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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 1498
Location: San Bernardino, California | While looking for the lubricants for my turntable I came across this site, which is where I bought a lube kit for my Dual 1229. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Interesting site...Thanx !
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750
Location: Boise, Idaho | Thanks. I was looking for a new Shure stylus to play the Going to the Dogs album. I haven't used the turntable in years and it has been quite a challenge finding a new stylus. Seems they're used to scratch records these days. |
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Joined: June 2007 Posts: 3084
Location: Brisbane Australia | Everything old is new again :D
Bru an off thread question. I notice that you have a Preacher with Viper pups, still with pre amp or passive Viper elecs?
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Location: CT | turn what? |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 24
Location: indianapolis | I have a Dual 1229Q still working perfectly.
For those of you who remember that music can actually sound like music instead of compressed, thin, tiny frequency digital crap, here is a wonderful site that I get much use from.
this place right here
There are many great articles from experts that may help explain why there's a never ending struggle to make digital effects and the like sound natural. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 150
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Another great place for all things related to vinyl:
Needle Doctor |
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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 1498
Location: San Bernardino, California | - AussieJames
Just passive |
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Joined: July 2007 Posts: 161
Location: Seoul, Korea | Fellows, out of curiousity, how are you connecting your turntables, i.e. what kind of amp, preamp, speakers, cables, etc.? Recently built a vacuum tube amp (DIY set from Sun Audio Japan) because solid state amp did not create an emotive ambience. Slowly moving more and more to tube system |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Seems to me as if GRADO has dropped their price-range ...any moving coils there..?.. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | STK : Fellows, out of curiousity, how are you connecting your turntables, i.e. what kind of amp, preamp, speakers, cables, etc.? Recently built a vacuum tube amp (DIY set from Sun Audio Japan) because solid state amp did not create an emotive ambience. Slowly moving more and more to tube system
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Next you`re telling us that U`re using ECC83 `s and EL 34 `s , with Passive Volume , Local Feedback , and "Open Baffles" with "Vintage Wharfedale Super 8 RSDD speakers "...and a " KLIPSCH Horn "...do n`t U know that modern tiny , miniscule surround set-ups are the way to go.. :)
Vic
...3 volts and 30 amps. peak current will drive any electromagnetic transducer...not needed for the QUAD Electrostat offcourse.. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | I just say.......KT 66...eventually WE 300 B...allthough NOS is not my cup of tea.. |
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Joined: July 2007 Posts: 161
Location: Seoul, Korea | Vic: You seem way ahead of in terms of knowing what you like and how to set it up. Have a 2A3 tube power amp at 4.5W per channel. Don't have turntable (Dual) here, left mine with my mother in Sweden with all the LPs. Still using CD player (Ah Tjoeb) but looking for turntable. Do you recommend any? |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | STK : I have THORENS TD 124 , a Radio-Studio Rec. Player ( a 5 kilo cast iron platter with an Aliminum platter on top that can be lifted without stopping the cast-iron ), for your purpose , I would recommend the REGA " PLANAR 3 " , with it`s own ToneArm , build in Scotland , with a P.U that can cope with 0,5 - 1 gram stylus pressure , a LENCO L 75 ( 4 kilo platter ) would be Good ( Swiss made ) , with P.U which has 1,5 - 2 gr. stylus pressure , but since U mention Sweden , why , try to get hold of a BEOGRAM 4004 (Danish ) or Similar , with Tangential ToneArm , and B&o P.U , I do n`t know that specific Amp. of yours , but it should be very musical sounding , since Your amp. seems to be a Single-Ended Amp. , theoretically ( and in real life ) the best Power-Amp. design , specially so , when running in class A mode ( High Bias ) , ..congrats !!...connect a few horn speakers
and You `ll be able to " fill the room with Music " , even a large room , since that You are in Japan , it should be easy for You to obtain a couple of FOSTEX FE 108 drivers , and build a pair of these ,..
http://diyaudioprojects.com/Drivers/FE108/FE108S_horn.htm
..Your SE valve amps. will drive them nicely , and your neighbors will enjoy them too.. :)
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Ah yes , in Japan a Micro-Seiki would be obtainable for a reasonable fee , and for P.U , try a Nagaoka , DENON or whatever , Japanese stuff is usually Very Good :)
Vic |
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Joined: July 2007 Posts: 161
Location: Seoul, Korea | Great stuff, Vic. Meant to go to Akihabara soon, the area with all the latest electronic stuff in Tokyo. With the favorable exchange rate, high end audio such as Accuphase is almost half of what it costs in the U.S.
Here is the link to Sun Audio. It has been rated by Stereophile. http://www2.big.or.jp/~sunaudio/ |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | I have a few turntables
harmand kardon hk 1000
phase linear linear tracking turntable (made my pioneer)
several bang and oulfsen linear tracking and other turn tables
my favorite is the HK |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | STK : Thanks for the link , Nice Looking Amp. ( No feed-back !! ) ahh..the sweet sound of a clean sinus-wave , un-interupted by x-over distortion , only a Single - Ended can deliver that , soft headroom by means of a valve - rectifier , You `re doing Good , Congrats !! What Control / Pre-amp. have U got ? if the pre-amp. is equipped with valves , then U may want to look at a High-Output P.U , such as the DENON DL 103 ( I think )...for speaker cable OFC Copper offcourse.. :)
Vic |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ALPEP : my favorite is the HK
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Have U got an exceedingly good P.U on it , moving-coil perhaps ?
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
ALPEP : my favorite is the HK
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Have U got an exceedingly good P.U on it , moving-coil perhaps ?
Vic currently using the adc xlm mk II improved.
it works well. probably I should upgrade |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ALPEP : currently using the adc xlm mk II improved.
it works well. probably I should upgrade
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That`s a Fine P.U , I would be thoughtful about upgrading , it`s of utmost importance that the P.U fits the ToneArm , ( stylus-compliance versus ToneArm mass/resonance ..yada yada etc.)
..and Welcome to the nerd-club !! er..Audio - Buffs :)
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | vic
yes it works fine. I run mostly legacy stuff.
my "bedroom system" is a complete bang and oulfsen beomaster, turntable, cassette, tuner and integrated into bose 901's
I used to run a tandberg but traded that for the B & O
my main system is a little more complex
HK 1000 linear tracking turn table
bic beam box (antennea for the tuner)
furnman power conditioner
tascam 301 cassette mk II
tascam 301 cd player
paragaon tube preamp (made in California in the late seventies very rare and highly sought after)
HK citation II tube amp
Mcintosh mr 67 tube tuner
4 bose 901's with preamp/crossover
crown vfx2a crossover
bsr bass commmode gutter for a 15" jbl for lows
powered by a crown d150a
I am awaiting the arrival of a Lavry DA 10 this is a digital to analog convertor. Everything I have read is positive and this should give a more live feel to the sound. I will report on it when it comes in and I find the time to hook it up.
edited to add that the with any turntable but especially linear tracking and the HK you need to have it perfectly level. what a difference it makes!!!!!!!! |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | oh man the lavry just arrived.
now I have to wait till the adapters arrive |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by alpep:
oh man the lavry just arrived.
Boy, that got there quick. ;) |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Al ,
..now that Is an Impressive list , 901`s , so U `re in the Direct/Reflecting game eh , please say that the single speaker points towards U , too often have I seen/heard the opposite , with their owners saying , .." Yeah , I like `em but they sound a little huge " ...mygawd , they`re not 802`s , and U`ve got a Citation II , ( talk about a Humdinger X-tra Ordinaire ) , stuff that dreams are made out of , the very first High Current Amp. ever , and they still make `em according to Matti Ottala`s recipe , but what caught my attention was the word " PARAGON " ..( did U mean Paradigm ? ).. , JBL`s famed Stereo-box , I assume U know what I`m talkin` about , anyways , feast for the eyes and ears...
http://www.vintage-audio.com.ua/en/cat/152/363.html
..and Congrats with that swish " reeking of quality " convertor.. :)
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | nope not paradigm but PARAGON it is model 10 tube preamp. I have yet to see another one. they were made in the seventies in california and were considered high end audiophile. I was offered $1500 for it back about 15 years ago but could not part with it. I like the sound of it way too much.
as for the 901's I don;t have them optimally set up. I am married and it was hard enough sneaking in 4 of those into the room. I basically use them for mid and tweeters and let the jbl give me the thump for the bass.
I just found enough adaptors to hook up the lavry da 10 OH MY GOD. I cannot believe how much it not only warms up the sound but makes it sound so LIVE. Unbelieveable. I read a ton of good stuff about them and contacted them on a whim to become a dealer and get to try one of the DA convertors. YES they are expensiive but if you are playing in the audiophile league nothing is cheap. Most of my stuff is legacy gear but it is all really cool stuff.
gotta run and play the rest of brubeck's time out cd, take 5 sounds magnificent!!!!!! |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | PARAGON- This company came out with a few very interesting preamplifiers during the later 1970's. I have fondly remembered experiences with them.
According to former Paragon owner, Mark Deneen, the original Model 10, designed by "consulting engineer" Bruce Moore, was "unmanufacturable" and only 50 were ever made. I never heard one, but I did hear, and even owned, the replacements, the Model 12 and 12A. They were excellent in their day, maybe the best available, with full-bodied sound, spatial information and good retrieval of decay. That was breakthrough performance at the time. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Al ,
I could n`t find anything about them ( so far ) could U post a picture ?..and some info. , like , can it be adjusted for resistance ( moving magnet ) ....capacitance ( moving coil ) , with switches / modules ..?..
Vic
..sounds like an intriguing gem...( no pun intended ) |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | vic
I will have to take a pic I just sent an e mail to one of the orginal partners in the company and he sent me a crude schematic. unfortunately that is all that remains. he now runs a company called juicy music audio.
I e mailed bruce moore but got no reply. he also designs his own stuff.
wow I never knew i was such an audiophile I just thought I had a pile of old junk LOL |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Vintage gear has some great attributes if you are willing to spend the time and money to keep them running efficiently. Sounds like a mighty fine system Al.
I have a B&O setup in my bedroom (minus the turntable).
I always wanted a linear table but just never got around to buying one. I got an old industrial Techniques MKII. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | wow Al... maybe you're the one that would appreciate my original Hegeman speakers. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1112
Location: NW Washington State | I've got some strange omnidirectional tweeters that I think were designed and/or built by Hegeman. They have nearly vertical cones that taper down to the voice coil. Something like an upside down Ohm Walsh driver. The spiders around the voice coil are degraded so I've never tried them.
Anybody need a set of Karlson cabinets?
-Steve W. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | stephen
I guess I was just born in the wrong time I really like the old tube gear.
bruce
very cool I never knew about them. So many cool manufacturers out there can't know them all.
wow karlson cabs or it is carlson. what kind of speakers are in them? |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Old tube gear...new tube gear....
they both have a creamy sound that SS just can't duplicate. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1112
Location: NW Washington State | The Karlsons came with 12" early 60s Pioneers, with a small horn tweeter. Not sure if I still have the speakers. The cabinets are the kind of thing that's too good to throw out but hard to find someone local who would want them. Heavy to ship!
-Steve W. |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | All right, you guys have done it to me. I'm going straight over to The Wal-Mart and buying a new hi-fi system. While I'm there, maybe I'll pick up one of those fancy guitars, too. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5327
Location: Cicero, NY | OOO! Go for the STRAT, bobbo!! The amp will be right next to it!! |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Al ,
Any chance of having a glance at that schematic ?
..and I noticed the KARLSON being mentioned , an Uncle build 2 modified versions , still has them , it was like this , RADIO BULLETIN , a magazine and importer of components ( U know , for the amateur by the amateur ) well , they decided to turn the design into a bassreflex , so , they ported it , instead of maintaing the slats , what a disaster !!..it is intended for P A applications ( Dancings etc. er ..Disco..Band ) , having a " horn -like " behavior , the port killed it , the driver needs to have P A characteristics ( in those days called " Professional Speaker " ) , ( stiff suspension etc. ) initially designed with a JENSEN speaker , overhere , a FANE ( Atlass ?? ) was used....a Big Fat 20 Hz. whallopped through the walls , finally , a speaker that could do justice to the low freq. of a Full -sized concertwing , with a 10 watts amplifier , there`s a whole family of them , have a look...plans..pics..
http://home.planet.nl/~ulfman/artic.htm
..yet the one that I wanted / still would like to have...
http://www.vintage-audio.com.ua/en/cat/152/363.html
...driven by a CITATION II , would be Nice , right Al ..?!!.. :)
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1112
Location: NW Washington State | I'm glad I'm here in the AudioPhool Phorum. Just the other day I saw a forum devoted to those funny round plastic guitars. Weird!
-Steve W. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Al;
Do yourself a favour, and procure a copy of the band Oregon's "Out of the Woods" LP. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | here is a pic of the paragon 10
the full system (well what is not hidden under the table
HK turntable bic beam box
furman power conditioner
tascam 202 mk 11 cd
tascam 301 mk II cassette
mcintosh tuner
crown vfx2a crossover
lavry da10 bose crossover/preamp
fan unit
citation II
Please indulge me this once I am an audio geek |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The 6 foot tall rack.
Man, that brings back some memories. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Nice, Al. Do the lights in your neighbor's house dim when you crank it up? |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Nice, Al. Do the lights in your neighbor's house dim when you crank it up? as they should |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Perfect! |
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Joined: December 2007 Posts: 96
Location: europe | hi folks, great response on the turntables
i have a LINN SONDEK LP12 with a NAIM ARO Tonearm and a LINN TROIKA cartridge.
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Al,
Lurking in the bottom ( last but not least ) must be that CITATION II , with 6550`s ..?., ( them do n`t look like KT 88`s ), and do n`t U find it odd that the XO-filter in the all new JBL/CROWN PRX (P A) series is only half as good ,compared to your VFX 2 A , BTW , none of the amps. I`ve built had to go through
this.............
BOOMPH !!
http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/itechdroptestvideo.htm
Vic
..Phew..tell me that U will not try that with that CITATION... :) |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | Genelex kt 88's are in the citation II
they sound sweet
and yup the vfx 2a is a great crossover and sounds great
I will take my old gear any day. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750
Location: Boise, Idaho | Thanks for the link to Garage 'A Records, BruDev. I ordered a stylus for the old Shure cartridge and got it today. Found out we haven't hooked up the turntable since we moved into the house over 12 years ago. Had to drill a hole to run some wires through the back of the shelves. Listening to the Kaman boys right now on the Going to the Dogs album that came with the OFC guitar.
Makes me want to sit down and jam with my family, but none of us play that well. |
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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 1498
Location: San Bernardino, California | FYI the lube kit I bought has enough in it to do several tables. So, if you're into Dual 1229s it's a good buy. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | FYI the lube kit I bought has enough in it to do several tables. So, if your into Dual 1229s it's a good buy.
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