To hang or not to hang?
pastyp
Posted 2009-12-31 5:15 AM (#384573)
Subject: To hang or not to hang?


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Have always kept my guitars (only two so far) in their cases. About to purchase a third and would like to put away the cases and hang them on the wall. Have purchased good quality Hercules attachments to hang them on, but was wondering the views of you guys? The Hercules attachments are the same as they use in a number of music stores I've visited. However some opinions i've heard warn that hanging a guitar like this stresses the neck (over time). Another opinion is that Ovations can suffer bridge damage due to the stresses of being hung. I thought that this would be the best place to get quality and knowledgeable feedback.

Many thanks in advance.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-12-31 5:23 AM (#384574 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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I've always hung all my guitars no matter what make, and never had a problem. I believe putting them in a herc hanger is probably the least stressful way of displaying them. Never heard of a problem generated by hanging them.
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pastyp
Posted 2009-12-31 5:42 AM (#384575 - in reply to #384573)
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Good to know Trader Jim and by looking at your 'Guitars I've known' collection you certainly have enough experience to know!! What a collection of photographs!! Have you owned/own all of these? You certainly have a talent for capturing the beauty of the guitar in photographs. Happily spent time looking through the collection.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-12-31 5:47 AM (#384576 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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I hang my 2007 Collector (in the lounge / sitting room) so it's easily grabbable (is that a word?). I doubt hanging puts any damaging stress onto the guitar.

All my others however slumber, snuggly tucked up in their cases waiting for the call to arms (literally, geddit ;) )

Hey Pastyp if you like nice pics of guitars you might like to look at mine (see signature).
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pastyp
Posted 2009-12-31 6:08 AM (#384577 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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Hi dweezil, Nice collection! I only have two soon to be three, a Martin HD28 and a Takamine EN20C. The Takamine is the workhorse for a band I play in. Soon to have a 12 string pacemaker to play with the band.

Really liked the samples you had on your site from your upcoming recordings. I see your from Blighty, the samples I heard had the traditional feel to them. Really enjoyed them. If you don't mind me saying they also reminded me of trad Irish. There are a few different artists I listen too that have the same feel - Denis Cahill who plays with a great irish trad fidle player, Martin Hayes is a joy to listen to. Also a band called Altan, who combine the trad sound of the DADGAD guitar very well into their music. Enjoyed listening dweezil, thanks - will follow up when album is released.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-12-31 6:20 AM (#384578 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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Thanks!

I'm a sucker for Turlough O'Carolan tunes, first album has a couple as will the next. Next week I'll be recording Blind Mary and Carolan's Draught, DADGBE and DADGAD (capo at 5th fret).

You might be interested in this...

http://www.keithhinchliffe.com/tunes.html
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pastyp
Posted 2009-12-31 6:35 AM (#384579 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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O'Carolan's harp written melodies transfer so naturally to guitar, espcially with the bass drone of DADGAD and DADGBE. The DADGAD bass drone also fits the Irish traditional guitar accompanied tunes because of the use of the Uilleann pipe which had that constant bass running through the music. Nice discovery!
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-12-31 7:34 AM (#384580 - in reply to #384573)
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Hang 'em high, hang 'em proud!
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pastyp
Posted 2009-12-31 7:37 AM (#384581 - in reply to #384573)
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:)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-12-31 8:07 AM (#384582 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?
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No issues to hang on the wall. Any stress to the neck or bridge is negligable compared to the hundreds of pounds of stress imposed by the strings.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-31 9:08 AM (#384583 - in reply to #384573)
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Glad to hear you're finally getting a PM. You'll LOVE it!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-12-31 9:13 AM (#384584 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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I've been hanging mine for 10 years now and never had any issues. I use various types of hangers, and have even made my own to fit specific applications. More serious concern should be directed to how the hanger is attached to the wall as well as maintaining proper humidity in the room where the guitars are hung.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-31 9:49 AM (#384585 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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I like to keep mine hanging so I can go down the line and ensure each one gets her fair share of playing. When I play one, the others actually resonate to the point where it sounds like they're all singing along. Just like one big happy family (:

On the other hand, some members here have so many guitars they probably don't have the wall space. Must be tough for them ... having to live with the guilt of not playing them all.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-31 9:59 AM (#384586 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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Originally posted by bvince:

On the other hand, some members here have so many guitars they probably don't have the wall space. Must be tough for them ... having to live with the guilt of not playing them all.
I used to fit that description....and you are right. I did feel guilty not giving them all some quality time on a regular basis.

Have sold most of them and now have things down to a managable level and they all hang on the wall so that they can resonate and sing along.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-12-31 10:05 AM (#384587 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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Originally posted by bvince:
On the other hand, some members here have so many guitars they probably don't have the wall space. Must be tough for them ...
But then there's all that space on the ceiling, and (bonk) the gear racks.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-12-31 10:08 AM (#384588 - in reply to #384573)
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I'm h... er, my guitars are all hung, except for the ones on stands because I ran out of wall space.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-31 10:16 AM (#384589 - in reply to #384573)
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I have lots of walls and lots of room if anyone needs to "store" a few expensive peices. I'll keep 'em dusted, tuned, and promise to play with each of them.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-31 11:27 AM (#384590 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?
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Originally posted by bvince:
Must be tough for them ... having to live with the guilt of not playing them all.
Really, it's not all that bad... knowing that my G-babies will inherit some of my favorite guitars is priceless. Besides, I rather enjoy pulling out a requested Kaman product from the 'closet' for an 'O' gathering.

I do rotate 'em periodically and keep at least four or five at hand. When I do, it's a joy to reconnect with the flavor and individual characteristics that captured me in the first place.

Many here may not appreciate my 'take' and I do understand. This is a hobby for me and it has provided me with hundreds of hours of satisfaction. After doing some research and adopting an Ovation, I love stripping it down, doing an 'Iffy Beauty Treatment' and recapturing it's ol' luster. After restringing and tuning up, it's time to savor and evaluate the playability and tonal qualities (in my limited way).

Those that have received any of my gits have nothing left to do but play 'em.

Then, there's the wonderful stories of the quests and the fabulous folk I've met as a result!

Well, excuse me for a while... I have a recently adopted 1657 that really needs an IBT...
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Beal
Posted 2009-12-31 11:43 AM (#384591 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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hang em high
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pastyp
Posted 2009-12-31 11:48 AM (#384592 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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Great feedback :) Yes a PM will be mine again soon and it is because of the arrival of my third guitar (which is a poor showing compared to the lucky ones here :) but gives me something to aim for!!!) I want to put all three on the wall. I'll have the Martin HD28 on the left, Takamine (workhorse) EN20C on the right and the BEAUTIFUL pacemaker in the center. They say you should only hang art on the wall - well can't think of any better art than a living breathing musical instrument. Especially the PM, with its sunburst and beautiful headstock. Hmmm - can't wait!!!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-12-31 1:57 PM (#384593 - in reply to #384573)
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"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately" - Benjamin Franklin 1776
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-12-31 2:21 PM (#384594 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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Originally posted by bvince:
On the other hand, some members here have so many guitars they probably don't have the wall space. Must be tough for them ... having to live with the guilt of not playing them all.
Hey... I resemble that remark.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2010-01-01 1:55 AM (#384595 - in reply to #384573)
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There's mirrors behind
The minds of crazy faces
Bullet holes
And guitars in their cases
Always one more notch
And four more aces
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bvince
Posted 2010-01-01 4:26 PM (#384596 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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HANG 'em ALL! ... (updated picture to come)
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-01-01 6:55 PM (#384597 - in reply to #384573)
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Hang em high! Just make sure you have a watchdog..



Nice Vince, I feel so inadequate...
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FlySig
Posted 2010-01-01 7:04 PM (#384598 - in reply to #384573)
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We've got one of those vicious guard dogs, too.

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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-01-01 7:49 PM (#384599 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?
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Day-um Bryan, ya tryin' to catch up with the Prof?

Nice 'O' wall!!
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bvince
Posted 2010-01-01 8:34 PM (#384600 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?



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Thanks, but I'm already a couple over the limit (the one in - one out rule has been broken) I'm wondering when she will come down and do a count again, then the pressure will be on to sell a couple. My strategy right now is to keep the basement uncomforably cold, so she won't want to go there (; also to keep a couple in their cases.
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-01-01 11:26 PM (#384601 - in reply to #384573)
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Basements are good but they hang well in the UP also...must be something about northern Michigan. This one has yet to reproduce up there.

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1617
Posted 2010-01-02 12:16 AM (#384602 - in reply to #384573)
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Hanging is Ok - stores have always done it. I like to case mine - keeps the dust off.
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bvince
Posted 2010-01-02 12:48 PM (#384603 - in reply to #384573)
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I keep the dust off mine by playing them extra hard.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-01-02 1:53 PM (#384604 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
Basements are good
That antler up there looks like it could hold a couple... (Is that an ol' Creek Chub over your head?)


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pastyp
Posted 2010-01-03 7:35 AM (#384605 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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Have started to attack the wall to hang the Hurcules attachments. Will have three on the wall - but its a big wall ;) lots of space left to fill.

My wife has been looking nervously over my shoulder at the fantastic collections some of you guys have - what was it 'one in, one out' :)
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-01-03 10:13 AM (#384606 - in reply to #384573)
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I would imagine the humidity is pretty high in Ireland. Before you hung all your guitars, I would check your indoor levels. I bought a low cost ($25) indoor device that checks temp and humidity and found that my house has the perfect, recommended temp and humidity levels. Now they're all going up on the wall.
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pastyp
Posted 2010-01-03 4:43 PM (#384607 - in reply to #384573)
Subject: Re: To hang or not to hang?


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The humidity is high in Ireland all year round. Will act on your recommendation. Thanks.
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-01-03 5:52 PM (#384608 - in reply to #384573)
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Excellent advice to follow, pasty. $25 vs how much for your guitars...?

Just do it.

(And that "one in, one out" rule is just a nasty rumor...)
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Otto
Posted 2010-01-04 2:37 AM (#384609 - in reply to #384573)
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If you want to hang 'em right though, you have to use special hangers designed expressly for Ovations.



I was cruising a local junk shop this week, looking for nothing in particular when the corner of this card caught my eye. Sitting all by itself amongst a completely unrelated bunch of glassware and knick knacks. Hadda have it.

Otto
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Otto
Posted 2010-01-04 3:06 AM (#384610 - in reply to #384573)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
...must be something about northern Michigan. This one has yet to reproduce up there.

Rich, the flute is probably okay company but nothing a guitar will want to create a deep enough relationship with. But give it time. The 1537 I bought a little over a year ago has since produced one hell of a family. . :rolleyes:

Your place looks awesome, incidently. Is that a slab of pipestone? Very nice.

Otto
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-01-04 7:57 AM (#384611 - in reply to #384573)
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Otto,
Thanks. Actually not a flute but a wood back massager. There is no pipestone in the photo. The mantle is a pine log I notched out to fit over the supports and the rock and sill is of the "cultured stone" variety.
Johnny the lure above my head is one of those giant rapela's I picked up on ebay a few years back. "Firetiger" pattern was the hot one at that time. My wife rolled her eyes at that addition.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-01-04 9:25 AM (#384612 - in reply to #384573)
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I actually prefer the String Swings, or most of them, because they come with a 1/4" threaded rod that expands the mounting appplication possibilities. Say, pastyp, there's a lot of other stuff you hang on the wall between the guitars while you're building your collection, like signs, banners, and all kinds of collectible crap. Try not to take it too seriously because the collectibles can become just as consuming as the guitars.
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pastyp
Posted 2010-01-04 12:04 PM (#384613 - in reply to #384573)
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I've got an old twin bladed prop from an old 60's piper cub......Hmmmmm....might look good on the wall until I can fill it with Os :)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-01-04 12:58 PM (#384614 - in reply to #384573)
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I like ol' propellers and ship helm wheels. Maybe old fashioned and dated... but so am I.
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pastyp
Posted 2010-01-04 4:45 PM (#384615 - in reply to #384573)
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I like all things to do with avation, have a lot around the house - my other love besides music and guitars.

Thankfully the prop is in better condition than the cub it was originally attached to.
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yoch
Posted 2010-01-11 12:51 AM (#384616 - in reply to #384573)
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Beautiful......Just Beautiful.........
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WillaMuse
Posted 2010-01-11 10:23 AM (#384617 - in reply to #384573)
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I hang mine for photos, then put them because my house is too dusty. Some sit on stands as well, seducing me to play with them:

My dogs guard all my guitars ... whereever they might be at the time. Henry sounds the alarm:

Rufus watches the house and car:


Then there's crazy-@ss Diesel, who routinely checks the attic and yard for possible suspects. He has been trained to bite the most delicate areas of possible home and/or guitar invaders and can silently make it to the fence/gate in six seconds flat. Can you?




Diego just patiently listens to me practice:

And Quincy does his part:


;)
Willa
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Dale Lutes
Posted 2010-01-11 11:19 AM (#384618 - in reply to #384573)
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Hey Willa! Looks like your Quincy is about as ferocious as my Jessie.

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twistedlim
Posted 2010-01-11 11:21 AM (#384619 - in reply to #384573)
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Wow Dale, that is a mighty fine burst on that 12!
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-01-11 11:25 AM (#384620 - in reply to #384573)
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That's nothing, I can fit my dig INSIDE my guitar.
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Dale Lutes
Posted 2010-01-11 11:52 AM (#384621 - in reply to #384573)
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twistedlim wrote:
Wow Dale, that is a mighty fine burst on that 12!
Thanks, Rich. I was fortunate to take her off of Old Man Arthur's hands a while back. Sounds as good as it looks.
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pastyp
Posted 2010-01-11 2:12 PM (#384622 - in reply to #384573)
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Well when you have the kind of collection that you guys have - you need them protected :) Just noticed that I am now a member rather than junior member. Linked to the amount you post? Anyway great to be part of OFC, what ever about my early stupid mis behaviour :(
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-01-11 3:12 PM (#384623 - in reply to #384573)
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The "junior" disappears with the number of posts. I bet most have forgotten your "misbehavior".
Our dog used to be afraid of my guitar, but that was when it just sat on a stand and was rarely played. She finally got used to them, but wouldn't be worth anything as a guard dog.
I do like hanging the guitars as a means of keeping them safe from pets and kids, as well keeping them all exposed to the room humidifier.
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WillaMuse
Posted 2010-01-11 10:26 PM (#384624 - in reply to #384573)
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Patsy, your guitar is FABULOUS, and your Corgi, Jesse is absolutely adorable, and about as FAT as my Quincy, too, lol. They are just the cutest damn (great!) dogs, too.

Obviously, I am sucker for guitars AND animals ... somebody's gotta love 'em!

;)
Willa
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MWoody
Posted 2010-01-11 11:11 PM (#384625 - in reply to #384573)
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But will the Dogs do an interpretive dance whenever you lay a guitar down?

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1617
Posted 2010-01-11 11:43 PM (#384626 - in reply to #384573)
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Vince - now that's a music room!
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