Elixer Nanowebs
gh1
Posted 2009-01-29 6:07 PM (#430812)
Subject: Elixer Nanowebs


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So, i just got another stable mate and it came strung with new Elixer Nanowebs. Never tried them before.

Does anybody else find that it is hard to get a solid purchase on the strings with the fretting hand? My fingers have the tendency to slip right off the strings and when i land solid the connection seems tenuous. Reminds my of those Ovation guitars i used to own that kept slipping off my knee.

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gh1
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Jeff W.
Posted 2009-01-29 6:15 PM (#430813 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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I've always like Nanos and the way they feel. Mmmm Siiiilky.
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BT717
Posted 2009-01-29 6:34 PM (#430814 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I've always like Nanos and the way they feel. Mmmm Siiiilky.
+1
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2009-01-29 6:36 PM (#430815 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-01-29 6:55 PM (#430816 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-29 7:14 PM (#430817 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs
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Originally posted by gh1:
My fingers have the tendency to slip right off the strings
+4

Now put down that buttery crab claw...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-01-29 7:36 PM (#430818 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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buttery crab claw
Johnny, you're killin me....lol

The closest thing to a crab claw around here is Websters or Brittanica...

I grew up on the Chesapeake...I'll never take anything for granted again... :rolleyes:
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dobro
Posted 2009-01-29 7:57 PM (#430819 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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+4

Phosphor Nanos too (on the Adamas 1581-5):

See "Carbon 14" on the first link below.
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Yak
Posted 2009-01-29 8:19 PM (#430820 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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I can live with the slippery feel because it works both ways. Its easier to slide notes and chords on Elixirs. I went to plain uncoated strings for a while, but gave Elixirs another try and really like them. The long life is also a major plus now that Im out of my string experimentation phase.
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muzza
Posted 2009-01-29 8:29 PM (#430821 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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Originally posted by dobro:
+4
We're up to +5 Greg.

My turn...
+6
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lanaki
Posted 2009-01-29 8:35 PM (#430822 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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have tried just about every string available. i keep going back to elixir nanos. +7
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stephent28
Posted 2009-01-29 8:35 PM (#430823 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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I am currently participating in an Elixer beta/string study of their new nanoweb strings. I have no idea what the difference between these and the current for sale strings are but they do sound really good.

The ones Elixer sent me to try out are the phosphor bronze lights 12-53. I have noticed that after about 15 hours of playtime some of the coating is coming off off the middle strings around the first 3 frets.

They still sound very crisp and clear.

When I remove them I have to log onto a website and answer a bunch of questions, give opinions and then send the old strings back.
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gh1
Posted 2009-01-29 8:35 PM (#430824 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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Hmmm, well, anybody want to buy a slightly used set of strings? :)

I gotta tell ya, once these go dead -- if they don't convert me (only been played a few hours) -- i'm going back to D-Ad's and that nice grippy feel.

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FlySig
Posted 2009-01-29 10:04 PM (#430825 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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I just tried Nanos on my electric guitar. Wow, love that slippery feel and the lack of finger noise! On the '07 Collector I just put on Dean Markley Phos/Bnz something or others that sound really really nice. Eventually I'll try the Nanos on the acoustic. So far, the slipperiness is a bonus for me.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-01-29 11:59 PM (#430826 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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I still like Poly's... yeah, one in every crowd.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-30 3:18 AM (#430827 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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+8 (?)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-30 4:49 AM (#430828 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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+9, or do I get a vote for every guitar I have them on?
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alpep
Posted 2009-01-30 8:09 AM (#430829 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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total crap

I don;t know how many times I get a call.

"my tuner does not work right"

do you have coated stings on your guitar?

yes

take them off and put on bronze
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dobro
Posted 2009-01-30 8:34 AM (#430830 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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Taste, brother (like booze, everyone has his poison).

For me it's sweat chemistry: I corrode standard strings too fast, before the gig's done. Seriously.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-01-30 8:36 AM (#430831 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs
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I've never understood the whole "coated string" fancy. How in the hell does covering your strings with some plastic wrap make them sound better? I've tried nanos, exps, whatever and I think they all suck. I use plain old EJ16s at $4 a pop.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-30 8:40 AM (#430832 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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old school
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G8r
Posted 2009-01-30 9:23 AM (#430833 - in reply to #430812)
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Have to say I'm old school, too. I've tried just about every coated string out there & I keep going back to EJ16's. Extra cheap in bulk packs.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2009-01-30 9:27 AM (#430834 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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Originally posted by alpep:
total crap

I don;t know how many times I get a call.

"my tuner does not work right"

do you have coated stings on your guitar?

yes

take them off and put on bronze
On magnetic pick-ups, Al?
I don't see why this would be an issue on an undersaddle and such...
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dobro
Posted 2009-01-30 9:38 AM (#430835 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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Hey, let's take the Temp approach. All y'all who don't get it is "Stupid f*ckers"!
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BT717
Posted 2009-01-30 9:45 AM (#430836 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I've never understood the whole "coated string" fancy. How in the hell does covering your strings with some plastic wrap make them sound better? I've tried nanos, exps, whatever and I think they all suck. I use plain old EJ16s at $4 a pop.
Not trying to knock you there Toby, you are entitled to you opinion. To each his own, right?. I have found and based on the other posts here others feel the same, that for $12.00 a set I/we can get a solid 4-5 months of playing time (real good tone the whole time) (Time I play, 8-10 hours a week) on one set as opposed to changing a $5-6 set of Uncoated strings a min of 4 time in the same time frame. thats atleast $20.00 compared to $12.00 or a 60% savings for me. Again, To each his own! :)
Still love ya anyways! ;)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-01-30 9:52 AM (#430837 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs
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BT - I agree with you. Coated strings will save you money because they last longer. But for me, I just don't like the sound and don't like the feel, so the extra effort and cost of changing more frequenty is worth it. Plus I like changing my strings!
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Patch
Posted 2009-01-30 10:09 AM (#430838 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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My turn to be different.

[list]
[*]A. I prefer the polywebs to the nanos.
B. I also like D'Ads.
C. I like to use different guages.
[/list]

After playing my instruments for a while now (Eat your heart out Trader Jim. :cool: ), I've discovered that I prefer the sound of different strings on different guitars. It can actually get obsessively complicated, but I like what I hear. For example:

[list]
[*]1. I put Medium Polywebs on my 97 Collector's. It adds volume to a guitar I primarily finger-pick in open tunings. They have a very mellow tone that seems to "fit" the aesthetics of a guitar that reminds me of instruments built in the 1800s. Even so, I have a set of silk-and-steel Martins waiting for the next string change courtesy of some previous comments on this forum.
2. I put light polywebs on my 2001 Collector's. They give the guitar an almost baritone-like resonance when finger-picked or strummed. They also serve to further differentiate its tone from the rest of my collection. This guitar is a real standout from my others soundwise, and sometimes I just want to here that particular sound.
3. It's medium phosphour-bronzes for the Ute. maybe it's the textured top, but the brassiness of this combination and the resulting sustain (It's nearless endless!) put this one in a category by itself. And again, at times, it's exactly what I feel like listening to.
4. Light D'Ads go on the 87 Collector's and the 1537. For those times when you need to blow a sonic whole through the mix (or the wall).
5. Light polywebs for the 2002 Collector's. I really like the subdued, yet confident tone evoked by this combo.
6. I keep one 12-string strung with light polywebs to keep it from getting too bright.
7. I put Martin light silk-and-steels on the other 12 for a very warm, folksy tone that really suits certain songs.
[/list]

I haven't exactly settled on strings for my others yet. But I'm working on it, if you get my drift. ;)

All in all, I consider strings another way of broadening my tonal pallet. I feel you can really zero in on the exact quality your looking for from one piece of music to another.

So how's that for "too much information"?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2009-01-30 10:25 AM (#430839 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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80/20 Bronze for me.
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dobro
Posted 2009-01-30 10:35 AM (#430840 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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"It's medium phosphour-bronzes for the Ute. maybe it's the textured top, but the brassiness of this combination and the resulting sustain ..."

+1 on phosphor for textured-top Adamas!
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Mitchrx
Posted 2009-01-30 10:37 AM (#430841 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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The original custom light (.011-.052) Nanowebs are my favorite strings. I don't like the newer phosphor bronze though. I can understnd someone not taking to the slippery feel. EXP's are very grippy.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-30 10:39 AM (#430842 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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I used to play Elixir medium poly's on all my 6 steel strings (sounds like I've got a lot -- not!). Now it's Elixir phos/bronze. Mediums on the rebuilt Legend and lights on everything else. They don't feel like coated strings, cost 2-3 times more than uncoated strings and last 3-5 times longer......
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-30 11:26 AM (#430843 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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I feel so unworthy. For awhile I just used the extra sets that always seemed to come when I bought a new guitar. The 04CL came with Elixirs, but I can't remember what kind. The only thing I didn't like about them was I couldn't seem to wear them out and I wanted to change them to see if I liked something else better.
I've got bunches of free sets of D'Adds and a couple of sets of Adamas that Miles raffled off. I don't change strings enough, but I don't play enough either.
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Bernard
Posted 2009-01-30 11:47 AM (#430844 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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My string testing period is over ( for a while)

Martin SP (the ones whit bronze steel 1st and 2nd) are the ons I keep comming back to.

Elixir are nice to but I did not like the peel off of the coating.

Anyways it's fun to try différent strings to see the how your guitar can soud différent.

Keep on playing !
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Steve
Posted 2009-01-30 11:59 AM (#430845 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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I'll have to try the Martin SP's... it's been a while since I used those.
+12 on the Nanos, except the Rohrbacher Titanium are also excellent, but expensive.
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muzza
Posted 2009-01-30 6:19 PM (#430846 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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Originally posted by Bernard:
Martin SP are the ons I keep comming back to.
Isn't it amazing how different we all are? I went through a dozen Martin SPs on different guitars and didn't like them at all. D'Adds are my uncoated strings of choice

I like the economy of Elixers. My beater at work has had them on for 7 months now and they're still bright. I reckon new Elixirs sound like 2 day old D'Adds.
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gh1
Posted 2009-02-06 6:10 PM (#430847 - in reply to #430812)
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Ahhhh! finally took those P'soS off my new guitar and put on my std EJ16's -- perfection! Heck this guitar is screaming for mediums. Maybe next set.

i don't know how you folks that like those coated strings do it. But, oh well, to each his own, as "they" say. i am definitely not their target market.

Cheers all!

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gh1
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-06 6:15 PM (#430848 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs
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Originally posted by gh1:
Ahhhh! finally took those P'soS off my new guitar and put on my std EJ16's -- perfection! _____
gh1
BINGO.
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MOH_Petec
Posted 2009-02-07 11:13 AM (#430849 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs


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What about Cleartone strings?
http://www.cleartonestrings.com/
They looks really nano-coated not as Elixirs nanowebs.
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FlySig
Posted 2009-02-07 12:01 PM (#430850 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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I have really liked the ClearTone strings on a mid depth bowl 6778LX. They sounded nearly as good as uncoated. I'd say they are 99% compared to uncoated strings.
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Beal
Posted 2009-02-07 3:55 PM (#430851 - in reply to #430812)
Subject: Re: Elixer Nanowebs



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I don't like them.
Regular old Daddario EJ17s or 16s for me. My body chemistry does not kill strings.
The coating just makes them last longer.
I do use them on a National when I'm using a slide but that's the only place.
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edensharvest
Posted 2009-02-07 5:18 PM (#430852 - in reply to #430812)
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I usually go with the EXP16's, as they just do it for me. Elixirs are too slick and sound brittle to me.

I tried a set of GHS that I really liked on my Tacoma - I think it was their coated ph/b - and that was very nice, and for less than the EXP's.

I bought a set of Elixirs for my 1869 when they first really came out big in the late 90's, and immediately had to have a fret job...took that as a sign. On the other hand, my 12-string always was strung with them, and they sounded great.

As a side note, I have a set of D'ad XL nickel lights on my Viper which I keep trying to wear out so I can change them and simply can't! Gotta say I'm a fan of D'Addario strings.
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Auriemma
Posted 2009-02-12 8:32 AM (#430853 - in reply to #430812)
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Well, like I said in another post, my baby (Elite-T) is back with a fresh setup and Elixir Nano Phosphur/Bronze 10s. Keep in mind I have had EXP16 (12s) on her since I got her. My Celeb has Martin SP Phospur/Bronze 10s.

The Nanowebs are very different than the others. We you guys said they were slick, I had no idea. Now I do. I kinda like it. Less sting squeak. She is a bit brighter, but sweeter sounding. I like it.

Makes me wonder about polywebs.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2009-02-12 11:03 AM (#430854 - in reply to #430812)
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Originally posted by auriemma:
Makes me wonder about polywebs.
The Polywebs have a much thicker coating which peels off at the areas where a pick hits the strings. It doesn't effect the sound but makes the strings look worn. I think that's the reason that the thinner Nanoweb coating was developed.

The real issue with Elixir strings, other than the slippery feel, is that when you first put them on they don't sound as bright as new uncoated strings. The uncoated strings will lose that bright sound quickly, whereas the Elixirs will maintain a close to new string sound for a long time.
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Hossman21
Posted 2009-02-12 12:05 PM (#430855 - in reply to #430812)
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+ 10


I/we can get a solid 4-5 months of playing time (real good tone the whole time)
I agree whole heartedly

Hoss
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sycamore
Posted 2009-02-24 8:35 AM (#430856 - in reply to #430812)
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I just took the plunge - putting Nanowebs on the Applause after years of just asking for a light gauge set and taking whatever brand the shop has. At 3 times the price, they'd better be good.

The guy who sold me the Pacemaker gave me a set of Elixir 10's for that and I like them.
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WCL
Posted 2009-02-24 10:48 AM (#430857 - in reply to #430812)
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I'm in love with Elixirs myself; it's all I've used for several years now, and mostly because that's what Taylor puts on their guitars, but I've found that they sound just as good on my angel-stepped Elite :p
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Yak
Posted 2009-02-24 9:51 PM (#430858 - in reply to #430812)
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Originally posted by Yak:
I can live with the slippery feel because it works both ways. Its easier to slide notes and chords on Elixirs. I went to plain uncoated strings for a while, but gave Elixirs another try and really like them. The long life is also a major plus now that Im out of my string experimentation phase.
Ehhh... Changed my mind. For some reason I wasn't diggin' the tone from my last Elixir Nano PB string change. Went back my favorite Martin SP's and GHS Boomers (electric).

I prefer the tone and feel of non-coated. At leaast for now.
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