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Location: atlanta | I'm looking to buy an Adamas 1587 or similar deep-bowl cutaway. |
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Location: SoCal | Congrats and good luck. Are you asking if anybody here is selling? |
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Location: atlanta | My daughter, Kaki King, just lost her 1587 in a Brooklyn burglary. She's a young pro, and got her chops mostly on the 1587. Check her out at:
http://www.rosebudus.com/king/index.html
That's the 1587 in the b&w pic.
So, yes I'm in the market for a legal one. Are there later Adamas models like the 1587? The deep bowl is part of her technique/sound (lots of alternate tunings).
Thanks.
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Location: atlanta | MSB, thanks for the sentiment. Actually, I think eventually she may well become known to the folks at Ovation. They don't know anything about her yet, and I wouldn't expect them to--after all she's only 23. |
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Location: SoCal | Pop:
You should send Ovation what ever music she has recorded as well as photos. They might have an interest. It's also been rumored that they take a look at this webpage every now and then.
Also, if you want to find an older Adamas for your daughter, go to Al's webpage. His business, Vintage Instruments has several. |
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| If Al’s the business man I think he is he may figure a way to get the girl the guitar she needs and then get Ovation to, at least consider, picking up the tab.
I just downloaded some of her MP3’s at http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/1412/1412605.html
Her dad said she used a 1587 on all the cuts.
With her left hand over the top style, Ovation needs this girl playing an Adamas more than she needs an Adamas to play!
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Location: SoCal | Good luck on your thoughts of Al!
I haven't listened to her yet, but the description of her playing style sounds like Preston Reed. |
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that statement is correct. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Abbreviated...
"Al's da man" |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | There used to be a thing called the "Key Man" (so to speak). It was a way to treat unknowns and up and commers as endorsees if they were deemed to be "of value and influential" to Ovation sales. Use that term when talking to someone "at the company" |
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Location: atlanta | I want to thank each of you for your thoughtful suggestions. I think you are very nice people. I only joined the fan club yesterday, and everyone's prompt response was a bit unexpected, but believe me, very much appreciated.
Kaki's Dad
(David King a/k/a popcritic)
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Pop. I sure hope your daughter finds her guitar. I had a dream once my 1687 model Adamas was stolen. I really woke up in a sweat. I don't know what I would do if something happened to my old guitar. Geez, I don't even want to think about it. |
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Location: NJ | HEY POP
if you were a really good daddy the kid would be playing a new guitar by now..... |
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Location: SoCal | Man Al, you can be mean sometimes. |
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Location: atlanta | Ovation to the rescue!
David Lindley contacted Adrian Legg about Kaki's loss, and Adrian got in touch with someone at Ovation. The company immediately agreed to provide her with a suitable temporary replacement guitar as a professional courtesy. She'll be using the guitar this weekend at her gigs at the Mercury Lounge in NYC.
http://www.mercuryloungenyc.com/
I'll post again when Kaki decides on a permanent replacement. Thanks again to all of you for your encouragement, and generous thanks to a wonderful company for coming to her rescue.
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Location: SoCal | Hey Pop:
Take some pics this weekend of your daughter and the guitar and post them. |
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Location: NJ | Kaki sounds like someone who should definitely be used in Ovation's ads and web page.
Anything's gotta be better than GoatBoy with the chain-link fence in his face!
I wish I didn't have a gig this weekend.
I'd like to go to the Mercury and check her out. |
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Location: SoCal | Somebody at Ovation should go see Kaki perform. This would be an opportunity to build a strong working relationship with a performer from the get go.
Goat Boy? I love it! |
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Location: NJ | dude, lookit his eyes! |
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Location: atlanta | Paul, I just put a couple of earlier pictures of Kaki and her guitar in the Beta Member's Gallery. |
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Location: SoCal | Pop, it's easy to see that Kaki is a musician who is playing the music she feels (unlike some of us who are concentrating on the next chord change --- ok, me).
This is the type of person Ovation needs to be seeking out and contacting for endorsements.
Wonderful pics. |
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Location: NJ | Hey can adrian get me a guitar too???????? |
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| If Ovation can’t send someone over to see her play they could invite her over to the factory and take her out to lunch………before someone else does. |
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| I'm a bit lost here. David said he wanted to buy an Adamas 1587 or similar one. Now everything seems fine when Ovation agrees to get his daughter a guitar? Is Ovation getting her a 1587? If not, a newer model like 1597 or W597?
If Kiki could go to expensive, private University like NYU ($40,000+/year cost), it seems strange that she or her dad could afford a decent Ovation like Legend (could be had for $650-700 through mail order). If she is good, she could do wonders even with a Korean's made Ovation.
If David really wanted to buy an old Adamas, Al has quite a lot for sale. Al was right, if David were a good dad, ... On second thought, I think David is a good dad.
Ovation will receive thousands of requests for guitars from now on :-) |
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Location: NJ | Lighten up!
If the kid's good enough for both David Lindley and Adrian Legg to vouch for her, she's obviously no slacker!!
Besides, with the money that Ovation's NOT spending on their's and Adamas' webpage, even GIVING an Adamas to someone who's giving their product some exposure on a professional level in a prominent NYC venue would be money well spent/given away! They need whatever exposure they can GET on the US/Adamas models, and establishing a relationship with a potentially up and coming artist is a wise investment!
Has anybody noticed that BonPhony's Richie Sambuca is NOT playing O's anymore? I recently read in an article where Gibson ". . .persued me and offered me a really GREAT deal! . ."
You can probably see the new RS Signature Model acoustic debuted when they lip-synch this year's SuperBowl!
Go get 'em, Kaki!!!
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Location: atlanta | Sunny, I appreciate your kind remark about me. Parents always appreciate a little positive feedback, mainly because it's so seldom sent our way!
Let me try to address the questions that you raised. First of all, Kaki is an adult person (23), with a manager, a record label, and booking agency. So, from the get-go, I'm really not in the loop as far as her career is concerned. That's her business, and that's as it should be. True enough, she and I are friends, but she only occasionally consults me about career moves, etc. However, the loss of a magnificent guitar (I gave it to her when she was still in high school), of necessity brought me into the picture.
What Ovation is doing for her this weekend by furnishing a "loaner" instrument is by no means a long-term fix for the problem. The bottom line is--she really needs a deep bowl cutaway to fully express her technique. You'll just have to hear her CD or go see her live to understand what I mean.
What was that great Joni Mitchell line? "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." Well, both Kaki and I thought that her guitar was a 1587. I am indebted to Mike Bross who correctly identified it as an Adamas II 1581-7. Either way, you are completely correct in suggesting that Al be consulted. She intends to contact him as well as other vendors of vintage instruments (not to mention private owners, e-bay, NYC shops, etc.).
What I haven't mentioned before now is that she can probably go for quite a long time on the college graduation present I gave her last year. In 1994, I bought a new Taylor 710, intending that it be my "lifetime guitar". Six months later, I developed a form of rheumatoid arthritis, and my playing days were over. Eight years ago, Kaki was 15 years old, and already demonstrated skill with both electric and acoustic guitars. So I decided to keep the Taylor, and offer to give it to her when and if she graduated from college (any college).
I transferred possession and legal ownership to her in October 2001. She actually used it on her DIY CD--although most of it was on the Adamas. Fortunately, the Taylor was somewhere else when her flat in Brooklyn was burglarized. Certainly her preference is Adamas for recording and performing, but having the Taylor will give her the luxury of taking her time and really shopping around for something that exactly fits her needs.
Well I apologize for saying a whole lot more than I intended to when I started dictating this reply (because of the arthritis, I use voice recognition software). Speaking of voice recognition, I highly recommend it to all of you who may be prone to repetitive stress injury, carpal tunnel syndrome, tendonitis, and many other ailments guitarists may face over the course of a lifetime. These keyboards and mice are slowly killing us!
Finally, I thank you one and all for your informed judgments and insights on the subject matter of the "lost guitar".
Happy Holidays to all of you and your families.
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Location: SoCal | That would be Al on this board. Look for one of his posts and send him an email. |
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Location: Tokyo | Thanx, moody, cllif and AL. |
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Location: atlanta | Many of you have expressed an interest in how the problem of Kaki's stolen guitar turned out. Well, let me tell you how GREAT the Ovation Company really is. They have made a replacement for her, and she is back in business. Her first gig with the new instrument was for a charity event last week at the Bottom Line in NYC.
I still don't have much detail on who was involved and how it all happened, but basically she feels that some sort of miracle has occurred. And for all I know, people at the factory knew something about the situation from looking at the postings on this wonderful fan club website which Miles and Al created last year.
The guitar that was stolen was an "old" Adamas II 1581-7 (deep bowl cutaway, single epaulet, two knob). The Ovation Company made her a modern Adamas II 1581-7 (deep bowl cutaway, dual epaulets, modern electronics). She says it is virtually identical to the one she had.
What all this says to me is that the company really cares about the young artists who are out there on stage playing their guitars.
As soon as I get a digital picture suitable for posting, I'll upload it into the Members Gallery.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "Did she sleep with anyone in Kaman co?"
She doesn’t have to, with her talent. Maybe that approach would work better for you. | |
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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | popcritic----please tell me more about voice recognition software and which you found the best. thanks | |
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Location: atlanta | Russ, I'm no expert on voice recognition technology, but for several years I have been using the Dragon NaturallySpeaking system. I'm presently running Version 4.0 Preferred, but later versions are out there including the newest-- Version 6. Here's an Internet vendor that you should look at:
http://www.scansoft.com/naturallyspeaking
To say that I am thrilled about the program would be an understatement. I have to thank my wonderful wife who began researching commercial voice recognition programs just after I developed arthritis. The first versions were very slow, made a lot of mistakes, and in general were "not ready for prime time". All that changed when Version 3 was introduced about four years ago. It really rocked my world--suddenly I was able to dictate with speed and accuracy, edit and format, cut and paste... in fact I could voice-control any Windows-based program, including surfing the Internet by voice with Internet Explorer 5 and above.
I haven't bought anything from ScanSoft, but I certainly think it's got a lot of useful information about Dragon and hardware system compatibilities required to run the program successfully.
Just like Joe Bob said, "Check it out".
Best regards.
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