OT: North to South...to North?
Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-15 3:50 PM (#386950)
Subject: OT: North to South...to North?


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Man what a ride...Looks like Norseman who turned Saguaro Man may soon be frozen tundra man again!

This economy is a trip. Used to be the hardest part of relocating would be to find work where you want to live...heck, that was the easy part...trying to sell my house in this market has been impossible! 6.5 acres in Northern Minnesota, set up for horses and whatever animals you would want...prime whitetail hunting literally out your back door. 2500 sq. ft. home with 14 ft. vaulted ceilings, three huge skylights, three bay windows, all new applicances, two gas fireplaces and one soapstone wood stove w/hearth,...great location just outside of town...listed over the past two years between 192,000.00-185,000.00..can't get an offer (other than contract for deed).

Anyone want to trade for a 1537? I'll throw in two ponies and a rifle.

Norse(hard times)man1
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BT717
Posted 2009-12-15 4:11 PM (#386951 - in reply to #386950)
Subject: Re: OT: North to South...to North?


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For what you're asking in Ct you get a 1200-1500 ft home built in the 40's-50's and maybe a 1/2 acre or less with plumbing problems!!!! oh, and thousands of pets in the form of Ants and termites! :eek: :D :p
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-12-15 4:21 PM (#386952 - in reply to #386950)
Subject: Re: OT: North to South...to North?


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Another reason I got the heck out of Connecticut. The house I bought in Hot Springs has three bedrooms, a wrap-around screened-in porch, and a one car garage. What I spent wouldn't have bought me a small chicken coop in Connecticut.

Norse, I don't have a 1537 to spare, but what'll you take for that soapstone woodstove? I have a couple of Taylors on the wall here. One to trade for the woodstove, and one to burn in it? :D
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-15 4:22 PM (#386953 - in reply to #386950)
Subject: Re: OT: North to South...to North?
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Sorry, not enough ponies! Got five G-babies...

Seriously, sounds lovely! Tough markets, all over...

Good luck!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-12-15 4:25 PM (#386954 - in reply to #386950)
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Its tough everywhere.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-15 4:44 PM (#386955 - in reply to #386950)
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Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
and one to burn in it?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-15 4:48 PM (#386956 - in reply to #386950)
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Originally posted by BT717:
For what you're asking in Ct you get a 1200-1500 ft home built in the 40's-50's and maybe a 1/2 acre or less with plumbing problems!!!!

For what you're asking, in California you can make a down payment on a condo. :rolleyes:

How much are the taxes? I have a 1537 that I could part with ...
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-12-15 4:49 PM (#386957 - in reply to #386950)
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:D Hey, what can I say? I take consignments.
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War Eagle
Posted 2009-12-15 4:58 PM (#386958 - in reply to #386950)
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Why don't myself and a few friends lease it for a week for the whitetail hunting...It could make a mortgage payment..Just sayin'
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-15 5:06 PM (#386959 - in reply to #386950)
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Wait'll I make my deal first, War Eagle. Then we'll talk. :)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-15 5:08 PM (#386960 - in reply to #386950)
Subject: Re: OT: North to South...to North?
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Originally posted by War Eagle:
whitetail hunting...
They have a whitetail season during the week of summer?

Regardless, I like the idea!
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-15 5:14 PM (#386961 - in reply to #386950)
Subject: Re: OT: North to South...to North?


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Originally posted by Norseman1:
Man what a ride...Looks like Norseman who turned Saguaro Man may soon be frozen tundra man again!

This economy is a trip. Used to be the hardest part of relocating would be to find work where you want to live...heck, that was the easy part...trying to sell my house in this market has been impossible! 6.5 acres in Northern Minnesota, set up for horses and whatever animals you would want...prime whitetail hunting literally out your back door. 2500 sq. ft. home with 14 ft. vaulted ceilings, three huge skylights, three bay windows, all new applicances, two gas fireplaces and one soapstone wood stove w/hearth,...great location just outside of town...listed over the past two years between 192,000.00-185,000.00..can't get an offer (other than contract for deed).

Anyone want to trade for a 1537? I'll throw in two ponies and a rifle.

Norse(hard times)man1
I'll take it, I just have to sell my house :) . We moved into a pretty nice area about 15 years ago, put in hardwood floors throughout, new windows (34 of them!), re-sided the little bit of siding we have, new roof, new garage door, etc. Roughly put in almost 100k and we would be lucky to get what we paid for the house originally. At one point five or six years ago we probably could have gotten double what we paid, and that was before we did the windows. Times are a tough, that is for sure.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-15 5:52 PM (#386962 - in reply to #386950)
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Michigan? Too far north for me. I'm looking for a place in the mountains of North or South Carolina...maybe Tennessee. Someplace I can drive to.
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2009-12-15 9:22 PM (#386963 - in reply to #386950)
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Here in Jersey, my little (1,064 square feet) ranch with two bedrooms, 1 bath, eat-in kitchen, decent living room and 1-car detached garage on a 100x180 lot cost me about what you're asking for yours, Norsey--and that was before I sunk a lifetime's worth of good guitars into it for repairs; right now, the taxes are up over 6 grand. (And, if I sell it in order to buy yours, the state will assess me an "exit tax" in order to leave.)
One good thing about its' size--it's reached capacity for guitars, so I guess I've reached "one in, one out" like some of the rest of you.

--Karen
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-15 9:30 PM (#386964 - in reply to #386950)
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71 and sunny today in Mesa today....-26 below zero with windchill in Brainerd Minnesota today...how delightful.

Norse( :eek: )man1

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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-15 9:52 PM (#386965 - in reply to #386950)
Subject: Re: OT: North to South...to North?


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...taxes about 1200.00 a year...I know...why leave?
...ever try shoveling one/two/three foot of snow off your sidewalks, driveway,roof, in 10-40 below weather...only to go out and do it again the next day?!

Norse(and cut/split four cords of wood each fall so you can offset the heating costs from Sept.-May)man1
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-12-15 10:06 PM (#386966 - in reply to #386950)
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Below zero most nights last week for the first time in 10 years. Rained all day today (but 15 inches of snow on the mountain means the ski area opens Thursday.)
We built the house about 15 years ago and probably couldn't get more than we spent if we sold it today. We don't need the space, but can't find anything smaller that won't cost more. Things will turn around a bit if you can afford to wait it out.
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-15 10:14 PM (#386967 - in reply to #386950)
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Hey Mark...good to hear from you.

I hear you about prices...about four years ago I toyed with the idea of selling. Several realtors said they could sell it within a matter of weeks if I would sell for about $265.00.

Norse(that "83 Elite 1537" sure would look sweet added to my signature list)man1
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1617
Posted 2009-12-15 10:34 PM (#386968 - in reply to #386950)
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We're all screwed. The train derailed. We did it to ourselves. Used to be folks bought what they could afford and used it forever. My Dad bought a couple acres, built a small house for cash, raised 6 kids - and lived there 'til he died. 60 years later my Mom still lives there - original windows, original footprint - only upgraded the bathroom after Dad died. Can you imagine living in your house for over 50 years without a mortgage. And somehow we got ourselves into a mindset that we always need bigger, better, faster, newer, shinier - ask my Dad what kind of car he drives - "paid for". What's the cure? Sure I did the same thing. My wife and I are sitting here in a 4 bedroom 3 bath with bonus room big beautiful house near the beach that we spent a fortune upgrading - just the 2 of us.

Very busy - but no money.

Whew!!
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-15 10:39 PM (#386969 - in reply to #386950)
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amen brother...you are dead on.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-12-16 12:31 AM (#386970 - in reply to #386950)
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I guess there are still pockets of that around here. Folks who have had homes in their family for generations. The only reason they have mortgages is for improvements and such... but there is a high percentage of folks who just own their home.

Unfortunately it's backfiring a bit. As things get developed, elderly couples who initially spent maybe around a 100K, or maybe their parents or parents parents spent it... or even much less on their several-hundred acre chunk of earth that they raised all their grandkids on... are now retired and having to pay taxes and 1.x million dollar land.... sooo.. they stop paying their taxes and hope that they die before the state, county or whomever can come lock'em up.

Really cuts into the guitar buying funds...
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2009-12-16 6:16 AM (#386971 - in reply to #386950)
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Houses are not too bad in East Tn where I am but the pay around here sucks.
My house there would be around $450 in Florida a few years back and it's not all that big.
2-story, 3 br, 2.5 bath on just under an acre, 1800 sf not including full basement.
My Uncle & Aunt built it for me so I got it cheap (relatively speaking) but houses close to mine run 160 to 200K.
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2009-12-16 6:17 AM (#386972 - in reply to #386950)
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Oops, $450K not $450, jeeze I'm tired.
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FlySig
Posted 2009-12-16 10:08 AM (#386973 - in reply to #386950)
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We never had a huge runup in real estate values here, so the drop has been small, maybe 15% depending on exact location. The city even reduced our property tax assessment this year!

The big financial mistake I made was letting money ride in the stock market 10 years ago. We bought cars and stuff on credit so the money could keep growing in the stock market. When tech stocks crashed in 2000 I finally got out of the market with the same $ I started with, plus a bunch of debt. :rolleyes: We've dug out of that mess just in time to have kids going to college.

Could be worse though. I've been able to buy a few very nice guitars in the past 3 years, and I still have a job with one of the only profitable airlines. All I need now is to fund my retirement somehow.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2009-12-16 6:47 PM (#386974 - in reply to #386950)
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im old school educated and glad of it.i was brought up to save your money and stay in the range of what you can afford to pay for and pay it off as soon as you can.
now as the economy spins i am happy that i listened to mom & dad.
i can see a good retirement coming soon if my plan works out and more guitars :D GWB
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