paul,
just knowing you'll say a prayer or two brings comforting thoughts.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-07-18 9:49 AM (#335570 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve, I can't presume to know how you feel, but a year ago I was in the same spot, for the same reason. It feels like a hole of which you just can't get out. Actually, I've been there twice for that same reason. The first time was 11 years ago. I sold a sports car for almost no money because I believed that I needed what little I could get. Looking back, I realize that I never should have sold the car because the money wasn't enough to make a difference.

Last year, I thought about selling guitars to pay medical bills, but decided that in the short run, it wouldn't make that much of a dent. Instead, I worked more and harder, and we got the bills paid off. And I still have the guitars.

Get a second job and keep the guitar. The joy the music will bring you will comfort you and your family. And it a couple of years, you'll wonder why you ever thought of selling it.

All our prayers are with you......
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-18 9:55 AM (#335571 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve,
I totally understand the medical crisis.

Nine years ago my daughter was run over by a drunk driver while she was crossing the street on foot. We were called to the hospital and told that as next of kin we needed to sign a release so they could operate. She was 19 at the time, not living at home and had no insurance. What they did not tell me was that I was also signing patient responsibility forms. My wife and I were held responsible for over 700,000 in medical bills. Really screwed up my early retirement plans but what price do you put on a family members health!

Refinanced the house, cashed in all my retirement savings, used both kids college funds and paid off the debt.....but early retirement plans went out the window. Went from steak and champagne to red beans and rice with water!

Things will get better. Possessions are merely possessions and can be replaced. Good health is much more precious and important. Prayers are with you.
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Tucson Stevens
Posted 2005-07-18 11:57 AM (#335572 - in reply to #335565)
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I really hate when I hear stories such as these. As a Canadian we are never faced with those decisions because of our universal health care program. Of course our taxes are higher than in the US but when you need medical help it is reassuring to know that the balance of your life doesn't get upset.
Best Wishes
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-18 12:08 PM (#335573 - in reply to #335565)
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You're not alone, Tuscon, and welcome aboard.

Steve - more prayers and recovery wishes are headed your way. Hang tough, man.

And T28, sorry to hear your story as well. I hope your daughter recovered from her injuries.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-18 2:16 PM (#335574 - in reply to #335565)
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Thanks for the nice words one and all.
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Designzilla
Posted 2005-07-18 2:18 PM (#335575 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve, Good luck. My family and I will keep you and yours in our prayers. With faith things always get better eventually.
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Strummin12
Posted 2005-07-18 2:24 PM (#335576 - in reply to #335565)
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wow...how devastating Steve. I know how much you love this guitar and know you must be in a really rough spot to have made the decision you have. I hope things work out. Moody sounds like he's got a good plan, maybe you can try alternate means to raise the cash.

You and your family are in my prayers. hang in.
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MrDano
Posted 2005-07-18 3:03 PM (#335577 - in reply to #335565)
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Hang tough Steve, like so many here - you and your family will be included in my family's prayers.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-18 4:02 PM (#335578 - in reply to #335565)
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Once again thank you for all the kind thoughts.
It is much appreciated.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-07-18 4:21 PM (#335579 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve,

Like the others I want to send my best wishes but not my checkbook. Put the guitar in your closet and do what you must to get through this season. Sometimes things need to seem impossible so that we have to ask for answers from above. If you do end up selling and end up without a guitar for a while don't be afraid to ask for a loaner.

Dave's got so many he won't notice if one is missing! ;)
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-18 4:35 PM (#335580 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve;

Sorry t'hear about your troubles. My heart goes out to you.
I heartily agree, that at all costs, you try to keep your guitar. That being said, if the situation develops to where you have no other option but to LetItGo, perhaps I can furnish you with a "loaner" :



Ultra 1515D

Bought it (used) for gigs, but pickup/preamp are "touchy". Relegated it to a beach/boat guitar when I got my Legend12 for gigs. I discovered that a black guitar isn't optimal for beaches OR boats. I now have a lighter, more compact Pacemaker12 for that purpose, so the Ultra hangs idle most of the time. If things get too bad and yer stuck "guitar-less", lemme know and we'll work something out till you're back on your feet again . . . .
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-18 4:43 PM (#335581 - in reply to #335565)
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Thanks Cliff, Very nice of you to offer. I'll let you know.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-07-18 6:30 PM (#335582 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve:

My prayers are with you.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-07-19 6:36 AM (#335583 - in reply to #335565)
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I am comforted by the thought of Cliff steering that boat with his feet through a crowded harbor while deep in a tune on his guitar, aren't you? :eek:
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-19 7:26 AM (#335584 - in reply to #335565)
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When you're bigger (and have more insurance) you have "Right of Way" thru the harbour
- "Rule of the Sea" #7


(besides, it wasn't my boat) :cool:
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-19 8:12 AM (#335585 - in reply to #335565)
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Guess that explains it then.The boat was probably anchored though! :rolleyes:
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-19 9:16 AM (#335586 - in reply to #335565)
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. . . in about five and a half feet of water.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-20 8:07 AM (#335587 - in reply to #335565)
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bump
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-21 3:45 PM (#335588 - in reply to #335565)
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And yet another shameless bump!
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-22 2:19 PM (#335589 - in reply to #335565)
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She's gone(for now). i'll get the chance to buy her back later. Didn't get what I was hoping for, but it will help. I also have two different interviews lined up for 2nd jobs. I'll keep everyone posted. No guitar..I'm having withdrawl already.
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-22 2:29 PM (#335590 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve;

The Ultra12's here whenever you want it . . .
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-22 3:40 PM (#335591 - in reply to #335565)
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Cliff I've sent you an email.
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-22 3:49 PM (#335592 - in reply to #335565)
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Cliff - you never heard this here but you're a good man.

Steve - continued best wishes out to you.
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-22 4:09 PM (#335593 - in reply to #335565)
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. . . I do what I can . .
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schroeder
Posted 2005-07-22 4:59 PM (#335594 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve - I'm devastated to read your news - you have all of my good wishes and thoughts and Lady S sends her best wishes as well.
My current predicament means I've seen 2 doctors and 3 specialists, had I don't know how many X-rays, a CT scan and quite large surgery (although nowhere near as big as it might have been ) and am now lined up for 6 weeks of radiotherapy and chemotherapy. All at a cost of nothing.
No cheap political points here - but you guys have to understand that medical care is the very least a civilized country should offer its citizens. Your lives should not be ruined through illness - whatever my problems are, money just doesn't enter into it. I wish I was close enough to send you a guitar.
I feel terrible for you. It just shouldn't happen.
Cliff - you're a hero.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-22 5:07 PM (#335595 - in reply to #335565)
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Thanks Schroeder,
you are very kind.believe me, What my family is going through is tough, but in my eyes and heart not anywhere near what you are going through.I too wish finances didn't have to enter the equation.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2005-07-24 7:13 PM (#335596 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve...check your email. John <>{
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cliff
Posted 2005-08-04 2:43 PM (#335597 - in reply to #335565)
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Steve;
I just went out lunchtime and got some new strings for the Ultra. I'll try to get it restrung over the weekend (got a gig Sat nite). Next, I just gotta find a good, sturdy shipping box and a safe, cheap mode of trans . . .

Do me a favor and e-mail your mailing address to:

adamas54@aol.com
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-08-04 3:19 PM (#335598 - in reply to #335565)
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Cliff you've got mail! Thanks Bro.
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an4340
Posted 2005-08-04 3:23 PM (#335599 - in reply to #335565)
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Oh Man, I just read this thread. I'm going thru the same thing now, but on a much smaller scale. It really burns. All I can say is hang in there, and it'll come out all right.
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cruster
Posted 2005-08-04 8:09 PM (#335600 - in reply to #335565)
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I used to hang out on another board where all the 'regulars' were really cool. When one of the members was having a spot of (serious) trouble, most everyone would kick in $5, $10, $20, whatever they could spare just so said member wouldn't have to 'get rid of the last one.' It was a really, really incredible thing in this day and age. The best thing was, it was charitable, without being charity. I think Al will remember what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, the place went sideways (not really downhill) and I don't check in there. Haven't seen that kind of thing in a long time. Shame.

Just thinking out loud.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-08-04 8:18 PM (#335601 - in reply to #335565)
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I have seen a couple of times when OFC'ers have come together...this is a good group.
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cruster
Posted 2005-08-04 9:06 PM (#335602 - in reply to #335565)
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No argument from me, Tony. This *is* a good group. I just got a bit bummed out that Steve had gotten to the point of 'letting the last one go.' Especially considering the (many) blessings I enjoy.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-08-05 8:49 AM (#335603 - in reply to #335565)
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I am really touched from all the encouragement and nice words that have been passed along from mebers of the board. While I did have to let the last one go. There have been kind words, a phone call from one of the members here who is a minister and emails to boot. Thnks so much one and all.It really does help knowing that I belong to a Internet community of Caring people. Keep the Family in your prayers as we continue to Climb The Mountain.
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