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| I'm watching this auction. The seller says it'a an Elite. But, I've never seen an Elite with a bound rosewood fingerboard sans fret markers. He's going to send me a pic of the label. I just can't wait.. :rolleyes: ;)
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Location: Newington, CT | Wow! It's mighty pretty! though I wouldn't pretend to know the answer to your question...And the guy is pretty impressed with its playability...If I had the bucks, I think I might take a flyer on it. |
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| It's a Korean Celeb. You can tell by the shape of the fretboard end. That and the rosewood fretboard. Also, Elites have a 5-piece neck, so a skunk stripe should be visible on the headstock paddle (unless it's a -1 or -5, then the headstock is painted). |
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| G8r, that's what I thought, but the guy says the label says it's an Elite. Also, the saddle says it's a Celeb as well, not even a Pinnacle... |
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Location: Texas | It seems a little odd that you can't see any hint of the label through the soundholes on a shallow body? Hopefully he'll send you better photos that solve that mystery…
Good luck, it seems to be in good condition… |
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| Steve - if he sends you a pic of a label that says "Elite" & "Made in New Hartford, CT" then run - fast - because he's trying to scam you. There's no doubt whatsoever that it's a Celeb. Elites were never made with anything other than spruce tops. That thing's plywood - pretty plywood, but plywood nonetheless. |
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Location: Texas | Hmmm, several comments appeared before I posted that last comment, so I will add my original thought: The soundhole looks photoshopped to me, why would they try to hide a label if it was legit? |
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| G8r, yep, I agree... I sent him a freindly email that I was going to "ask the guys at the Ovation fan club" about it... :) (ALL 5000 of them..) |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | IT'S A SCAM! STAY AWAY! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
This is a classic scam, has all the signs...
1. Terrible spelling
2. Photoshop'd image
3. Inaccurate listing
THIS SHOULD BE REPORTED TO EBAY AS A SCAM ASAP!
Me I have sent the seller this...
"Please send me a close up of the label inside the holes as the image has been edited. I STRONGLY suspect this is a SCAM and will report you to Ebay! They will hunt you down!" |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Well, It comes with a FREE custom hard case, top of the line!!! |
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| Originally posted by dweezil:
THIS SHOULD BE REPORTED TO EBAY AS A SCAM ASAP! Dweez, normally I'd agree with you, but eBay's attitude is generally caveat emptor. As long as the guy ships the guitar pictured, they won't do anything about it. |
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| ALSO....Just saw a nice 1758, starting bid was a $1, and it's no reserve, a red-star seller with a 100% rating.. Hmmmm..this is going on the watch list...(220358460904) |
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Location: East Tennessee | Steve,
Go for the 1758. I'll be up that way in a couple of weeks. I could pick it up for you.
Here's a link;
!758 Elite 12 string |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | G8r - in my experience I've found that Ebay will deal with dodgy listings.
Steve - chomp! |
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| Originally posted by Steve:
Just saw a nice 1758 Now THAT'S an Elite! |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | On the eBay #130286513985
You can see a trace of a label in the left bottom most sound hole, but its pitch black in all the other holes. Hmmmm... No light entering the body even though the flash is dead straight on and the holes are solid black.
Yet in the other Elite the label is clearly visible,
Manipulated image - AVOID |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Don't know if it means anything but, even though he has 43 feedbacks with a rating of 100%, this is the 1st time he's tried selling anything.
All his transactions have been as the buyer.
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Location: Alagoas, Brazil | And he could be buying picks one at a time ;) |
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| Major temptation there Capo Guy...arggghhh... :D
It'll be interesting to see how the Ebay market responds to the 1758...we might get a break on a nice guitar... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | On the first "Elite" he claims that..."New this one retails for over $2000 Bucks"
Nothing in 1993 MSRP'ed over 2K 'cept an Adamas.
That's got some really purdy plywood... Offer him $333.33!
(That's what I sold my Purdy CS257 for... And that is what that is.) |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by Capo Guy:
Steve,
Go for the 1758. I'll be up that way in a couple of weeks. I could pick it up for you.
Here's a link;
!758 Elite 12 string |
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Location: South of most, North of few | yep Bob, I was going to tell you about it going to the bay. |
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Location: Western PA | Inspired by those CSI shows on TV, I did some hi-tech investigating of my own. After downloading the eBay image, Photoshop was used to magnify & sharpen the sound hole area to reveal this:
So relax guys, turns out #130286513985 is a legit Elite afterall! ;) :D
In defense of the seller, it's quite possible he got duped when buying the guitar for himself. Let's hope the scam ends here - Caveat emptor!
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I told the seller that it was a CS257... He said,
"This is the discription I bought it under I will pull the item and email pictures and serial number to ovation to find out what it is"
Of course, the listing is still up there. :p
I really feel for him if he got scammed. And I don't think any 'innocents' would give him $600 or a thousand bucks anyway.
There are too many really nice Real Elites out there for less. |
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| Seller revised the description, no mention of the word "Elite." Still, it's caveat emptor, since he hasn't sent anybody pictures of the apparently blacked-out label, and doesn't call it a Celeb. Very cadgey. |
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| That 1758 is up over $200 already...with 6 days still to go...oh well..it's a nice one..probably go for big bucks even in this economy... |
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| Now over $300 this morning... a very nice guitar with no reserve motivates everybody.. |
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Can it be...