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| Kinda sorta looking for my first Adamas. I've been incredibly fortunate to play the best Adamii out there, including the 47RI, the OFC, the UTE, and several original slotheads. How does the Adamas II (circa 1980 or so) compare? How does the I compare to the II (I have to admit I prefer the headstock/bridge of the I over the II). What are the differences in tone, bracing patterns, etc.?
There are a couple being offered in South Florida that I can check out this coming week while I'm there, but unless they accept a really lowball offer I'd rather deal with Al. Any info greatly appreciated. |
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Location: SoCal | Different necks and bridges. Slightly different paint on the top. Aside from that, pretty close... |
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Location: Germany | Adamas guitars can sound different but I think there are no generic soundwise differences between AIs and AIIs. Apart from #47RI (which plays in another league) my AII from 1980 is the best sounding Adamas I own. Maybe because she has been widely played.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Grab an '08 collectors from Al.
Best of the old and the new. When I played Mike's at Amelia I though it sounded very close to the #47RI and the OFC for 1/2 the cost.....plus the contour back.
If I was gonna buy an Adamas today, THE '08 COLLECTORS would be the one! |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Years ago when I met Kim Keller, he was talking about l's % ll's. He said more people could buy Adamas ll's because the price was lower, One factor: the neck on the I cost $700, while the neck on the ll cost $400.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ditto T28. The '08 Collector is THE ONE to get.
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Location: SoCal | I don't care for the look of the '08C, but there's no denying the sound and playability of it. You won't go wrong getting one.... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Paul,
Bet if it was blue you would like it. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Not even if you gave me one...chop off that headstock and stick a broccoli slothead on there, it'd be a winner :D |
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| Thanks for the feedback, guys. I gotta go with Tim on this. If the tonal difference between a I, II and 08C is minuscule I'd rather have the broccoli head, ideally a slothead but that ain't likely to happen. If the 08C had a broccoli slothead I would have found some way to convince SWMBO to let me have one by now.
Since I can't afford Cholloway's original slothead, and no one's giving up a 47RI anytime (at least not for much less than Colloway was wanting for his #45), I guess I'm leaning towards a I. Moody, are the necks fatter or skinnier on the I than on the II? |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Shouldabeen
I would have been in line for one...wideneck, of course
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Location: Phoenix AZ | If you want a brocholli-slot on an '08 then order one that way.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | I just might Dave ;)
Only I think I'll do the bowl in Fire Engine Red or something like this
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | and the '08s come standard with a wideneck.
Interesting the love for the broccoli. I always considered the sound and playability first with the appearance 2nd.
That red does look pretty damn cool. |
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Location: SoCal | But Stephen, the Adamas I just calls to you to play, and it is the best...if you had the money (extra $10K), would you buy a 911 or a 911S Porsche? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I'd buy a Volkswagen and put all the money I just saved into a retirement account with a guaranteed 8% return! :p |
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Location: SoCal | Had a 1963 VW...in 1966, reversed the rims, 775 Buick tires on the back (cut out the wheel wells), nerf bars front and back, wood paneling for the door panels, and a black satin sleeping bag in the back...probably the 1st 4 track stereo in Eugene. Great car for rallies and autocross. |
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Location: SoCal | Now, back to the topic...anyone want to buy a as-new Adamas II 12-string (-8) so I can buy Stephen's slothead Tak? |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
Had a 1963 VW...in 1966, reversed the rims, 775 Buick tires on the back (cut out the wheel wells), nerf bars front and back, wood paneling for the door panels, and a black satin sleeping bag in the back...probably the 1st 4 track stereo in Eugene. Great car for rallies and autocross. And you wish you still had it!! :D :D |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Tim in Tidewater:
Not even if you gave me one...chop off that headstock and stick a broccoli slothead on there, it'd be a winner :D I just puked.
Originally posted by stephent28:
Interesting the love for the broccoli. I always considered the sound and playability first with the appearance 2nd. That would be a valid point if the celery improved the sound or playability. To me it just looks like a recycled Eastern European dining table leg. (Sorry to all the Easter Europeans out there.)
Steve, if a guitar REALLY offended you, visually, but played and sounded excellent, would you desire it? I mean, REALLY REALLY offended you? |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by stephent28:
Paul,
Bet if it was blue you would like it. Could be.... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Tim, If you are ordering the red one ask for no hatch door. The gloss contour bowl looks much better sans hatch. That's how my black one is. The hatch breaks up the whole flow of the look. Dave |
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Location: closely held secret | Must be hard to play with the bowl facing out... |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | if a guitar REALLY offended you, visually, but played and sounded excellent, would you desire it? Funny, that's exactly how I view the woodbox, squareheads that certain other guitar makers have been producing for quite a number of years. They REALLY just don't appeal to me regardless of how well they may sound or play...
You don't like the broccoli heads on the AD I's, that's fine. I'm not telling you to, it leaves more for me to buy up :D
In the end, it's all just different flavors of ice cream... |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Originally posted by Tim in Tidewater:
if a guitar REALLY offended you, visually, but played and sounded excellent, would you desire it? Funny, that's exactly how I view the woodbox, squareheads that certain other guitar makers have been producing for quite a number of years. They REALLY just don't appeal to me regardless of how well they may sound or play...
You don't like the broccoli heads on the AD I's, that's fine. I'm not telling you to, it leaves more for me to buy up :D
In the end, it's all just different flavors of ice cream...
My .02, I have a UTE, 1681 and 1685. I find them ALL to be exceptional guitars and exceptional values. I do "jones" for a broccoli head someday, but these will do me fine until then.
Serge, good luck in your search. I don't think that you can go wrong with any textured top Adamas. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by muzza:
Steve, if a guitar REALLY offended you, visually, but played and sounded excellent, would you desire it? I mean, REALLY REALLY offended you? Good question....I do own a Taylor :D .
and just for the record, I do own several of the broccoli headstocks....but once I got the strong desire to own the first one out of the way, it really didn't remain an issue one way or the other for any other Adamii I have since owned. |
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| If you not going to go for a collectors from Al, I have an Adamas 1 in the blue with the cutaway body I am still thinking of selling.
These are not easy to find anymore, the cutaway 1's just don't come around much at auction or on a dealers rack.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | G8R, If you can get an early one there isn't a lot of difference, mostly just cosmetic. Go for it. |
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Three of my Five Adamii on vacation in Fla.
Amazing guitars in every way...
Just get ya self one! or two...or three...or...
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Mike, if your house was on fire and you could only grab one guitar on the way out the door, which one would it be? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Richard P.:
Mike, if your house was on fire and you could only grab one guitar on the way out the door, which one would it be? I'd be there pushing Mike out of the way to save his '48 Martin !!!
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Forget the guitars, just get SWMBO & the kids out! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Tim, you have the right answer: They are the priority!
Dave, Obviously the '48 is the most valuable...and it's right where I can grab it quickly after the wife and kids are safe...But the key here folks is to insure your collection: and that takes getting them appraised (this can be a like item value comparison, or a receipt from a purchase,etc.) and of course Pictures, Pictures, Pictures! Save these in an off site place. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, when you gonna answer my question about your rack of gear in the Amelia Island thread? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I love my wife dearly, but in the grand scheme of things I could find a new wife a whole lot easier than I could find a mint '48 Martin D28.
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Location: SoCal | Oddly enough, that makes a lot of sense..... |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I'm into maximizing opportunity. Why not ask the wife and kids to grab some of your guitars on their way out as well? |
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Location: ranson,wva | my fav adamas is the ugly protoype phelonic top adamas I in stonges living room....last tour i played that thing for a few hours..loved it..
but if i had to pick it would be a adamas I cutaway in #2 finish. ive played 1's and II's at the tour andat al's and i prefer the looks and feel of the adamas 1's |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Funny, we're talking about fires today and we just had a tornado touchdown less than a mile from the house...we hunkered down in the music room :D |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Back to the original question, Adamas I vs. II, both are winners. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | So true...can't go wrong with either of them! |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Good luck to you, Tim. You may have a day of clean up down in the boat yard. |
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