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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Just got back from taking Patty out for dinner and found da FUD like this... 
It's been my go to git since I adopted it from Andrew in June. It even made the SSSJ with me.
So, what's the 'O' Hive Mind's suggestions/inputs? |
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Location: East Tennessee | Holy Crap!!!!
Iffy, send it to the Mothership. |
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Location: California | Too bad this happened. Is it under warranty? It may be that the amount of glue was not evenly distributed across the base of the bridge. It can be fixed but it will stay the lines somehow cracks at lower string area of the bridge. Let the factory know and they may replace for a new one. |
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| Damn, Johnny, that sux! Call up KK/JB tomorrow, they can make it right. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Better yet, email one of or both of them and send a picture of it and ask why they think this happened. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | GASP .. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Better yet, email one of or both of them and send a picture of it and ask why they think this happened. Ditto that! :eek: |
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Location: SoCal | It seems like out of the 50 or so FD14's built, a relatively high number of them, 3-5, have had this problem over the years. It's interesting.
Call the factory. They can make it right..... |
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| That happened to my 1975 about 10 years ago only not quite as bad. Repair was done under warranty and you can't tell except that the bridge looks a bit new for a guitar that age. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I do recall Andrew said it had been 'home' once before. But I don't what was done to it then. Guess I can give him a call for details.
I'll email John the pics and see if they have an 'history' on it.
Just on a positive note, this is the first git that I have had 'give up' on me. Just too bad it was this one! |
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Location: Pennsylvania | Whoa! Sad to see that. |
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Location: Utah | That'll buff right out. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by hwebster:
Is it under warranty? No, unfortunately not. The warranty only applies to the oririnal owner, which is (maybe) Andrew.
Kim and John already know about it, I'll bet. They don't post here much, but they're always here. |
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Location: ms | super glue. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by FlySig:
buff Big Ugly Fat Fellow (sic)
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Location: Upper Left USA | It's just another risk with Cedar. The glue held - almost too well. That's just something that happens inside the grain of the wood.
Mother will unbolt the neck and make a new Bowl/Top for you. Good time to specify what electronics you want. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | That is just plain Scary! |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | :eek: :( :(
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Location: Right now? | Oh, Iffy ... poor baby! Don't you know you can't bring your guitar into the sauna with you? My condolences ... that's about as bad as my Honolulu Horror ..
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by MWoody:
Good time to specify what electronics you want. Been pondering that... Knowing that a new top will not replicate the ol' mojo, I'm just not sure if I want upgrade the 'tronics at the same time.
I guess we could get into a discussion of 'tronics size vs. bowl volume reduction...
Brett Favre, "Um, I don't know..."
Willa,
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What's a sauna? Florida |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Iffy, that's heartbreaking.
As everyone else has said, you need to send it to Kim for it to be repaired correctly but I hope you have others to play for a while.
I just requested a return authorization for a repair from him and was told to contact him again after the first of next year.
They no doubt still have more work than they can handle right now. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Iffy, I know you tell all of us to "wear it out" but that's taking your own advice to the extreme... :rolleyes:
Call JB/KK tomorrow and they will take care of it... and get a new fave for the immediate future...and be gentle...sorry my friend...
And why exactly did the factory decide to stop using bridge bolts? |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Sorry to see that Johnny!!
Maybe there is something to be said for bolted security.
Good luck!!
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Iffy - DEFINITELY send it to the MS! The same thing happened to my '05 and they fixed it like new. Yours is a bit worse off than mine was, but they should be able to fix it. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Thanx to all for the help and assurances. I sent JB an email with the pics.
Now I'm wondering if a FUD Burst is a possibility...  |
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Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany | :( Man, that's terrible Iffy... What a shock it must have been. I hope everything will turn out into a happy ending for you and the Fud :(
I am wondering if I should lower the stringtension on mine as long as it's resting in the case. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | That makes a second time for that FUD, it was originally DaveO's and if memory serves, the original bridge came off right after it was made. The MS put an oversize bridge on it last time.
I'm not buying the sauna theory, she spent 2 years in Hawaii at better than 80% humidity and two summers in Virginia.
Did you put heaver strings on it than the Elixir mediums that were on it? |
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Location: Vernon CT | Ouch Johnny!!!! That does suck, big time!!
If you want to send it to Mother,have it repaired, I can then pick it up and hold it for you until......... ;) |
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| Iffy, that is terrible! I have seen the work that the MS does, and you can be sure it would look great after you've sent it there. Of course, you probably know that already!
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Location: Sydney, Australia | If the doctors could fix your ankle, the mothership can fix this, with way less pain and hassle. Good luck my friend. |
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Location: Cincinnati | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Thanx to all for the help and assurances. I sent JB an email with the pics.
Now I'm wondering if a FUD Burst is a possibility...
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Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany | :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: |
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Just got back from taking Patty out for dinner and found da FUD like this... Yikes, that's awful! At least you weren't there to hear that sickening sound when it went "sproing." Good luck, Mother will make it feel all better… |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Tim,
I had put on a new set of Elixir meds just prior to the SSSJ. I'm pretty sure it had lights on it when I adopted it. The meds really sound great on the FUD.
Jack,
Thanx! That's very reassuring.
Meuti,
Apparently my FUD has had issues all along. A new top should take care of that.
So, just keep yours in normal tuning, enjoy and forget you saw this post! 
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Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany |  Yes Master! I will forget...
But before I do let me tell you once again, that my thoughts are with you at the moment ;) |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | Iffy, It pains me to see that.
Like tha Banana Splits used to say:
THATS A TRIPLE OOCH! |
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Location: Right now? | G8r ... what's a sauna? FLORIDA. No, wait ... Hawaii!
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Two words...
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | It's just a flesh wound. :D
Sorry Iffy, I couldn't resist. I guess I'm one of those people who cover their sadness with humor. But I AM heartbroken for you. I know how that feels, after having lost my Gibson all those years ago. It still hurts! But at least with yours you know you can get it fixed up better than new. I hope the nightmares subside very soon and you're back to feeling good again. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Duct tape, super glue, buffing...?!?!?
Geeeze... I'm talking' about the FUD, not me! :p
Alison,
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
The meds really sound great on the FUD.
That's an odd concept. Wouldn't the FUD sound better when you are on meds?
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Location: Jet City | Bogus.
Good luck on the repair. I can't even imagine the heartbreak I would have if something like that happened to one of my favs. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | As was said before, the factory will just remove the neck and attach it to a new body and top much like the FD/1614 that I sent back. Just a stupid question though, did you put the ToneRite on that one Johnny? Do you think.....? :confused: |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Just a stupid question though, did you put the ToneRite on that one Johnny? Negative, didn't have to... :( |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Ouch. That's too bad, JC. I love those Fud's too. Swallow hard and do what you have to do... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | JB & KK will fix it up. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by MWoody:
It's just another risk with Cedar. The glue held - almost too well. That's just something that happens inside the grain of the wood.
Ditto Woody +1
This is the true risk with cedar. A few builders (notably Lowden) seem to have exceptional luck and skill with cedar tops but most small builders have gotten away from cedar tops due to warranty issues. |
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Location: nashville | Makes me want to tune my guitars down a whole step. Reminds me of when my Martin fell out of the stand. However it snapped the head almost into.It was my only guitar at the time.
The repair guy Gruhn recommend was unbeliveable and the repair is barely noticable Cost me about $250.00 . That was almost 10 years ago and Sonny has since passed away but it looks like his work will stand the test of time. HOpe your repair will to. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | That's not a nice picture.
My FUD has JUST had the Spa treatment...
Replace top/bowl
Replace bridge
Install elects
Gloss neck!
Level and dress frets
Adjust & set action
String & play test
...now all they have to do is ship it back to me ;)
Sent it to them and let them do their magic. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Well, the MS wizards do their magic again... 
  
What a piece of work! The grain matching is superb. And so help me, I truly think this top has more projection than the old one.
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Location: Michigan | Nice! Glad it worked out for you. John and Kim are da man-s! |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Whoa... That was a long wait. :eek:
But I am happy that you got it all fixed up! :D |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Arthur, it took about 3 1/2 months. Sure beats the rumored six... More than worth the wait.
I loved the ol' top, but this one has more bass presence with sweet clear highs. It's a different, but better sounding FUD. And the wood grain is tight and straight. Just wonderful... Happy camper here!
Hey Mike, likewise! ;) |
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Location: Eugene, OR | Awww....that is soo hard to look at..
I can remember when I rolled over my VW Beetle three times.
When it spun over the third time and all was a-Blurr, the thought came to me....., "I don't think I can fix it this time"..
Though this may leave you thunderstruck, slack-jawed and stupified,
fear not..... It will be great again.
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Paul,
Yes, as per the MS's pre-repair evaluation:
Replace top/bowl assy
Replace bridge
Level & dress frets
Adjust & set action
I'm still very impressed with the sound of this 'new' FUD. It has something special that the ol' one didn't. Maybe it has something to do with the wood under the ol' bridge.  |
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Location: Nashville TN. | btw
wht did they stop usind bolts along with glue.
that always seemed like a great idea. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Well, the MS wizards do their magic again...
What a piece of work! The grain matching is superb. And so help me, I truly think this top has more projection than the old one.
A huge thanx to John B. and the crew! |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I have to wonder though...
since this was not a design problem but, rather, an inherent inability of Cedar to hold up to all that string pull...
might this happen again some day?
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Location: Right now? | Iffy, she looks fabulous! MS 'magic' fer sure. What beauty.
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