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Location: Phoenix AZ | 
How do you like my lawn? Not bad for February, huh?
It's "Field Turf". Yup, 100% fake. Same stuff they play football on, minus the yard lines. I walk around downtown Scottsdale and everything is fake: lips, smiles, boobs, so I figure what the heck let's get some fake lawn so gives me more time to spend on the internet. The leaves are real, I actually DO have real trees.
The stuff isn't cheap (for the high end like I got it's about $12. a sq. foot) but it's absolutely awesome. Have had it over a year now and honestly one of the best investments I ever made. |
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Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany | :D Oh my... lol... don't you miss mowing your lawn sometimes? |
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Location: south east Michigan | Are the leaves real or fake?
Do you rake it, vacuum it, or power wash it?
It sure looks real enough. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Real grass is optional but the leaves need to be real
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Location: Flahdaw | I've read about that stuff. My neighborhood doesn't allow it, but with our annual droughts they are gonna have to reconsider these type of alternatives. Looks like great stuff to practice your chipping on. |
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Location: East Tennessee | I hate to bring this up but, what happens if the neighbors dog does a #2 on that stuff?
BTW: I love the guitars. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
The stuff isn't cheap (for the high end like I got it's about $12. a sq. foot) but it's absolutely awesome. Have had it over a year now and honestly one of the best investments I ever made. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My dog goes on it all the time. You just pick it up like you normally would. Without being too graphic, it's really low humidity out here so the "stuff" dries into hard "nuggets" really quick. It's not like a soft mess, you know what I mean. The grass is mesh backed so #1 is no problem and I just rinse it down with water every so often. My sprinkler system is still installed, so I just turn on the sprinklers and "water" it.
It's a great surface to photograph guitars on (thought I better reel this back to guitar-speak, wink wink) because there is no dirt, grass stains, or chance of scratching the guitar.
Yes, I like the Koa guitars as well. |
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Location: Ontario Canada | Originally posted by MWoody:
Real grass is optional but the leaves need to be real
"I'm gonna turn over a new leaf."
Thanks Gallerinski for the chuckle. Our grass is white for another couple of months. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | When I saw your picks, the first thing I noticed after the guitars was how nice your grass looked. It reminded me of how much flack I got for taking pictures before I mowed the lawn. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Mow ... hmmm
Sorry Mark, I don't recognize that word |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
When I saw your picks, the first thing I noticed after the guitars was how nice your grass looked. It reminded me of how much flack I got for taking pictures before I mowed the lawn. Mark, you got flack because you're an attorney. The lawn was just an excuse.... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | That's just my cover. I'm really a rock star and had to fire my lawn boy that week. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I think both those picks look almost like something out of Playboy. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | The picture with the leaves almost makes me homesick for New England. The guitars are beautiful too. I've never played a koa guitar of any brand. I have heard that the koa is harder than spruce and so cuts down on the tone, but after hearing what you said (especially about the 14 fretter) I'd like to try one. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | What's "Playboy"?
And if Dave hasn't got a riding Lawnmower what does he drive to the Tavern and back in? |
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Location: closely held secret | On. And wuddya tink he lives in Minnysoda? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Did someone say yard?
real grass/leaves/tree/:
I actually enjoy cutting the grass...and there's something ya gotta love about those lawn ornaments:
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| Originally posted by Gallerinski:
... I walk around downtown Scottsdale and everything is fake: lips, smiles, boobs, Sort of how I see Toronto except I describe it as "everything, including the people, is cheaper than it looks." |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by MWoody:
What's "Playboy"?
And if Dave hasn't got a riding Lawnmower what does he drive to the Tavern and back in? He used to have one until his wife took the keys to his ol' John Deere.... |
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Location: Right now? | Photo #3 of MM's just cracks me up everytime I see it; it looks like they are all waiting for him to come home and PLAY with them! The guitars I have in my office/music room are situated behind me when I'm at my desk ... I swear they whisper to me ... "Psssttt ... Willa Jean! Willa Jean! ... c'mon ... quit working ... c'mon ... you KNOW you need the practice ..."
Dave, I wish I could afford your lawn, and God knows being here on the east coast I have more than enough leaves every autumn ... I just hate lawn maintenance!! Very nice ... the guitars AND the lawns. How long is that stuff supposed to 'keep', and does that hot sun out there fade the color?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Very nice ... the guitars AND the lawns. How long is that stuff supposed to 'keep', and does that hot sun out there fade the color? That's actually the big thing that's made this possible in recent years, developing a material that stands up to the sun and does not fade or break down. We have about 330 days of sunshine a year. But they have finally nailed it (supposedly) and it's guaranteed for 15 years. They give you a small piece at the time of installation to keep inside out of the sun as a reference. The only slight downside (in Arizona) is that in the middle of summer the surface does get hot. Hotter than real grass. You can still walk on it, but it's a little toasty. |
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Location: closely held secret | Dave, what do they lay it over? Gravel, asphalt? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | They scrap off about 2 inches of existing soil/sod and put down a weed/grass killing chemical and then cover with very fine sand (like dust), which I was told is crushed granite. They pack it down with a machine and then lay the fake grass on top of it. The grass is then covered fine black rubber dust that's made from recycled car tires and it's worked into the subsurface. The weight of the rubber is actually what holds it down. Ever see a slow-motion tackle on a football game and there is a little black dust coming off the turf? That's what it is. But it's worked into the "roots" so far that you'd really have to smack it to get any flying up. I guess a 300 lb lineman could do it but I can't. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | It may be the most popular artificial turf. They put it in at Boise State after a lineman died of a head injury after being bounced off the old stuff. They had to replace the first generation of field turf because the color faded. Probably would have been OK if it was faded green, but it's blue here. |
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Location: Pennsylvania | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
They scrap off about 2 inches of existing soil/sod and put down a weed/grass killing chemical and then cover with very fine sand (like dust), which I was told is crushed granite. They pack it down with a machine and then lay the fake grass on top of it. The grass is then covered fine black rubber dust that's made from recycled car tires and it's worked into the subsurface. The weight of the rubber is actually what holds it down. Ever see a slow-motion tackle on a football game and there is a little black dust coming off the turf? That's what it is. But it's worked into the "roots" so far that you'd really have to smack it to get any flying up. I guess a 300 lb lineman could do it but I can't. When I was in Peoria, AZ in 1985 I saw a few yards that were completely concrete and painted green. Glad to see that the technology is much more advanced and realistic looking now. |
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Location: Ontario Canada | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Probably would have been OK if it was faded green, but it's blue here. Hello Mark,
That's a new one, not Kentucky blue grass but Idaho blue grass.
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Location: Tennessee | My son has been playing football on field turf for about five years now, and my other son has been playing lacrosse on turf like this for more than that. Almost all of the football fields in our area here are made out of this stuff now. We too get a lot of sunshine and fairly warm weather, and it does hold up real well. I've spent a lot of time on the field and the "grass" is really great stuff. Really nice to run on, and totally different than the astroturf I played on (or shall I say bled on) because it doesn't scrape you up. Also no turf toe, it eliminates most all knee and ankle injuries from cleats sticking when you cut, and like Mark said it had good cushioning for heads and other hard hits. Every few years they need to put down some new rubber into the turf, but so far that's it. It has been a huge cost savings for our schools here even with the large initial investment.
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Location: south east Michigan | Back in '70 the track around the football field was.... I kid you not... cinders. Big black, chunky, glassy rocks with razor sharp edges. You did not want to fall. |
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Location: closely held secret | We still have that... except it's crushed lava. |
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Location: south east Michigan | yeah... thats the stuff. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Back in '70 the track around the football field was.... I kid you not... cinders. Big black, chunky, glassy rocks with razor sharp edges. You did not want to fall. In high school, one of our "away" cross-country meets was at a high school with a cinder track. The last quarter-mile of the course was, naturally, a lap around said track. After I finished, I turned around to watch the rest of the pack come in and saw a group of six or seven runners go down in a heap on the last turn. Lots of scraped knees, elbows, hands, &c. I wonder if the athletic director was sadistic or if cinders were just incredibly cheap surfacing material. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
I'm just waiting for the designer colors and patterns to become available. 
Bronco blue is available. |
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Location: big island | so it's already february in arizona? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by lanaki:
so it's already february in arizona? Randy the clocks in Hawaii are "behind" Arizona, but not THAT far. |
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Location: big island | i was simply responding to your initial post in this thread...
or since you are selling your calendars, perhaps you don't know what month it is???
love the turf and the guitars nevertheless! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ah, now I get it. February? Yeah, well the winters in Arizona are short you know. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Its a great shame those lovely pics of grass are ruined by those horrid guitars ;) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Plastic guitars on plastic grass |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Originally posted by MWoody:
What's "Playboy"? Mike that's the magazines with all the interesting articles in it, or lack of. ;) |
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