OT (slightly) - One of the finest performances I've ever witnessed on a guitar
AlanM
Posted 2010-02-09 10:33 PM (#380026)
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Angelo Debarre plays "La gitane" (just not on an 'O').

One of the most MASTERFUL performances I have ever seen or heard on a guitar.

Now THIS is intimidating! But, wonderful to listen to and watch.

The change of tune and scale at about 1:42 or so, is laugh-out-loud-jaw-dropping-just-showin'-off great!

This guy is flash, feel, speed, control, precision, sizzle, touch and panache -- on just about every note. An absolutely astonishingly great performance.

Here it is.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-02-09 11:15 PM (#380027 - in reply to #380026)
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Very talented... just not my cup of tea.
To many notes.

panache???
I bet that term has never been used here before.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-09 11:26 PM (#380028 - in reply to #380026)
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To each his own, I guess...I DID get right up, after listening to it about a dozen times, and grabbed the ol' 2080 and tried a few things... The fingers flew! It gave me great hope!

And, it turns out that the Rosenbergs can do it too...Not sure which I prefer. Both made me jump up and cheer at the end.

One thing I REALLY chuckle over is how bloomin' RELAXED they seem while they're playing. Just relaxing, hangin' 'round, havin' a good time, doin' some of the finest guitar playin' around!

Here\'s a link to the Rosenbergs.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-09 11:31 PM (#380029 - in reply to #380026)
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Well, apparently some young kid can pull it off too. Here it is.

** sigh **

Guess I have to try to learn it! And on an Ovation! (see you in a few hundred years)
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WillaMuse
Posted 2010-02-10 12:29 AM (#380030 - in reply to #380026)
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Alan, that was GREAT. I LOVED it, but I actually enjoyed the 'kid's' version even more. I want his beautiful, worn, guitar, too.

I was thinking the same thing you were, about how non-chalant they were. Now, c'mon ... you can do THAT!

;)
Willa
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-10 6:03 AM (#380031 - in reply to #380026)
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Lol! Welllllllll...maybe in a couple days!
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Northcountry
Posted 2010-02-10 7:32 AM (#380032 - in reply to #380026)
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I love this stuff. I get kinda buried in my own genre of music and it is good to see examples of unreal musicians, who I have never listened to before, doing things I am pretty sure I will never achieve.
If I could get my left hand to stay on all the notes and had the understanding of the fret board the way these guys do to run scales like that I still just do not think I could ever get my picking hand to go that fast and keep up.
Nice clip. Thanks
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Beal
Posted 2010-02-10 7:54 AM (#380033 - in reply to #380026)
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Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-02-10 8:00 AM (#380034 - in reply to #380026)
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They must have recorded it just before their execution
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-02-10 8:07 AM (#380035 - in reply to #380026)
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Panache Ye Tarriers Panache!
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cliff
Posted 2010-02-10 9:08 AM (#380036 - in reply to #380026)
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y'CAN'T feed Pancakes to Terriers!

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Patch
Posted 2010-02-10 9:51 AM (#380037 - in reply to #380026)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
I love this stuff. I get kinda buried in my own genre of music and it is good to see examples of unreal musicians, who I have never listened to before, doing things I am pretty sure I will never achieve.
If I could get my left hand to stay on all the notes and had the understanding of the fret board the way these guys do to run scales like that I still just do not think I could ever get my picking hand to go that fast and keep up.
Nice clip. Thanks
Thanks for typing all of that for me NC. :p :cool:
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-10 11:14 AM (#380038 - in reply to #380026)
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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Alan, that was GREAT. I LOVED it, but I actually enjoyed the 'kid's' version even more. I want his beautiful, worn, guitar, too.

I was thinking the same thing you were, about how non-chalant they were. Now, c'mon ... you can do THAT!

;)
Willa
I think the kid was playing along with Debarre's recording...and it sounded as though he was matching Angelo note for note. Man! there's some SERIOUS talent "out there!"
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cholloway
Posted 2010-02-10 2:47 PM (#380039 - in reply to #380026)
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Manouche jazz is like Scotch whiskey... it's an acquired taste.
Excellent performances no less.
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Northcountry
Posted 2010-02-10 5:11 PM (#380040 - in reply to #380026)
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"Thanks for typing all of that for me NC."

Patch........Just glad "someone" thought that "something" I had to say was OK.

That clip really makes me want to get serious.
I guess you begin to get complacent once you reach a workable level for what you like or need to do musically. There is still so much to learn and all it amounts to is taking the time and focusing and working hard most anyone can do it with enough effort and time.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-10 8:04 PM (#380041 - in reply to #380026)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
"Thanks for typing all of that for me NC."

Patch........Just glad "someone" thought that "something" I had to say was OK.

That clip really makes me want to get serious.
I guess you begin to get complacent once you reach a workable level for what you like or need to do musically. There is still so much to learn and all it amounts to is taking the time and focusing and working hard most anyone can do it with enough effort and time.
NC: GREAT point about the complacency! I play a style that is vaguely reminiscent of that clip, and when I listened to it for the first time, I initially felt real discouragement. But I was hooked on the music, so I watched and listened several more times. Couldn't help myself.

Then, as I mentioned further up in this thread, I grabbed the Adamas 2080 (a REALLY dissimilar guitar, by the way), and went at it. I gotta tell you, my precision, speed, touch and feel were MUCH better than usual! With no warm-up! I came back down a bit the next day, but that didn't change the fact that, for a while at least, I was a LOT better than I usually am.

I think it was kind of like when I played competitive table tennis. My game always went up a notch or two when my opponent was better.

So, I think that the company you keep -- be it on YouTube or in life -- has an effect on how well you do things.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-02-10 8:17 PM (#380042 - in reply to #380026)
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sheesh Alan... get a grip.
You sound like you're bout an inch away of claiming some kind of miracle.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-10 8:43 PM (#380043 - in reply to #380026)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
sheesh Alan... get a grip.
You sound like you're bout an inch away of claiming some kind of miracle.
Naaaah...just the adrenaline doing it...
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-02-10 8:58 PM (#380044 - in reply to #380026)
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stephent28
Posted 2010-02-10 9:32 PM (#380045 - in reply to #380026)
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pooookay
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-02-10 9:35 PM (#380046 - in reply to #380026)
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When I get as worked up as Alan is during practice, I find the best thing to do is pause a moment, stare off into the distance, and think about baseball.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-02-10 10:05 PM (#380047 - in reply to #380026)
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When I get as worked up as Alan is during practice... no, wait. I never get that worked up.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-02-10 10:15 PM (#380048 - in reply to #380026)
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I drink 10 cups of coffee a day just to stay boring. My bladder isn't big enough to get as stoked as Alan does about anything.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-10 11:03 PM (#380049 - in reply to #380026)
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Lol! I don't get that stoked up...but that gypsy jazz IS pretty compelling, ya has to admit!
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Northcountry
Posted 2010-02-11 8:31 AM (#380050 - in reply to #380026)
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Yep, Just had three cups of coffee and worked on some guitar scales. It is good to at least know where you are supposed to go next. It is only frustrating when you expect your pick hand to keep up with your fret hand right away. It is like expecting to Golf well every time you go. That only ruins the fun of that fantastic game. After seeing this clip; I am going to work on these scales and see if I can't increase the speed I can get through them by 10%. That's a good goal.

For the rest of you with "NO" goals.... You just keep whackin those Balls....one day you'll get your game together from the shear Whacking volume. !
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Jeff W.
Posted 2010-02-11 8:32 AM (#380051 - in reply to #380026)
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My mood stabilizers prevent such stuff. My doctor tells me I'm much happier.
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Posted 2010-02-11 11:54 AM (#380052 - in reply to #380026)
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Beal
Posted 2010-02-11 12:05 PM (#380053 - in reply to #380026)
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Yes, there is that............

I always liked the Django Djypsey djazz stuff. I also like the way John Jorgenson does it, in fact he had a cd out on it called Franco-American. The rhythm player was none other than Brad Davis! John also played Django in a movie about him.

All that said, I have no desire to play that style. Some times it's more fun to appreciate something from a distance.
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cliff
Posted 2010-02-11 12:29 PM (#380054 - in reply to #380026)
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Frampton does a couple nice ones(w/Jorgenson, as well) on his "Fingerprints" intrumental album . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2010-02-11 12:45 PM (#380055 - in reply to #380026)
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"Fingerprints" is an excellent album.

He told me at NAMM that he now does all of the recordings for his albums at his home studio using Cubase at 96K.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-11 1:17 PM (#380056 - in reply to #380026)
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Originally posted by Beal:
Yes, there is that............

I always liked the Django Djypsey djazz stuff. I also like the way John Jorgenson does it, in fact he had a cd out on it called Franco-American. The rhythm player was none other than Brad Davis! John also played Django in a movie about him.

All that said, I have no desire to play that style. Some times it's more fun to appreciate something from a distance.
Jorgenson IS great...It was because of Jorgenson that I went out last weekend back and bought a used Gitane D-500 ($350).

It was after playing with that very nice guitar for a bit that I found the Debarre clip. Well, THAT was certainly good timing!

I'd LOVE to see that Django movie! Anyone know the name of it?
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Posted 2010-02-11 1:28 PM (#380057 - in reply to #380026)
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The movie is called Head in the Clouds ("http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338097/). It has nothing to do with Django. He appeared in one of the nightclub scene, that's all.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-02-11 2:21 PM (#380058 - in reply to #380026)
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Thanks, PA...Oh, well...a movie about Django WOULD be nice though. Guess I have to stick with books and the internet 'til then!
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