On a roll! (Plus a quick question)
Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-24 7:30 AM (#504066)
Subject: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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I now have the 1981 1113, the 1982 1655 is due Saturday, and the one that started it all off, the 1974 will either be picked up in the 31st, or that next week. Was able to finally land the elusive 1655, by having a friend bid on it for me. Still won it with only the one bid.

Three Ovations in a month! I've never been able to get 3, nor have such a complete sonic palette in so short a time! Boy am I glad to have found you guys! Of course a group shot once they're all together. But I do have 1 question though:

How difficult would it be, to have electronics installed in the 1113?

Happy Xmas everybody.

Joe
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AstroDan
Posted 2014-12-24 12:31 PM (#504075 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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Why would you add electronics to that sweet acoustic only? Personally, I'd leave it as-is and plug in the others...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-12-24 1:49 PM (#504079 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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I agree with Dan, but that's not really what you asked. The answer is still the same. It would be harder and more expensive to add electronics than to buy another Ovation with electronics. If you are really into the "sonic palette", it won't sound as good with the electronics, even with the best acoustic amp. If you really need to amplify your nylon stringed Ovation, you might want to try a Country Artist. (Part of the unofficial duties of the OFC is to get you to buy more Ovations.)
Please understand that my answer is based upon my bias. I rarely play in public and never professionally, so I have no need to amplify an acoustic. I have a 1713, which I love, but couldn't tell you if the battery is dead right now. I also have two acoustic amps and a portable PA. Let's just say that defines the difference between need and want. Of the many Ovations I have owned, several of the best sounding are acoustic only.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-12-24 2:23 PM (#504083 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)



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I have a 1121 Artist Beater that I was thinking about adding a pickup.
This is a steel string guitar, and it would be easy to add a Thinline, or undersaddle piezo.
But after much thought, I decided against it.
This is a Great sounding guitar the way it is, so I decided not to mess with it.
And I play outside... But not every guitar needs to plug-in.
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iglupickin
Posted 2014-12-24 2:32 PM (#504087 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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There are nylon string pickups from Kemona and LR Baggs that don't require modifying your guitar. Or an undersaddle piezo as others have mentioned.
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-24 3:38 PM (#504090 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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Hmm, lots of choices. I was thinking of just sending it back to CT. I heard the sound of the electric version of this model, and it blew me away. I use my guitars for recording these days, no longer playing live. That gorgeous sound I heard is what I'm after. The 1974 acoustic is not AE, it's acoustic only. If I sent this back, wou they be able to hook me up? (No pun intended). The 1655 needs some repairs, and John said they could handle those no problem. So, just wondering.

Oh, the knobs are missing from the 1655, anybody have any spares hanging around they're not using?

Thanks guys, Happy. Xmas and a Very New Year

Joe
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iglupickin
Posted 2014-12-25 7:44 AM (#504107 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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Your comment reminded me of the great customer service at the New Hartford Ovation factory. When I acquired my 1663 Classical a few years ago, the original knobs were stripped out for reasons I could not tell. After 3-4 emails to the factory over a few weeks I got no response, I finally got an answer from the factory. Not sure what they were going thru at the time with acquisitions and re-orgs pending but they sent me the knobs free of charge! That's just an example of the kind of service they provided. The delay was not an issue and they certainly made up for it. During a OFC visit I needed the foam surround for my 86 Collectors battery box, again one of the guys there just handed it to me after the tour. Small cost items yes but just the kind of thing that makes owning these legendary guitars that much more special! Happy Holidays to all around the world and keep pickin!
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FlySig
Posted 2014-12-26 9:45 AM (#504138 - in reply to #504066)
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The factory could install the electronics, but as has been said it will cost a lot more than just buying another guitar with the electonics already in it. Al alternate solution would be to do it yourself. There are numerous aftermarket systems you could choose from, some of which would require no more than drilling one hole for the output jack.
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-27 11:44 PM (#504172 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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OK, I'm sort of convinced to just find a model with electrics already there. What would be a good model to go with? I'd like to stay in the $300 range if possible. I'm disabled and (trying to) live on social security.

Thanks guys,

Joe
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AstroDan
Posted 2014-12-29 10:26 AM (#504218 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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You can find a Country Artist that'll fit your bill.
I bought one several years ago for $300.
A few surface cracks, but plays and sounds wonderful!
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jay
Posted 2014-12-29 2:28 PM (#504229 - in reply to #504172)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)



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http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/msg/4817254837.html

http://grandforks.craigslist.org/msd/4787132583.html

Here is a sampling of what folks are asking for AE nylons

You might check on GC site.

If you decide to go with a pickup, some feel the best for classicals is the Soloist by Barbera...but I imagine you are looking at $$$ equivalent of a good used 1613 or 1624.

 

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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-29 5:17 PM (#504244 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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Thanks everyone. Jay, those prices seem to be on the upper end of the scale. That 1613 looked good, and if I had the dough, I'd be all over that. Who knows, maybe it'll move slow.

Joe
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-29 10:59 PM (#504261 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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Found a 1968 Glen Campbell model, with original case for $200 locally. Seems to be alright,except the headstock was snapped off at one point, and repaired. Don't know by who or how well. Is this something I should consider? How much different will t sound from the 1121 in layaway?

Thanks guys,
Joe
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FlySig
Posted 2014-12-30 1:46 PM (#504280 - in reply to #504066)
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How does the repair look? A well glued headstock should be as strong as new. The value takes a hit but if it looks and feels good it should be ok structurally. If the case is in good condition it is worth about $100. That makes the guitar a pretty good deal if the repair is good.

Edited by FlySig 2014-12-30 1:48 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-12-30 1:58 PM (#504283 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)



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I bought my 1121 Beater with a repaired headstock.
It has a piece of wood "spliced" onto the top of the headstock joint.
The repair has held for over two years in my possession, and longer before I got it.
And the guitar sounds great, that is the important part.
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-30 3:08 PM (#504284 - in reply to #504280)
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FlySig - 2014-12-30 1:46 PM

How does the repair look? A well glued headstock should be as strong as new. The value takes a hit but if it looks and feels good it should be ok structurally. If the case is in good condition it is worth about $100. That makes the guitar a pretty good deal if the repair is good.


The repair looks pretty good, I'm giving this one serious thought. Will a Glen Campbell sound fuller than the 1121?

Thanks,
Joe
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-31 12:39 PM (#504320 - in reply to #504066)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)


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Just spoke to the guy with the Glenn Campbell, swears it's a '68. I think for $200 it's a steal with the case and all. Looks like I'll be driving a few hundred miles to pick it up next week. Anything I should know about this model?
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jay
Posted 2014-12-31 1:17 PM (#504321 - in reply to #504320)
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If it is this guitar

I am pretty sure he is wrong.

The 1127 hit the streets in 70?

I may be wrong, but the only Glen Campbell signature six string guitar available in 68 was the Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer.

And that would look like this

The damage at the bridge is something to examine, as it looks like situational damage.

The serial should be in the bowl, just above the sticker. That would help.

The 1121 and 1127 cosmetically are different, but have the same bowl....the 1127 being a little fancier - adorned like the legend.

I am not sure of the bracing, but if they were braced the same, you should probably expect the same response...unless one of the guitars has some mojo in it...which some do.

 

 



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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-31 2:08 PM (#504324 - in reply to #504321)
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amosmoses - 2014-12-31 1:17 PM

If it is this guitar

I am pretty sure he is wrong.

The 1127 hit the streets in 70?

I may be wrong, but the only Glen Campbell signature six string guitar available in 68 was the Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer.

And that would look like this

The damage at the bridge is something to examine, as it looks like situational damage.

The serial should be in the bowl, just above the sticker. That would help.

The 1121 and 1127 cosmetically are different, but have the same bowl....the 1127 being a little fancier - adorned like the legend.

I am not sure of the bracing, but if they were braced the same, you should probably expect the same response...unless one of the guitars has some mojo in it...which some do.

 

 



Yes Jay, that's the one. He sounded like it was a pain to get the serial number for me to check for the exact year. Whereabouts in TX are you? I'm in Beaumont. Aware of the mojo factor. Had a Gretsch Chet Atkins Nashville with tons of it. Wife made me sell.

Thanks,
Joe
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jay
Posted 2014-12-31 6:46 PM (#504333 - in reply to #504324)
Subject: Re: On a roll! (Plus a quick question)



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Joe, just south of Amarillo, in Canyon.

Pain? tilt the bottom up until the light shines in towards the neck...

 





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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-12-31 11:32 PM (#504338 - in reply to #504333)
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amosmoses - 2014-12-31 6:46 PM

Joe, just south of Amarillo, in Canyon.

Pain? tilt the bottom up until the light shines in towards the neck...

 



Yeah, I know (tilt). The way he was talking was like he had to go get it, open it up etc etc. starting to wonder if I should look for an AE model, especially if the bowl and bracing is the same as the 1121 I'm getting?
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jay
Posted 2015-01-01 1:54 AM (#504343 - in reply to #504338)
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If you go to check it out...head a little bit north of town and test this one ! 

If it is in decent shape...it should sound really nice. And they were a ltd ed. Acoustically, it should be a superior guitar.

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FlySig
Posted 2015-01-01 9:01 AM (#504346 - in reply to #504066)
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My Patriot is the best sounding, and loudest, O I've ever heard.
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