At last - Kaki's guitar
Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-18 4:34 PM (#465473)
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Wondering since it was announced, if I should buy one or not, with already having way too much guitars, today I pulled the trigger on a 1581-KK for a ridiculous price.

Since I love Kaki's music since her first album, having all her cd's and the same initials, I felt the urge to buy it. Again and again. Now I can't await the arrival of Dave's daughter's guitar.

 

Pictures will follow, if interested.

 

Happily,

Kurt

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TAFKAR
Posted 2013-02-19 3:25 AM (#465520 - in reply to #465473)
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Well done. Always interested in pictures.
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Damon67
Posted 2013-02-19 10:08 AM (#465538 - in reply to #465473)
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Congrats on the new KK Kurt, and that's too cool about the initials. Oh, and please disregard the gender comment on the other page. I'm sure it looks very manly on you!
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-20 1:33 PM (#465595 - in reply to #465473)
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<p>Today it arrived, and from the first try (with factory/store worn strings) I'm very pleased. Depthwise I am not sure, but ii is definitely deeper than a regular mid depth bowl and possible as deep as a regular Adamas deep bowl. After hanging in the store for so long the fingerboard was dry like the Nevada, so I gave her an oil bath, new strings and some other cosmetic goodies, now she is waiting for getting played. More pics tomorrow! Best regards, Kurt</p>

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Damon67
Posted 2013-02-20 2:01 PM (#465596 - in reply to #465473)
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that looks like a deep bowl to me.

gorgeous pictures kurt! please do put up more, I always enjoy your work
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Highway61
Posted 2013-02-20 2:10 PM (#465597 - in reply to #465596)
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damon67 - 2013-02-20 2:01 PM

that looks like a deep bowl to me.

gorgeous pictures kurt! please do put up more, I always enjoy your work


Yes, I'm seconding this.

And congratulations!

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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-20 2:14 PM (#465598 - in reply to #465473)
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Thank you!!! Let's wait til tomorrow for more pics, in the old world it's already dark.

I'll take pictures of the inside at well; I am too interested in the bracing. And if there is a difference to the 1581.

Best regards,
Kurt
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FlySig
Posted 2013-02-20 8:52 PM (#465604 - in reply to #465473)
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Kurt, Kaki is selling some of her personal gear on eBay. So far nothing I am dying to have but who knows what will come up.

http://myworld.ebay.com/kakiking12345/&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2754
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-21 11:32 AM (#465632 - in reply to #465473)
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Thanks, FlySig. Seems to be that everything has been sold. And the last one available... I'm overchallenged enough with six strings.

 

Maybe I'll ask Dave to force his daughter to send me an autograph. Maybe.

 

 

Okay, I took some more pics:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Glad they have come back to Schaller's on their higher priced guitars:

 

I have never been a big fan of rosewood fingerboards, but the grain on this one is fabulous!

 

Bracings: Al said, that the KK should have heavier braces than the regular 1581.

alpep - 2013-02-20 12:39 AM braces are a little heavier to endure playing the top like a bongo

Can't back him up on this when comparing the 1581 Reissue...

 

...with the 1581-KK:

 

 

Depth of the bowl - if no regular deep Bowl, as stated on the homepage, then it's definitely deeper than a regular mid-depth bowl. Maybe according to the Supsension ring?

 

 

 

 

 

Didn't find the time to play it too much, but it sounds wonderful - like an Adamas should. And I like the D-Shape of the neck, not as chunky as the V-Shape of the original Adamas II, and more close to those on our Slothead Reissues. As well I think it's a little bit lighter in weight than my other amplified Adamaii.

 

Best regards,

Kurt 

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marenostrum
Posted 2013-02-21 11:50 AM (#465635 - in reply to #465473)
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Kurt, congrats for your new guitar. I should say I like them both.
Tell us if you notice some evident sound difference....
You German OFCers have a bunch of wonderful instruments there (Bernie ?) right ?
Maybe one day we will meet up to exchange opinions without the help of computers. Whatever, the forum is a great help. Beautiful pics.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2013-02-21 1:12 PM (#465640 - in reply to #465473)
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Very nice. Also very efficient use of wall space. Maybe I'll copy that after the next move.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-21 1:19 PM (#465641 - in reply to #465473)
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Yep, I'd wish, I had more walls, then I'd have some more guitars.

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stephent28
Posted 2013-02-21 1:25 PM (#465643 - in reply to #465473)
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Great pics Kurt. Look forward to hearing your thoughts in a couple weeks.....or sound clips!
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Damon67
Posted 2013-02-21 2:04 PM (#465648 - in reply to #465473)
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Those last two picures.... very clever!
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FlySig
Posted 2013-02-21 2:07 PM (#465649 - in reply to #465473)
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You already have her autograph. She hand signs the labels.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-21 2:11 PM (#465650 - in reply to #465473)
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But she forgot to write "To King Kurt from Kaki King". Dunno why.
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FlySig
Posted 2013-02-21 2:25 PM (#465651 - in reply to #465473)
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When she plays a show near you go see her. She is very personable. She wrote a nice note for my daughter Sara on a poster.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2013-02-21 2:32 PM (#465652 - in reply to #465473)
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Good thing you weren't around when I last visited Munich. I might still be there.
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stephent28
Posted 2013-02-21 3:08 PM (#465655 - in reply to #465473)
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That's true. It is hard to get rid of Mark once he nests.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2013-02-21 4:28 PM (#465658 - in reply to #465473)
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Stephen had to give me a guitar to get me to leave. First he threatened to record me, but that scared me more than he knew. Generally, I stay until after closing time. That's what Karl and I did in Rottenburg. Best 4 hour gig I ever had. (It was my only gig, but it was still a great time.)
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Posted 2013-02-22 8:46 AM (#465683 - in reply to #465635)
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maremagnum - 2013-02-21 6:50 PM

Kurt, congrats for your new guitar. I should say I like them both.
Tell us if you notice some evident sound difference....
You German OFCers have a bunch of wonderful instruments there (Bernie ?) right ?
Maybe one day we will meet up to exchange opinions without the help of computers. Whatever, the forum is a great help. Beautiful pics.


+1

Kurt, can't wait to read about a comparison of this two guitars.

When I have well-regulated my personal circumstances, I will prepare a new OFC-Europe-Meeting, but it's too late for this year. I hope in 2014....

Bernie
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jay
Posted 2013-02-22 3:19 PM (#465696 - in reply to #465641)
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Drooling...

Like a stalker, I noticed that you have a Shiny Classic... I have patiently waited a long time to get one and I guess everyone has a tight grip on the ones that are out there.

So.........since you do have one, Kurt, can you share with me if they have a deeper fuller classical response than a typical deep bowl nylon?

Thanks

jay

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jay
Posted 2013-02-22 4:26 PM (#465699 - in reply to #465473)
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wow...that was supposed to be a PM to Kurt....
I think I have become my dad.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-22 5:47 PM (#465702 - in reply to #465699)
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Hi Jay, sorry, but I have to dissapoint you: the shiny bowl is a Josh White Reissue, so - steel string.

My only nylon is the black Country Artist you can see on one pic, and this is no shiny bowl.
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Highway61
Posted 2013-02-24 9:44 AM (#465736 - in reply to #465473)
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Photographs--as well as this thread, in general--are excellent. Still looking forward (with great anticipation) to your thoughts, once you have had some time to play the guitar.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-02-26 7:20 PM (#465808 - in reply to #465473)
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Okay, now that I've played it til my fingers hurt - and don't believe in an Adamas to open up too much - I have to say: it's an Adamas. Adamas textured top. To be more precise: It's a 1581 with bass soundholes only. No big difference to my 1581 RI, if theres a difference anyway.

Played them side by side, and only difference I could hear is the "age" of the strings. More or less the same, soundwise. The KK seembs to rumble a little more, seems to be a little bit more percusive, but that could be the strings or the normal difference between handmade guitars of the same model.

 So it's only cosmetics. Besides the neckshape and the smooth binding on the KK, which makes it a little bit more comfortable. And electronics, which I don't care about, since I am playing unplugged most of the time.

The KK seems to be a little lighter in weight; could be the electronics.

What would I buy, if I would have none of them? Can't say.

The regular 1581 has the familiar look, walnut fingerboard, epaulettes, the wonderful three-layer-headstock, "carved" binding and as Reissue model the beloved Two-Knob-Preamp, the KK has a more technical look combined with a wonderful rosewood fingerboard, black glossy headstock and a more modern Preamp with on-board tuner. And a built-in head gasket for a three cylinder engine.

Not too easy. What I can say: I love the KK. Great guitar!

 

 

 

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bburg
Posted 2013-02-27 1:36 AM (#465814 - in reply to #465473)
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Kurt, thank you very much for your detailed review. Very helpful for somebody who is interested in those guitars....

Bernie
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Highway61
Posted 2013-02-27 2:31 AM (#467814 - in reply to #465473)
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Thank you very much.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2013-03-15 11:21 PM (#468369 - in reply to #465473)
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Good Stuff Kurt!
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popcritic
Posted 2013-03-21 3:09 PM (#468622 - in reply to #465473)
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Kurt, I'm Kaki's dad and I want to thank you for buying her signature 1581. In may be several months before I see her again, but I promise that I'll get a personalized autograph for you.

She's on tour in France right now, and the closest she'll get to Germany is Rotterdam, I think:

http://www.kakiking.com/tour

I'd be interested to know what you think about the guitar "plugged in". As you know, the 1581kk has many virtues, but for me its finest quality is the overwhelming volume, range and tone it produces when amplified.

Finest regards---

Dave King
Kaki's dad

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kessel
Posted 2013-03-26 7:26 PM (#468900 - in reply to #468622)
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popcritic - 2013-03-20 9:09 PM
She's on tour in France right now, and the closest she'll get to Germany is Rotterdam, I think:


I missed her concert here in Hamburg the last two times and I do always regret it when I hear her songs, next time she's coming to Germany I must go see her playing live. She's my favorite guitar player - men included - because she's more than just a guitar player, also a very good composer and allround musician. One of my main musical influences, even when it's not easy to hear it in my own songs

BTW, the Adamas 1581 Kaki King signature is surely going to be my next guitar. I did sell my Ovation 2078 Elite just thinking on purchasing the Adamas 1581 next to it. Now there are some good offers for the 1581 here in Germany and I hope I can save the money for one of these before they're gone or get again too expensive for me.

Congrats Koenig Kurt for your new one, really nice on that pics.
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Damon67
Posted 2013-03-27 12:00 PM (#468918 - in reply to #465808)
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Koenig Kurt - 2013-02-26 5:20 PM

 

The KK seems to be a little lighter in weight; could be the electronics.

 

 

Do you know if the bowls are the same material/construction? 



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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-03-27 1:08 PM (#468919 - in reply to #468918)
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Bowl is molded as on the 1581RI. If it is one of the lighter weight bowls as used on the LX-models? I don't know. In the meantime I am quite sure it's the electronics.


Dave, I'd really appreciate your kind offer! Will soon PM you my adress!!!


Kesselhaus, just saw your PM, will answer immediately.
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Damon67
Posted 2013-03-27 6:31 PM (#468928 - in reply to #465473)
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Must be the gold sparkles on the top of the 1581ri that weigh it down
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kessel
Posted 2013-03-30 3:15 PM (#469026 - in reply to #468622)
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popcritic - 2013-03-20 9:09 PM
I'd be interested to know what you think about the guitar "plugged in". As you know, the 1581kk has many virtues, but for me its finest quality is the overwhelming volume, range and tone it produces when amplified.


I'd be interested to know that too. I've had an Ovation 2078 Elite TX, and I liked the sound when amplified, but is it the same pre-amp on the 1581-KK? The 2078 is much cheaper than the 1581...
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popcritic
Posted 2013-04-30 10:43 AM (#470028 - in reply to #468919)
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Kurt, I have something from Kaki for you. PM your mailing address (be complete, I'm mailing from the U.S.).

Here's a nice review of a recent show she did in Washington D.C.:

http://tinyurl.com/cma3fp8

Note his comment about her 1581kk's "exquisite tones".

Finest regards--

Dave K.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-04-30 11:09 AM (#470031 - in reply to #465473)
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Dave, that's awesome news - THANK YOU!!! PM will follow immediately.

 

And I hope, Kaki will tour in the nearer future through Germany again.

 

According to *my* Kaki guitar: Doesn't open up with playing, just as I expected from a carbon guitar, but still sounds great, as it did right out of the box! Lowered the strings on this one not to much, so you can strum it hard as well - sounds fine, no matter, what you play. Bossanova as well as Cowboy chords, fingerpicking, classical... What I really like about it in comparison to my other Adamai are the smooth edges. Binding on the regular 158x/168/ looks better, but while playing in a T-Shirt, those smoothened edges are a great "enhancement".

 

I really love this guitar!

 

Best regards,

Kurt

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Posted 2013-05-01 2:15 PM (#470086 - in reply to #465473)
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NOW... post some good audio of KK playing his KK!! Do it.
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Posted 2013-06-10 9:51 AM (#472432 - in reply to #465473)
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Those are pretty I played when the first came out.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-06-16 8:48 AM (#472590 - in reply to #465473)
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GOT IT!!!

 

 

Dave, thank you so much, that's awesome! And thanks a lot to your daughter - for the gift and for her music!!!

Can't await to see her live!

 

Thanks again, best regards to you and your family,

Kurt

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Posted 2013-06-16 8:47 PM (#472604 - in reply to #472590)
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Very Classy.
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popcritic
Posted 2013-06-30 6:42 PM (#473013 - in reply to #472604)
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Someone in Paris just posted this excellent video from her show there in March. It appears to have been made at the foot of the stage with the sound coming off the stage monitors:

http://www.parisbeam.com/?p=2769

Finest regards to Kurt and everyone else--

Dave King
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Posted 2013-07-02 2:28 PM (#473084 - in reply to #465473)
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The Kaki has a sharp look and (as I can tell) a fantastic sound. I know the 1581 best of all as my go-to guitar, so WOW. The only setback in the entire package is the fat outline of the epaulettes. I'd love to own a Kaki, but might consider a slight modification of that feature. What's your position? (I realize it's part of the whole "signature" concept... but still...) I could see a thinner design around the "bubbles" made of a light wood.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2013-07-11 10:14 AM (#473292 - in reply to #473013)
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popcritic - 2013-07-01 1:42 AM Someone in Paris just posted this excellent video from her show there in March. It appears to have been made at the foot of the stage with the sound coming off the stage monitors: http://www.parisbeam.com/?p=2769 Finest regards to Kurt and everyone else-- Dave King

 

Didn't see this til now - great as always! And I love her new album since the first time I was listening to it.

Thanks for posting, Dave!

Best regards,

Kurt

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