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Location: Orange County, California | I was burglarized over the weekend and lost my koa slothead and my 1763. Both in cases.
police report and insured, but still... I've had the classical half of my life. And i don't think the Koa could be replaced. I hope they try to pawn it. there is no way it would go unnoticed. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Stinks! Seriously stinks.
Here's hoping they find'em! |
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Location: Utah | Can you post pics & serial #'s in case they show up on ebay or craigslist. |
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Location: SoCal | Oh man.... Call me if I can help.... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Which KoaLAVa did you have Fred?
12 or 14 FTB?
I think Al still has a 14 ftb for sale. Sorry to hear |
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Location: Lebanon, TN | Commiserations. Will watch the usual places for them Fred. The KoaLAV should be easy to spot, the 1763 maye harder, so if you do have some other info to help us watch out? |
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Location: Orange County, California | The KOA is #4 S/N 613754. 12 fret. The 1763 has one "ding" in the face half way between the bridge and the binding towards the end pin on the treble side maybe 3" from the edge. It is an FRG too. S/N 459413
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Location: New Hartford CT | Fred, I know what you're going through and there will be sleepless nights ahead. There are things you must do right away and the first one is a post on the OFC, check.
I was robbed and 2 Ovations, a Millenium and my late Dad's#698 shiny bowl DB, were stolen in Aug 2011. Through a combination of diligence and dumb luck both have been recovered. A simple post here ultimately led me right to them. If you do a search on Deluxe Balladeer the thread should still be up. A friend told me to put up a post here and one thing led to the next.
I hope by the time I write this you have already miraculously recovered your guitars. If not, here's what I learned.
1. Assume the police are computer illiterate in this area. Sorry, but that was the case in my situation. Conduct your own investigation using all the new technology available. Persistence is key.
2. Don't assume it's someone you know who knew the guitars were there. Keep an open mind about what may have happened.
3. Tell everyone you know about what happened and listen to their ideas. You never know where you may discover a keen insight.
4. Don't give up
Fred, best of luck and I sincerely hope you find your guitars especially the 1763 classical. Please keep us 'posted'. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Fred, that's awful. I hope you find them (and undamaged). |
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Location: Texas | Fred, You probably already know this, but there are a couple ways to search each day, in case the thieves try to turn them... Search Tempest is one of the search engines that hit craigslist and ebay http://www.searchtempest.com/ And Google can narrow searchs to 24 hr time frames. Pawn shops...uggg...but as a victim, they can be your friend, in that they bring the guitars to the surface, but it is impossible to monitor them and most pawn shops know when a special instrument comes in and have "buyers" for the nice stuff...that in turn sell it on the secondary market. My heart goes out to you...good luck in your recovery effort. |
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Location: Chicago | Unbelievable. As one who's been through it (1981: all band equipment jacked) I can only hope that networking will help, given the "modern" circumstances. One of your axes may very well turn up on C-List or Ebay... Thieves DO get nabbed that way. Pullin' for you. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Sad. But they are distintive guitars and would be fairly hard to move without drawing some attention.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Fred, are you sure you didn't sell them ?
Sorry - that was a bad attempt at humor that only a few here will recall. Anyway, my heart bleeds for you but we'll all keep an eye out. It's like trying to hock a rembrandt. Not too many places you can go with this kind of stuff. |
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Location: California | Sorry to hear that. We will keep an eye on these guitars.
I am going to insure mine, take pictures and keep records of s/n's. Learn from this unfortunate experience.
Fred, wish you find them soon.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Fred, very sorry to hear about this and hope that they are recovered soon...I had all my stage equipment (except guitars which I kept in my hotel room) stolen in 1978 from a stage in Peoria Illinois...$8,000 in 1978 dollars...unfortunately, nothing was recovered...amps, PA, keyboards, effects, etc. Hopefully there will be a good ending to this...
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | (Fred, are you sure you didn't sell them ?
Sorry - that was a bad attempt at humor that only a few here will recall. Anyway, my heart bleeds for you but we'll all keep an eye out. It's like trying to hock a Rembrandt. Not too many places you can go with this kind of stuff.)
I am one of the few who remember this...the painters did it then maybe they're back? |
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Location: NJ | Fred
sorry for your loss
if you want a 14 fret koa e me and we can work something out
the 14 fret guitars are just as spectacular but maybe slightly lower sound volumne |
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Location: Utah | Do check the pawnshops yourself. A friend had her equipment stolen, including a custom electric violin which was very identifiable like your Koa. The police were useless in checking the logsheets which the pawnshops are required to file. Her boyfriend found her violin and a Fender amp a couple of months later at a local pawnshop. The police just don't make these kinds of crimes a priority. |
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Location: Texas | FLy, The police just don't make these kinds of crimes a priority. Most decent size PD's do have a couple guys assigned to pawn shops, some even have a division...but the trouble is, the volume of stolen items they have to look for. Bikes, guitars, stereos, tvs (do they still call them tv's?), guns, jewelry, coins, tools, silverware, etc....When you have 10-100+ burglaries a day, depending on where you live, pawnable items become insurmountable for the manpower assigned, in terms of the # of pawn shops + pawnable items and keeping track of what to look for. Some departments collect all pawn shop tickets each day. But it is still an overwhelming task for some entities to stay on top of. And you're right, the other side of the coin is, for what ever reason, be it resources or attitude or some departments think that most cases are covered by insurance and the victim will be made whole again,...unless they stumble across it, they do not actively look for it. |
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Location: Flahdaw | The PD's are way too busy where I live staking out my neighborhood to see whether people are committing a "rolling stop" at the one stop sign in the entire subdivision....... (yeah, I got caught, in case you're wondering) |
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Location: Texas | Bob.
So they overlooked the solicitation thing for a rolling stop? |
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Location: Flahdaw | No, I also got an "indecent exposure" ticket. Who knew you couldn't drive around in your own vehicle naked??? |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | darkbarguitar - 2012-11-28 5:01 PM
The PD's are way too busy where I live staking out my neighborhood to see whether people are committing a "rolling stop" at the one stop sign in the entire subdivision....... (yeah, I got caught, in case you're wondering)
I got a ticket last week for rolling thru two stop signs that were close together. I saw the cop after the second one. All I could think to say was "Why didn't you stop me at the first one I rolled thru?". He thought it was so funny he only gave me a warning for that one. Nice guy... I guess. |
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Location: Utah | amosmoses - 2012-11-28 4:45 PM
FLy, The police just don't make these kinds of crimes a priority. Most decent size PD's do have a couple guys assigned to pawn shops, some even have a division...but the trouble is, the volume of stolen items they have to look for
This was the Salt Lake City police, and yes they do have serious crimes to investigate. In this case it was frustrating because my friend and her fiance went to the pawnshop and got all of the info which the seller had given, which here by law includes a drivers license. Turns out it was the drug dealing scum in a rental house across the street. But the dl was expired so the police totally brushed it off saying something about computer data bases. This would have been an easy bust which they ignored. It may well have been the philosophy she was insured and would get her equipment replaced. |
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Location: Orange County, California | All I want for Christmas is ONE of my guitars back... |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | How does an instrument that unique just up and disappear? Like I said before, it stinks....
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Location: NJ | I still have 14 fret koa guitars if interested |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Fred, 2 years and no news? I was wondering how I missed the first page of this and then realized it happened in 2012 and most everyone except Fred forgot about it. I hope there's a happy ending to this story and it's not still dragging on years from now. |
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Location: south east Michigan | There's so many unique things nowadays that something unique doesn't stand out like it used to.
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I know how I'd feel if my guitars went missing.
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Location: Orlando, FL | Fred I feel your pain, I wish Santa would bring back the 1538 I had stolen last year.
There's a special place in hell for guitar thieves! |
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Location: Orange County, California | If I "could" replace them I would. The 1763 was the first guitar I ever bought and paid for with my own money. It went through a ****-ton of life with me and Although it was loaned a bit, it was never far from home or gone too long. The single flaw, was a ding in the top, easily repairable, made by my daughter when she was two. I left it, and told her she was going to get it WITH THE DING SHE PUT IN IT someday.
The LAV-Koa was the 3rd Guitar that followed me home from an OFC get together. Thanks to the generosity of Noah for loaning me the deposit, understanding and dad-like wisdom when I was almost stupid enough to sell it. That fact that Al made it happen for us, and I was in the right place at the right time for #4 is simply not a coincidence. It was, from the first time I saw it, marvelous, and special to me. I know exactly where and by whom it was made, and had no anxiety about sending it "home" for a little adjustment. I could talk for hours about the materials and workmanship that went into it. It played better than I could at church (my sound guy LOVED IT). It was loaned to a friend for a recording and I can clearly hear every note in the track. He has many really nice guitars, but wanted it's "Unique Voice" for something.
I'm sorry to be blathering. I picked up a cheap guitar (with a missing 1st string) at a friend's house and played for the first time in two years yesterday. So much happened last year, I thought I'd never miss them. I should probably hit up the adoption agency so I have something to play regularly. |
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Location: Seacoast NH | 71Jasper - 2012-12-04 8:14 AM The insurance settlement was the down payment on my first house. Things sometimes work out. Too right. When I was about 18 I walked out of a friend's apartment building and my car was gone. They must've really needed a ride to steal that beat up old VW Rabbit... Didn't really care about the car, it was my camera bag and Washburn acoustic I had in it that I cared about.Anyways, to make a long story short, I ended up getting insurance money for the car and belongings and went looking for a replacement guitar. Went to a music store in Acton, MA that was going out of business. After trying out a few wood boxes the guy says "You should try this one, sounds awesome and I'll give you a silly good deal on it.", and 5 minutes later I walked out with my Elite 6768 that still sounds as good today as it did 21 years ago. And there began my love affair with Ovation guitars...sometimes things do happen for a reason. But it still sucks being a victim of this crap, and I wish you the best of luck in tracking down your guitars.
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Fred listed the the LAV-Koa here for sale once ago. I remember that because it has a very nice wood grain pattern, I felt in love with immediately.
I've tried to find some Pics here but without success. Maybe somebody else has better luck on that.
Fred, that is bad news, hopefully you will get them back in good shape.
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Location: Yokohama, Japan | Gosh...that is gorgeous. Even the inside of the bowl is pristine. My heart goes out to you mtnbikerfred. |
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Location: Seacoast NH | Wow, that's a stunner! |
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