Guitar Center used Adamas impulse buy thwarted (for now)
kentrookie
Posted 2009-12-13 7:37 PM (#387235)
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So while doing holiday shopping for others I accidentally when into my local guitar center.
In the "used" corner was a immaculate ADAMAS 2080-NWT.
My very first thought was how could she (the guitar ) be placed in such a hostile environment...However being the responsible person I aspire to be,I immediately left (after playing for 20 mins) and resumed my, now delayed, original mission. After all the holiday season is NOT just about me.

After the shopping was complete I just happened to return to GC.
The condition and price of the guitar was right and decided to "just do it".

Card out, palms sweaty, & wondering how I could possibly explain this to SWMBO, got a reality check "time out"....

GC has a 30 day hold on used goods and I can not take possession until it clears the “hot guitar list.”.... @$%^!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-13 7:59 PM (#387236 - in reply to #387235)
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If they think it may be stolen, they have no right to put it out for sale...that's crazy...and leaves them libel....they must me hurting and desperate...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-12-13 8:05 PM (#387237 - in reply to #387235)
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It's standard proceedure when reselling used guitars.....
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-13 8:28 PM (#387238 - in reply to #387235)
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Is the store's name 'eBay Our Way'?

Their liability is definitely hangin' out there. "Whoops, sorry 'bout steppin' thru that plastic git."

I can understand the 30 day wait, but not putting it out 'there'...
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-13 11:18 PM (#387239 - in reply to #387235)
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They "put it out there" to generate interest and presale. It is already "owned" by GC but they are running a check on it. If it got damaged, I am sure that the store's insurance would cover it.

Maybe Kentrookie missed it but at all the GC's I have been to the used stuff has a hold date on the sticker that says when it will be available for sale. If there is not sticker then it is not on hold (unless somebody intentionally removed it trying to beat the system and buy it).....then that's when the computer would catch it at check out.

One of the few things that GC does right in my opinion.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-14 1:32 AM (#387240 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by kentrookie:

Card out, palms sweaty, & wondering how I could possibly explain this to SWMBO, got a reality check "time out"....

GC has a 30 day hold on used goods and I can not take possession until it clears the “hot guitar list.”.... @$%^!
Talk about a great stroke of luck! Now you can easily roll a little bit of money in there every couple of days for the next month, and then put like $200 on your credit card at the end. When you go home, you tell her that you went into the guitar center and all you had to give them $200 and the guitar was yours! You'll look like quite the savvy shopper, and the envy of all the neighborhood bargain chasers!

Me, on the other hand, had to break the unwelcome news today that I "accidentally" bought another guitar. Right before Christmas. Oops.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-14 2:07 AM (#387241 - in reply to #387235)
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Bobbo....did a CJ follow you home?
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G-String in DE
Posted 2009-12-14 2:33 AM (#387242 - in reply to #387235)
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My boyfriend in the states is having this one looked over, it's supposed to be a rare model and he heard that some were made with graphite necks and fretboards, whatever difference that makes. The nice gentleman at the Maryland Guitar Center is checking it over for him, if it's one of the few that were made completely of CG it will be his Christmas Gift. These Ovation guitars are so modern looking..he says they are great, I'll just have to wait and see.
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Meuti
Posted 2009-12-14 3:01 AM (#387243 - in reply to #387235)
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Welcome to the OFC and a hello from next door in Hanau ;)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-12-14 3:14 AM (#387244 - in reply to #387235)
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Hey G! :cool: Welcome

That is the elusive Q!
I am not sure about the graphite neck, but I heard something about that too.
Here is a link to the generic Q model...

But of course we would love a live review.
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-12-14 3:22 AM (#387245 - in reply to #387235)
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It's rare alright!!

AJ
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noah
Posted 2009-12-14 4:25 AM (#387246 - in reply to #387235)
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Welcome G-String.

Your photo looks like an Adamas Q597 (discontinued).
Its squiggly sound holes set it apart from its sibling, the W597.
The Q597 is also listed as having the Advanced Neck System (ANS).



They came in dark gray or cobalt blue.
I have a blue one. It is a very nice playing and sounding guitar.
The neck is wood and it has an OP50 preamp.

Your photo matches a listing from the Guitar Center in Glen Burnie, Maryland... USED OVATION ADAMAS Q597 GRAPHITE (Includes Case).
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noah
Posted 2009-12-14 4:55 AM (#387247 - in reply to #387235)
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I also came across one of these at the Guitar Center by my house on Friday.
It looked new, played great, sounded great.
The tag said USED $999.xx. The salesman said it has a case.




Adamas 2080-NWT
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-14 5:01 AM (#387248 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Bobbo....did a CJ follow you home?
Negative, Ghost Rider. The pattern is full.

G-String -- that is NOT one of the Q guitars with the CF neck and fretboard. As Noah said, it is a production version of the 597 guitar with wavy soundholes. While not a lot of them out there, it is not one of the rare Q models ... that is a different beast altogether.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-12-14 9:27 AM (#387249 - in reply to #387235)
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I've purchased a number of items that were on a "police hold," including an old Gibson I found in the Brookline GC across the street from Boston University while my daughter was attending a meeting. That's what happens when you stroll into a GC during a one-hour free-time break.
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Phil Wong
Posted 2009-12-14 11:19 AM (#387250 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Originally posted by stephent28:
Bobbo....did a CJ follow you home?
Negative, Ghost Rider. The pattern is full.

G-String -- that is NOT one of the Q guitars with the CF neck and fretboard. As Noah said, it is a production version of the 597 guitar with wavy soundholes. While not a lot of them out there, it is not one of the rare Q models ... that is a different beast altogether.
Bobbo "Screw up just this much-- and you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog Sh@T out of Hong Kong"

So what did SantaBobbo buy himself?
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-14 1:12 PM (#387251 - in reply to #387235)
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I've purchased a number of items that were on a "police hold," including an old Gibson I found in the Brookline GC across the street from Boston University while my daughter was attending a meeting. That's what happens when you stroll into a GC during a one-hour free-time break.
Things have obviously changed since I had my shops...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-14 1:40 PM (#387252 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by Phil Wong:
Bobbo "Screw up just this much-- and you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog Sh@T out of Hong Kong"

So what did SantaBobbo buy himself?
Apparently, my better half has seen that movie too. ;)

Well it goes like this ... I put in a stupid low bottom-feeders bid on a Book Elite that was up on eBay. I figured it would have been idiotic for the guitar to go for as cheap as what I bid. Apparently, no one is a bigger idiot than me. Fortunately, someone I know has a good sense of humor ... she said "Well at least you now have the guitar to go with the book". :rolleyes:
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standing
Posted 2009-12-14 2:23 PM (#387253 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
"Well at least you now have the guitar to go with the book". :rolleyes:
I think the books are getting harder to find than the guitars…
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Phil Wong
Posted 2009-12-14 2:24 PM (#387254 - in reply to #387235)
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No crash and burn, Cool!!
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-14 3:54 PM (#387255 - in reply to #387235)
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For that price, you did good my brother!
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FlySig
Posted 2009-12-14 4:50 PM (#387256 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by noah:
I also came across one of these at the Guitar Center by my house on Friday.
It looked new, played great, sounded great.
The tag said USED $999.xx. The salesman said it has a case.




Adamas 2080-NWT
Noah, that's a good price for a mint 2080. I'm lovin' mine more and more every day. The top is so lively and responsive, far beyond what my talents deserve!. I find that I have to make an effort to pull the '07C off the wall rather than the 2080, and that's really saying something.

Strings haven't lasted very long on the 2080, but then I discovered that Sara plays it all the time when I'm not home. I can see now that she'll have to have an Adamas of her own before long (maybe a Kaki King model for graduation).
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1617
Posted 2009-12-14 10:41 PM (#387257 - in reply to #387235)
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I "accidentally" bought a 1621-4 on ebay today. here Put in the stupid low bid like stonebobbo. There's gonna be some splainin' to do. Haven't learned my lesson though as I am "accidentally" following some other auctions.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-12-14 10:54 PM (#387258 - in reply to #387235)
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Gee Mike... I was gonna bid on that one, too!
But I figured that I might win it, I don't need another beater so I didn't. :rolleyes:
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kentrookie
Posted 2009-12-14 11:37 PM (#387259 - in reply to #387235)
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Stonebobbo your suggestion to pay this off at little per week is brilliant... Pro-active creative accounting in action (I love it).....

After reading here and elsewhere about the quality and quanity of used guitars showing up for sale leads me to believe that the guitar market remains pretty soft.
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1617
Posted 2009-12-15 12:07 AM (#387260 - in reply to #387235)
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But the guilt - will you be able to live with yourself?. Its not really lying is it? I mean, the government does it, big business does it, the local school board does it. Here comes the cliff.
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cliff
Posted 2009-12-15 12:17 AM (#387261 - in reply to #387235)
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wot?
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1617
Posted 2009-12-19 2:03 AM (#387262 - in reply to #387235)
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I also came across one of these at the Guitar Center by my house on Friday.
It looked new, played great, sounded great.
The tag said USED $999.xx.

I was intrigued so I went to try this one. It was my first encounter with the 2080. Beautiful instrument in beautiful shape. I have played only a handful of Adami - I lean more towards wood. I took it from its perch on the used instrument stage and went to the quiet acoustic room. The strings were dead and horribly out of tune - could loose a shim but the neck is straight.

I'm not diggin' it. The neck is kinda chunky, the high end is pretty clean, but uneven up and down the neck and up and down the strings. The low E is unnaturally overbearing. For reference I pulled down an OMC that had equally dead strings- I preferred its feel and sound.

Every instrument is not a winner, even in the high end - I've played various OMCs and Claptons and Taylors and whatever - they all were beautiful but only the rare one has "it." The sound, the feel, the vibe, the smell.

I went straight home and played my 1617 -it definitely has "it." I played a 1621 once that had "it." My "book" has 9/10ths of it. That new Koa top cutaway Taylor has "it"- I ramble.

So why do I keep trying to find something better? Why do I waste my time? Go ask Tiger. We're just never satisfied.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-19 2:08 AM (#387263 - in reply to #387235)
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1617....get the OFCII from Al and your search will be over. This one definitely has "IT"!
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1617
Posted 2009-12-19 2:09 AM (#387264 - in reply to #387235)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-19 2:11 AM (#387265 - in reply to #387235)
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What Stephen said. I'll bring mine down to Moodyville in January and let you check it out.
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1617
Posted 2009-12-19 2:18 AM (#387266 - in reply to #387235)
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Looking forward - I'll bring mine to compare. Its amazing that we have nothing better to do than talk guitars on a Friday night.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-19 2:36 AM (#387267 - in reply to #387235)
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I'm letting my fingers rest. I was playing for a few hours tonight. My son got home from college this afternoon and we did a little jamming.
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1617
Posted 2009-12-19 2:41 AM (#387268 - in reply to #387235)
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nice
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-19 7:26 AM (#387269 - in reply to #387235)
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1617....get the OFCII from Al and your search will be over. This one definitely has "IT"!
+2 on Stephen and Bobbo...I love mine...in a collection of World Class guitars, this is on the front row...beautiful instrument!!!
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-19 11:36 AM (#387270 - in reply to #387235)
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In a couple of years the OFCII is gonna be one of those legendary guitars that "you should've been there and grabbed one when you had the chance".

I am stunned by how little hype these have received and that they have actually lasted 6 months before almost selling out.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-19 2:38 PM (#387271 - in reply to #387235)
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Dead on, Stephen. Especially when you consider that these things cost less than the least expensive Collings.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-12-19 2:52 PM (#387272 - in reply to #387235)
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Originally posted by 1617:
Its amazing that we have nothing better to do than talk guitars on a Friday night.
Not so amazing once you get to know us...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-12-19 3:00 PM (#387273 - in reply to #387235)
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Agreed, the OFC II will go down in history as "the one you shoulda got."

The first OFC guitar was a really nice, but added to the 33 originals and 80+ of the 47RI's that's quite a lot of that particular guitar type. There will always be one available someplace or another. But not so with the OFC II. Those puppies are rare and soon to be gone, gone, gone. I seriously doubt you will see many change hands. Maybe none.
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