valuation on my 47 ri
slothead
Posted 2015-10-10 9:23 AM (#516013)
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What's the going rate for these roughly ? Kind regards Gary
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Designzilla
Posted 2015-10-10 10:12 PM (#516033 - in reply to #516013)
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I'm pretty sure the last one I saw sell went for $5000. I wouldn't sell mine for less than that. YMMV.

Great guitars!

Edited by Designzilla 2015-10-10 10:13 PM
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slothead
Posted 2015-10-15 3:06 AM (#516163 - in reply to #516013)
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I am based in the UK but would like to sell it but not many over here so thought I'd try here for a better response any other thoughts on resalable value? Kind regards slothead.. oh and thanks design zillion much appreciate it
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-10-15 3:57 AM (#516164 - in reply to #516013)
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HERE is a list of all of the 47RI's that Jerome knows about.

While searching around I have found 47RI's that sold for around $4500 way-back-when.
Understand that there will never be another one of these made.
Even if DW starts producing Adamii, it won't be the same.
Insurance value? (Let's play Antiques Roadshow) At least $10K.
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Standingovation
Posted 2015-10-15 8:41 AM (#516167 - in reply to #516013)
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I would think $5000 to $7000 would be in the ballpark
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AussieJames
Posted 2015-10-25 1:56 PM (#516632 - in reply to #516167)
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I just sold mine here in Oz!

AJ
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-10-28 1:18 PM (#516829 - in reply to #516013)
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If I had to sell all but three of mine, I think I'd keep the 47RI. Mine's #66 BTW.
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elginacres
Posted 2015-10-30 8:49 AM (#517898 - in reply to #516013)
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Yours is nice mark...alotta tone
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2015-10-30 2:26 PM (#517914 - in reply to #516013)
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I sold mine for $4,500 USD five years ago. Was only trying to break even and give someone else the chance to own a slothead. My OFC I wideneck will not go cheaply.

Edited by Tim in Tidewater 2015-10-30 2:28 PM
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2015-11-03 4:44 AM (#518103 - in reply to #516013)
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I think you all are too optimistic. I'd love to sell mine, but I doubt I would get 4,500 Euros over here.

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Kurt
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-11-03 5:31 AM (#518106 - in reply to #516013)
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Kurt, we a trying to tell Slothead the VALUE of the guitar.

As far as the market goes...
I have paid way below reasonable price on a few guitars lately.
Also, this market is why I have not sold anything lately.
I keep listing stuff, but nobody wants to pay me what it is worth.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2015-11-03 6:16 AM (#518108 - in reply to #518106)
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<p>Yep, it's a shame, That's why all my guitars are still here - and I'd love to thin the herd. But as long as nobody's willing to pay reasonable, they all stay. Even if I don't play them, they are nice to look at. Best regards, Kurt</p>

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slothead
Posted 2015-11-09 1:55 PM (#518425 - in reply to #516013)
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Cheers guys must have appreciate you taking the time to reply. .
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-11-09 2:28 PM (#518428 - in reply to #516013)
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I thought we got off track, but you asked for the "going rate" in your first post and it appears that not many of them are going anywhere.
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nerdydave
Posted 2015-11-09 8:04 PM (#518434 - in reply to #516013)
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But there is the VALUE of the guitar and then there is what the current market is willing to bear. Is there a difference between these two??
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-11-09 8:28 PM (#518435 - in reply to #516013)
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Hell Yeah!

Okay... This can be a really philosophical vs. reality question.
I paid $267 for my GCS771-4C, including shipping and case.
I would say that the Value of that guitar is much more than the Current Market.

But remember... A guitar is only worth what the buyer is willing to pay and seller is willing to accept.
FAQ
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nerdydave
Posted 2015-11-09 9:17 PM (#518436 - in reply to #516013)
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So current market (what a guitar will fetch now) and VALUE are two entirely separate entities??
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-11-09 9:37 PM (#518437 - in reply to #516013)
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We keep changing the words. The title said "valuation", but the first post asked about the "going rate". Something can have value, but until there are comparable sales, there's no way to tell what the "going rate" is. Nothing is going. Same with market value. There has to be a market. If nobody is buying, there's no market, so no market value. Anything at the higher end is harder to value. Our house sold for much less than its value because the market was bad. Since slothead said he wants to sell it, the market value and going rate are the same. What would a reasonable buyer pay for it? Kurt may be right, but there really haven't been enough sales to tell. List it for $6K and see if you get any interest.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2015-11-10 3:29 AM (#518438 - in reply to #516013)
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I did not place it on ebay, but all other offers I got have not been more than 3000 Euros.
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2015-11-19 5:49 AM (#518688 - in reply to #516013)
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Es stimmt halt nicht, dass alles teurer wird, Du musst nur mal versuchen, etwas zu verkaufen.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-16 1:03 PM (#522978 - in reply to #516167)
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Standingovation - 2015-10-15 8:41 AM

I would think $5000 to $7000 would be in the ballpark


I did well then. Holy Grail found and bought!
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-03-16 2:06 PM (#522979 - in reply to #516013)
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Congrats Nancy ... will be some tough competition for the bearclaw.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-03-16 3:23 PM (#522981 - in reply to #516013)
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The young man who posted the thread about researching Ovation history has at least one #47 RI. I forgot to ask him what numbers he had. They are truly awesome guitars. I hope all the 50th Anniversary guitars are at least close.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-16 3:55 PM (#522982 - in reply to #522981)
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Thanks Guys!

I have wanted one of these since I first saw Tony's.... But the few I have seen come up for sale either came up when I didn't have the money, or were gone in under 3 minutes. Got paid for a horse, AND my Tax Refund yesterday... and this one was still there this morning. It seemed Divine Direction that it was supposed to be mine! Who am I to say No to the Big Man Upstairs??? And the Seller came down another $400, that was all the acknowledgment I needed that it was meant to be!



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Damon67
Posted 2016-03-17 11:52 AM (#522992 - in reply to #516013)
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Congrats! One of the very best for sure
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-03-17 12:30 PM (#522993 - in reply to #522992)
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With all this trading going on maybe Dave should update the listing of the exclusive A club, which may be a bit out of date:

 

http://www.ovationgallery.com/collectors/collector-ofc.htm#47

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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-17 1:37 PM (#522994 - in reply to #522992)
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Damon67 - 2016-03-17 11:52 AM

Congrats! One of the very best for sure


Thank You Damon!!!

My Holy Grail List is getting smaller and smaller - it is down to:

Your Wood Top UKII, and
Prototype #23 BearClaw

and that is about it! Those 2 will never happen, but it gives me something to wish for!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-03-17 3:05 PM (#522996 - in reply to #516013)
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You have a Ute, Nancy? The guy with 2 #47RIs was wishing he had mine when he visited me last week. I don't buy the Holy Grail theory. It assumes there is one perfect guitar. I prefer Damon's theory that one more guitar is enough. I like to rationalize that I at least need guitars with different fret widths, fretboard radiuses, string types and number to play the songs I do, plus a bunch of different variations of electric guitars. My wife thought this sounded reasonable when I first told her I would limit my purchases to different models of Ovations. After I had about a dozen she found out there were probably a hundred left.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-17 3:53 PM (#522997 - in reply to #522996)
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"My wife thought this sounded reasonable when I first told her I would limit my purchases to different models of Ovations. After I had about a dozen she found out there were probably a hundred left."

LOL!!!!!!!!! Your wife must be a Saint, or at least have a Wonderful sense of Humor!

No Ute, at least not yet! Give me a bit more time! LOL!!!!

My take on the 'Holy Grail' is a wee bit different than yours, to me it doesn't represent the Most Perfect, but the Quest for the most Unobtainable. Something that touches something deep inside of you, and you want or need to find it, and hold it because it is that beautiful, and that rare.

Only problem with my Holy Grails, are once I have crossed one off the list, I am onto the hunt for the next one. LOL!!! It is a Quest, if you will. I don't really believe there is one, 'Perfect guitar', as each person has their own qualifications for what would be "Perfect". And to be really honest, I already have what I consider the "Perfect" guitar (for me), and that is my 1976 Custom Legend 1619-4. All of the others could be replaced (at great expense, I know...) but that 1976 CL could not be replaced, and the action and sound from it are irreplaceable to me. So definitely Not Perfect by normal standards, or compared to other more expensive pieces, but Perfect to me!

Edited by Nancy 2016-03-17 3:56 PM
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-03-17 6:03 PM (#522999 - in reply to #516013)
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Well a 47RI was kind of a "dream guitar" for me as well, and it seems Nancy has some great talent to find gems. I just consider myself very lucky to have found a 1687RI of similar vintage, and be content with that.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-03-17 6:45 PM (#523000 - in reply to #516013)
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My dream guitar would be an original slothead, so I compensated with the OFC 1 and #47RI. I don't know if it would fit my definition of the Holy Grail if that meant replacing the OFC and #47. I probably won't have to make that decision.
If you could be a saint without having a sense of humor, yes my wife is a saint. I think she gets a perverse enjoyment out of "complaining" to our friends about my Ovation obsession and I enjoy pointing out to her that there are many that share my obsession or are "worse" than me. I used to have a lot more bad examples than I've found recently. I don't know if I could say she tolerates it as much as she tries to ignore it. Last night she told me our daughter was going to the Tulip Festival "someplace near Seattle". I said it was in Mt. Vernon and that I've been there. She asked how I knew that and I reminded her Miles lives there. After the blank stare, I said "Mr. Ovation." After another "what the hell are you talking about" I explained that Miles was one of the founders of the OFC and had an Ovation Gathering in Mt. Vernon a few years ago. I learned about the Tulip Festival from that trip. This is, after all, an educational forum.

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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-17 8:04 PM (#523004 - in reply to #523000)
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Mark in Boise - 2016-03-17 6:45 PM

... This is, after all, an educational forum.


LMAO!!!!!!!! You crack me up so bad Mark!!!! Fantastic!!!! LOL!!!!!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2016-03-17 8:44 PM (#523008 - in reply to #516013)
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Educational - for sure, I've learned a lot. But there's some bad influences here, I had one Ovation when I joined.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-17 8:52 PM (#523009 - in reply to #523008)
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TAFKAR - 2016-03-17 8:44 PM

Educational - for sure, I've learned a lot. But there's some bad influences here, I had one Ovation when I joined.


+1 (come to think of it, I only had one too!!)
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FlySig
Posted 2016-03-18 1:50 PM (#523021 - in reply to #516013)
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I got my first Ovation from someone on this forum! My daughter had an Applause 3/4 size guitar as her first, and then I bought her a 1778T Red Flame when she was about 14. We walked into the acoustic room at Guitar Center and as soon as she saw it on the wall she declared that was the one she wanted! I was thrilled, as I had always wanted an Ovation from when I was her age. That got me interested in getting back into playing when she got the Red Flame, which led me here, which led me to the beautiful 6778LX-VN (looked very much like the '07 Collectors), which I recently sold to Alison. Being here I then bought a new '07C, then the Ute for Sara's high school graduation. Then a Hamer, Patriot, 1537, 2080, Viper, and Breadwinner.

Soon to add the Bearclaw anniversary Adamas. Several pictures from the factory show racks of the Anniversary guitars in process, so it won't be long.

Yeah this place is a bad influence!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-03-18 4:40 PM (#523022 - in reply to #516013)
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Me, too. I had my Matrix since I bought it new in 1977 and found this forum when I was trying to figure out if a used Celebrity was a good deal. I didn't buy that one, but stumbled onto one on ebay, traded up for a 99 Collector and then all hell broke loose.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-03-18 5:09 PM (#523023 - in reply to #523009)
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Nancy - 2016-03-17 6:52 PM

TAFKAR - 2016-03-17 8:44 PM

Educational - for sure, I've learned a lot. But there's some bad influences here, I had one Ovation when I joined.


+1 (come to think of it, I only had one too!!)

I was buying a Korean 4861 Balladeer and wanted to know about strings and such.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-03-24 10:47 AM (#523097 - in reply to #523021)
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FlySig - 2016-03-18 1:50 PM

Soon to add the Bearclaw anniversary Adamas. Several pictures from the factory show racks of the Anniversary guitars in process, so it won't be long.


YES FlySig!!!!! Another BearClaw to the Clan!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
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FlySig
Posted 2016-03-26 10:20 AM (#523163 - in reply to #516013)
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Thanks, Nancy.
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elginacres
Posted 2016-03-26 9:01 PM (#523193 - in reply to #516013)
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Mark...your RI plays very very well.
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stephent28
Posted 2016-03-27 2:58 PM (#523208 - in reply to #523193)
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elginacres - 2016-03-26 8:01 PM Mark...your RI plays very very well.

 

I am going to assume that the 47RI in question used to be mine......and yes, it played and sounded great.  I really hated to sell that one but at the time I had another 47RI (which I also sold but I can't remember where it went). 

Having the twin longnecks and original wideneck slothead formerly purchased by Linda McCartney for Wings tends to make you a bit jaded when it comes to owning so many incredible guitars and it feels good to let them go to those that still need the thrill of one of the finest guitars Ovation ever made.



Edited by stephent28 2016-03-27 3:00 PM
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-03-27 5:28 PM (#523214 - in reply to #516013)
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I'm glad you felt the urge to sell it Stephen. I got in big trouble for showing up really late at Keystone after visiting you and the Professor and she didn't even know I'd brought back the guitar. I don't know when I'd ever have another opportunity to get such a masterpiece.
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Posted 2016-03-27 8:11 PM (#523217 - in reply to #516013)
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You can tell it has loosened up....amazing what bass players can do with sound to an acoustic guitar!
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