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Location: Flahdaw | I like to tune my git down 2 steps cause the key fits my voice better. I play with 12's. Of course, the strings get a little squirrelly sometimes, and when using a capo I get some intonation issues occasionally.
So, which one can I tune 2 steps down and maintain string tension with 12's....short or long scale guitar? Thanks in advance. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Get a baritone guitar. They sound wonderful, easier to capo up if you want standard tuning and are great to sing with at the lower tuning.
Ovation makes a great one but if you go that route try to get the earlier model (DS768 I believe) vs the latter.
I own 3 baritones and they are fantastic flavor of ice cream to have in your arsenal. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | |
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Location: Flahdaw | Thanks Stephen. I guess I need a baritone with a wide nut. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | baritones inherently have a wide nut.
Beal's got a true "wide nut" baritone and the thing is a bitch to play. Long neck and wide nut create a beast that is almost too much to handle. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | A baritone (aka ovation longneck) is generally configured so that if you capo at the 2nd fret, it is identical to a standard 25.4" scale guitar with 1-11/16 nut. I think Bill had his made so that capo'd at the 2nd it would play like a 1-7/8. So I think his virgin nutwidth is 2-1/8 approx.
And BTW if you capo a standard 25.4" guitar at the 1st fret, it's roughly equivalent to a "short scale" guitar which are usually about 24.9". AND if you capo your classical at the 5th fret and throw away the 2 lowest strings it'll play like a low G strung ukulele. |
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Location: Tennessee | I put 14's on one of mine and tuned it D to D. Seemed to be about right. I think the lowest string is 59 in that set. A bunch of mfrs make the set (most call it heavy). I bought D'Adds. I tried mediums, but they still seemed a tad floppy to me. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
I put 14's on one of mine and tuned it D to D. Seemed to be about right. I think the lowest string is 59 in that set. A bunch of mfrs make the set (most call it heavy). I bought D'Adds. I tried mediums, but they still seemed a tad floppy to me. I tried that...hated the feel of it. Maybe someone at g8rbowl will have a baritone to try out. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | there might be one there, especially now.
My 2080D is only 1 7/8 at the nut. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Great! I guess now there's no need to bring your Collings, or Martins, or Adamas's.... |
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Location: Chicago | I own 3 baritones and they are fantastic flavor of ice cream to have in your arsenal. Awesome metaphoricalistic mixification, Stephen! I can just see it: a vanilla-swirl baritone (Sinatra?) being fired out of a Howitzer! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | no need to bring Collings, Martins or Adamaii.
OK, I'll stay home.............. |
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| Beal, bring one (or more) of the new Merrills... |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by G8r:
Beal, bring one (or more) of the new Merrills... Are they all Baritones? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Merrills are considered to be some of the best modern made pre-war sounding Martin clones available.
As far as I know Merrill has never made a baritone. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Are they all Baritones? [/QB]
Jeez!....no one ever gets my jokes! |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by dark bar:
Are they all Baritones?
Jeez!....no one ever gets my jokes! [/QB]
Try a different angle, Bob. Like maybe, oh, I don't know, try to make them humorous...? |
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Location: Flahdaw | Humorous? Ha! That's only for amateurs. My jokes are for deep thinkers. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I got it. |
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Location: Alagoas, Brazil | Originally posted by dark bar:
Originally posted by G8r:
Beal, bring one (or more) of the new Merrills... Are they all Baritones? I don´t think so. Anyway, OFC gatherings look more like a Soprano´s thing... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Not since Serge shaved |
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Location: Tennessee | I always associated Serge's 'stache with cheesey wah-wah.
Does it take a different kind of worm guts to make a baritone? |
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