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Location: Jet City | Specs for the 40th/50th Anniversary Guitars
1198-AV40 40th Anniversary Adamas, Shallow Non-Cutaway Series: 40thAnniversary Adamas Body Style: Mid Non-Cutaway Top: Woven Twill Carbon Fiber Top Finish: Ruby Gloss Bracing: #47 Style Quintad Body Binding: Cocobolo Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Epaulet: Cocobolo and Brass Bearclaws (#23 Adamas Style) Back: Handlaid Lyrchord Scale Length: 25 1/4" Neck: 12 Fret Mahogany 5-Piece with Maple/Mahogany Laminates Neck Finish: Satin Neck with Gloss Cocobolo Headstock Face Neck Binding: Cocobolo Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254mm) Number of Frets: 20, EVO Gold Postion Inlays: 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 3/4" (44 .5mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: Acoustic (Optional Direct Out Preamp with OCP1 Pickup) Tuning Machines: Schaller16:1 Strings: Adamas 1818 MSRP: $6,300.00
2098-AV40 40th Anniversary Adamas Cutaway Contour Bowl Series: 40thAnniversary Adamas Body Style: Mid Contour Top: Woven Twill Carbon Fiber Top Finish: Ruby Gloss Bracing: #47 Style Quintad Body Binding: Cocobolo Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Epaulet: Cocobolo and Brass Contour Teardrop (2080 Adamas Style) Back: Handlaid Lyrchord Scale Length: 25 1/4" Neck: 14 Fret Mahogany 5-Piece with Maple/Mahogany Laminates Neck Finish: Satin Neck with Gloss Cocobolo Headstock Face Neck Binding: Cocobolo Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254mm) Number of Frets: 22 , EVO Gold Postion Inlays: 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 11/16" (43mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: OP Pro Studio with OCP1 Pickup Tuning Machines: Schaller16:1 Strings: Adamas 1818 MSRP: $6,300.00
2078AV50-5 50th Anniversary Custom Elite Series: 50th Anniversary Custom Elite Body Style: Mid Contour Body Top: AAA Bearclaw Spruce Top Top Finish: Gloss Black Bracing: Quintad Bracing Body Binding: Black ABS with Gold Purfling Epaulet: Gold Leaf Back: Hand Laid Lyrachord® Contour Scale Length: 25 1/4 (641 MM) Neck: Curly Maple Neck Finish: Natural Finish Neck Binding: Black ABS with Gold Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254 mm) Number of Frets: 22 fully accessible frets, EVO Gold Postion Inlays: Brass side markers and 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 11/16" (43mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: OP Pro Studio, OCP1 00 High output pickup Tuning Machines: Schaller 16:1 Strings: Adamas 1818 MSRP: $4,500.00
2077AV50-4 50th Anniversary Custom Legend Series: 50thAnniversary Body Style: Mid Contour Top: AAA Cedar Top Top Finish: Natural Gloss Bracing: Custom X-Pattern Body Binding: Koa Binding with 3ply Wood and Abalone Purfling Epaulet: Koa with shell inlay Back: Handlaid Lyrchord Scale Length: 25 1/4" Neck: 14 Fret Mahogany 5-Piece with Maple/Mahogany Laminates Neck Finish: Satin Neck with Gloss Headstock Face Neck Binding: Koa Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254mm) Number of Frets: 20 , EVO Gold Postion Inlays: 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 11/16" (43mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: OP Pro Studio with OCP1 Pickup Tuning Machines: Schaller16:1 Strings: Adamas 1818 MSRP: $4,500.00
1678AV50-5 50th Anniversary Custom Elite Series: 50th Anniversary Custom Elite Body Style: Mid Non-Cutaway Top: AAA Bearclaw Top Finish: Gloss Black Bracing: Quintad Bracing Body Binding: Black ABS with Gold Purfling Epaulet: Gold Leaf Back: Hand Laid Lyrachord® Non-Cutaway Scale Length: 25 1/4 (641 MM) Neck: Curly Maple Neck Finish: Gloss Natural Neck Binding: Black ABS with Gold Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254 mm) Number of Frets: 22 fully accessible frets , EVO Gold Postion Inlays: Brass side markers and 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 3/4" (44 .5mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: OP Pro Studio Tuning Machines: Schaller 14:1 Strings: Adamas 1717 MSRP: $4,500.00
FD14AV50-4 50TH Anniversary Folklore Series: 50thAnniversary Body Style: Mid Contour non cutaway Top: AAA Cedar Top Top Finish: Natural Gloss Bracing: Custom X-Pattern Body Binding: Koa Binding with 3ply Wood and Abalone Purfling Epaulet: N/A Back: Handlaid Lyrchord Scale Length: 25 1/4" Neck: 12 Fret Mahogany 5-Piece with Maple/Mahogany Laminates Neck Finish: Satin Neck with Gloss Headstock Face Neck Binding: Koa Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254mm) Number of Frets: 19 , EVO Gold Postion Inlays: 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 3/4" (44 .5mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: Direct Out Preamp with OCP1 Pickup Tuning Machines: Schaller16:1 Strings: Adamas 1818 MSRP: $4,500.00
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Location: Jet City | And the pic...
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Location: SoCal | I'm trying to find a pic of it, but didn't Ovation show this guitar at NAMM 2014? The guitar I remember played and sounded wonderful. Anybody got a pic of it? I tried to find it on Jerome's website, but couldn't. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | We'll try to line up pictures with specs as they come.. but for now....
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | HOLY BUCKETS BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU DAMON!!!
I am making that my new Screen Saver!!!
God Bless you Damon!!!!
WOW!!!!!!
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Thank You for the Specs on the new ones - one Guitar Store had the 2098-AV40 listed at $12,600, for sale for $9599.00 Kind of blew me away...
The BearClaw is listed as Shallow Bowl on the Title and the Specs show Midbowl...
Thank you for posting the Correct Specs!
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The specs are still "in flux" as they say. I actually am putting them together with info from Ovation as they come. Damon started the thread and people started responding, so I'm just editing the original post as news comes in and updates are received. There are still some question, possible typos, clarifications.... but it will be sorted out soon. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | This is definitely the most complete list I have seen, we are very appreciative of yours and Damon's time and dedication!
I will be dreaming of Ruby Red Adamas' tonight! It is INCREDIBLE to see what she looks like!! Thank You SO Mich!!!! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Wonder what happened to the center hole model ...
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Shouldn't the 2077 be a center-hole Legend?
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Love that wood binding.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Old Man Arthur - 2016-01-18 9:53 PM
Love that wood binding.
Of all the details on that guitar, which are all great, I agree.. the binding really sets it over the top. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Ok, there are:
Adamas 1, BearClaw
Adamas 2, Tear Drop
The Center Hole, Cutaway Legend
The Center Hole, Non-Cutaway Folklore
The Gold Leaf Black Elite
Are there 2 versions of the Gold Leaf Black Elites?
There is a Cutaway one with a Peg head, and a
Non-cutaway with a slot head - both have the 50th Phoenix on them...
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Location: Canada | Mr. Ovation - 2016-01-19 3:35 AM Old Man Arthur - 2016-01-18 9:53 PM Love that wood binding. Of all the details on that guitar, which are all great, I agree.. the binding really sets it over the top. Oh yeah I am a sucker for wood binding too. Though looking at the specs the 2077, 2078 and 1678 have: Top: AAA Bearclaw Spruce Top Top Finish: Gloss Black Why would they paint over the bearclaw?
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Beautiful. |
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Location: Jet City | There's issues with the specs on the 2077. It's a Legend, but has Elite specs on it. Miles will fix it for me in a bit. |
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Location: Jet City | Here's the proper specs for the Legend. It'll get changed up top when Miles can get to it.
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| Why are the Adamas 40th Anniversary models? Is it because that's the 40th Anniversary design or is it that the first Adamas came some years later?
Will there be 50th Anniversary Adamas models? |
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Location: Jet City | Adamas came out 10 years later. Let's hope we'll see the 50th
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Jimmer - 2016-01-19 1:21 PM
Why are the Adamas 40th Anniversary models? Is it because that's the 40th Anniversary design or is it that the first Adamas came some years later?
Will there be 50th Anniversary Adamas models?
Here is the post from Beal about that:
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=46... |
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Location: SW Mintsoda | Nancy - 2016-01-19 8:11 AM
Ok, there are:
Adamas 1, BearClaw
Adamas 2, Tear Drop
The Center Hole, Cutaway Legend
The Center Hole, Non-Cutaway Folklore
The Gold Leaf Black Elite
Are there 2 versions of the Gold Leaf Black Elites?
There is a Cutaway one with a Peg head, and a
Non-cutaway with a slot head - both have the 50th Phoenix on them...
Nancy,
Also note in the pics you posted (large pic of cutaway and inset pic of non-cutaway) that the cutaway version is 14 frets and the non-cutaway is 12 frets - for what it's worth... |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | 360Ovation - 2016-01-19 5:46
Nancy,
Also note in the pics you posted (large pic of cutaway and inset pic of non-cutaway) that the cutaway version is 14 frets and the non-cutaway is 12 frets - for what it's worth...
I am confused!!! Not that that is a new experience for me....
And... There is now listed 6 Anniversary Pieces instead of 5!
Nuts to this, I am going to go make a Cherry Pie, if anyone wants some, it will be ready in about an hour... I will still be confused, but I will be a happy confused!
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Location: Yokohama, Japan | Damon67 - 2016-01-18 4:37 AM Specs for the 40th/50th Anniversary Guitars ...and Stuart says, GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Canada | Not only alpep has these but other stores are also taking orders: http://www.adirondackguitar.com/accoustics/Ovation/usa_menu.htm
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Their Specs are off too, I really am surprised that Al and the Dealers were not given more creditable Specifications. This from that Dealer's page for the TearDrop Adamas :
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One of Fifty!
Adamas 2098-AV40 Guitar Guitar
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List Price $12,600.00
Sell $9,599.00
Adamas 40th Anniversary Cutaway Contour Bowl
This Model is being Maunfactured for us Now - Very Limited Edition
Reserve Yours Now with a $500.00 Deposit
Balance of $9099.00 due when here to ship. We will email you actual Pictures of your Guitar before shipping. Happy Birthday Adamas! |
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Location: Canada | Yeah almost ready to send in that deposit ... |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | d'ovation - 2016-01-22 3:33 PM
Yeah almost ready to send in that deposit ...
THAT is exactly what happens when the information is incorrect. You lose prospective sales...
I saw that, and my jaw bounced off my kneecap! |
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Problem is that I already have a Black W597 that I like a lot. It sounds and plays great.
I can't justify bringing home another Black Cutaway Ovation so I need to decide whether to keep what I have or sell it to help fund the 50th Anniversary Custom Elite.
Ideally, I'd like to be able to play one first before I plunk down the change but that may not be possible. I was up at the Mothership and got to hear the very first 50th Anniversary Folklore and it sounded so sweet.
So I'll ask you folks who've owned Elites and Adamas how would you compare these two guitars?
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Jimmer - 2016-01-27 11:37 AM
So I'll ask you folks who've owned Elites and Adamas how would you compare these two guitars?
My Adamii sound different from my Ovations.
I have a W597T and it sounds different from my Elites.
I am not poetic enough to tell you how they sound different, but they are not the same.
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Location: Jet City | Jimmer - 2016-01-27 11:37 AM I can't justify bringing home another Black Cutaway Ovation You have an Adamas. This Elite is an Ovation. Apples and oranges, not even the same name on the headstock. Justification made... Buy the Elite, keep the Adamas. |
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Jimmer - 2016-01-27 11:37 AM I can't justify bringing home another Black Cutaway Ovation You have an Adamas. This Elite is an Ovation. Apples and oranges, not even the same name on the headstock. Justification made... Buy the Elite, keep the Adamas.
Yea yea yea I should've seen this coming. You are basically quoting the little voice in my head. I'd like to keep them both but...
Let me ask this differently. I've owned an Anniversary Legend a 12 string Custom Balladeer and 2 Adamas.
What does a Custom Elite sound like?
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Location: SoCal | Damon67 - 2016-01-27 1:20 PM
Jimmer - 2016-01-27 11:37 AM I can't justify bringing home another Black Cutaway Ovation You have an Adamas. This Elite is an Ovation. Apples and oranges, not even the same name on the headstock. Justification made... Buy the Elite, keep the Adamas.
This kind of logic just sounds so correct when Damon says it. Then I look at my bank account balance...... |
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Location: Utah | Damon67 - 2016-01-18 1:37 PM
Specs for the 40th/50th Anniversary Guitars
1198-AV40 40th Anniversary Adamas, Shallow Non-Cutaway Series: 40thAnniversary Adamas Body Style: Mid Non-Cutaway Top: Woven Twill Carbon Fiber Top Finish: Ruby Gloss Bracing: #47 Style Quintad Body Binding: Cocobolo Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Epaulet: Cocobolo and Brass Bearclaws (#23 Adamas Style)
Which is it, shallow non-cutaway as the title says, or mid non-cutaway in the body of the description?
We need accurate and believable specs. I want to buy one of these 50th/40th anniversary guitars. Throw this old dog a bone in the form of solid finalized accurate specs!
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Damon67 - 2016-01-28 12:49 PM
mid non-cutaway. the rest looks right
Damon, is it a contour, or a regular back???
I looked when Beal was holding his, and there were no electronics, the tag said that there were, but I couldn't see the back to see if it was a contour or not. |
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Location: Canada | Nancy - 2016-01-28 12:01 PM Damon67 - 2016-01-28 12:49 PM mid non-cutaway. the rest looks right Damon, is it a contour, or a regular back??? I looked when Beal was holding his, and there were no electronics, the tag said that there were, but I couldn't see the back to see if it was a contour or not. I don't think there are any contours without cutaway. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | YES!!!!!!!! Thank You!!!!
A nice full rounded belly for me!!!! |
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Location: Jet City | Correct, all contours are cutaway.
On the electronics I honestly don't remember. I thought it was all acoustic, but maybe there's a line driver and under saddle piezo on it. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | That model is offered as an acoustic, but there is an option for the line drive electronics. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Doin' Da Happy Dance!!!!
Thank You SO Much!!!! ) |
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Location: Cologne/Germany | Just had the impression when watching the latest video with Darren that there is no 'hole' on the backside of the new contour models?! How do they work on electronics, truss rod....?
Had a look at AX contour models, these do have a service hole....
Just wonderin'....?!
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Location: Canada | red-twins - 2016-02-01 1:28 PM Just had the impression when watching the latest video with Darren that there is no 'hole' on the backside of the new contour models?! How do they work on electronics, truss rod....? Had a look at AX contour models, these do have a service hole.... Just wonderin'....?! I think you just pop the pre-amp out and the hole might be big enough for some hands to reach in. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I was just looking at the Darren Wallace video and those contour bowls don't have a manhole cover.
At the "Roundback Roadshow" I was looking at a Wood-Top Adamas and it did not have a manhole cover.
Yeah, they said that you could work through the preamp hole... But I didn't believe them.
They do all of the bracing and such before they put it together, so none of them actually worked through that hole. Due to Charlie Kaman's experience with aircraft he thought an access panel was a good idea.
If I were to custom order from New Hartford, I would tell them that I want a manhole cover.
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Location: Jet City | Old Man Arthur - 2016-02-01 1:47 PM Yeah, they said that you could work through the preamp hole... But I didn't believe them. They do all of the bracing and such before they put it together, so none of them actually worked through that hole. There's something to their statement for sure. They have a manhole covwr on the bearclaw Adamas because there's no preamp hole, so they must have to get in there for something during mfg. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Or... there is no way to reach inside of a Bear-claw because of the bars on the holes.
So you need a manhole cover to get guitar picks and cashews out of it.
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Old Man Arthur - 2016-02-01 4:50 PM
Or... there is no way to reach inside of a Bear-claw because of the bars on the holes.
So you need a manhole cover to get guitar picks and cashews out of it.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good One OMA!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Location: undisclosed | I think the 12 fret slothead Elite would be perfect if it was a 12 string. Can't think why they didn't make it that way to get a 12 in the line up. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Keep in mind that these 6 models are not "the" lineup per se. These are expensive limited edition models to celebrate the 50th/40th anniversary and the demand for a $4000 12-string is probably pretty limited. Moving forward with the routine lineup I would agree that a nice non-cutaway 12-string would be a terrific idea especially given Ovations strong history and reputations as a 12-string builder. Problem might be that you can still buy plenty of nice Pacemakers on ebay in the $500 range. |
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Location: undisclosed | I had know idea 12 fret wide neck 6 strings were so popular., that width for a 12 is about right, like the pacemaker. Even for nylons I like the 14 fret and narrower neck of the country artist but I'm used to closer spacing. |
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Location: Cologne/Germany | d'ovation - 2016-02-01 9:34 PM I think you just pop the pre-amp out and the hole might be big enough for some hands to reach in. children's work allowed in the US? a hand (at least), a tool, maybe even a lamp.... honestly, I am going with OMA.... First I thought they had built the first models without that man cover, because it looks nicer at NAMM, but as OMA wrote, there are other contour O's and A's without that hole, whereas the AX do have it. Maybe the US built guitars are maintenance-free?! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Somehow I missed the introduction of the FD 14 models until now. Those get my blood going. The Folklore is just right as a fingerstyle guitar. Barre chords are a little more difficult than on a standard neck, but they're not as tough as a flat 2 inch classical neck. I like the sound of the Folklores with spruce tops. The FD 14s have cedar tops, so they have a bit softer sound. Darren didn't say, but it looks like a mid-depth on the 12 fret model, which might be a bit soft for my tastes. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | <p>The 08C has no access hatch. I am able to get my hand inside through the preamp hole (The little sticky pad that holds the wires in place came loose), but you can't see what you're doing when you do that. Another way, is to get one of those extendable/flexible grabby things (I'm sure they have a technical name) and use that to hold what you need to get at.</p><p> </p><p>And here's the thread discussing that: http://ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30365&posts=17&highlight=adamas%20inside&highlightmode=1#M404034</p>
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Location: Cologne/Germany | TAFKAR - 2016-02-02 11:56 PM The 08C has no access hatch. I am able to get my hand inside through the preamp hole (The little sticky pad that holds the wires in place came loose), but you can't see what you're doing when you do that. Another way, is to get one of those extendable/flexible grabby things (I'm sure they have a technical name) and use that to hold what you need to get at. And here's the thread discussing that: http://ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30365&posts=17&highlight=adamas%20inside&highlightmode=1#M404034 Thanks TAFKAR. good link. But when a brace has gone or the guitar has a kaman bar with access from the inside..... Then, I guess, the mother is needed. And when you are abroad, these things do not become easier.... |
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Location: Suisun City, Ca | Standingovation - 2016-01-18 7:49 PM Wonder what happened to the center hole model ... So, is this guitar this: 2077AV50-4 50th Anniversary Custom Legend Series: 50thAnniversary Body Style: Mid Contour Top: AAA Cedar Top Top Finish: Natural Gloss Bracing: Custom X-Pattern Body Binding: Koa Binding with 3ply Wood and Abalone Purfling Epaulet: Koa with shell inlay Back: Handlaid Lyrchord Scale Length: 25 1/4" Neck: 14 Fret Mahogany 5-Piece with Maple/Mahogany Laminates Neck Finish: Satin Neck with Gloss Headstock Face Neck Binding: Koa Binding with 3ply Wood Purfling Fingerboard: Ebony Fingerboard Radius: 1 0" (254mm) Number of Frets: 20 , EVO Gold Postion Inlays: 12th Fret 50th Anniversary Phoenix Nut (Material/Width): Bone, 1 11/16" (43mm) Bridge: Ebony Hardware: Gold Special Electronics: OP Pro Studio with OCP1 Pickup Tuning Machines: Schaller16:1 Strings: Adamas 1818 MSRP: $4,500.00 And, is it a "normal" contour or a mid-depth? From this pic, it looks like a regular deep-bowl contour like my CE or 07C... Either way works for me. |
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Location: Jet City | That's it.
They say its slightly slimmer. If there is a difference, I couldn't tell much. |
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Joined: March 2010 Posts: 486
Location: Suisun City, Ca | Thanks Damon. I've replied to Big Al! |
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Joined: March 2010 Posts: 486
Location: Suisun City, Ca | Jimmer - 2016-01-27 1:33 PM Damon67 - 2016-01-27 4:20 PM Jimmer - 2016-01-27 11:37 AM I can't justify bringing home another Black Cutaway Ovation You have an Adamas. This Elite is an Ovation. Apples and oranges, not even the same name on the headstock. Justification made... Buy the Elite, keep the Adamas. Yea yea yea I should've seen this coming. You are basically quoting the little voice in my head. I'd like to keep them both but... Let me ask this differently. I've owned an Anniversary Legend a 12 string Custom Balladeer and 2 Adamas. What does a Custom Elite sound like? I have a mis-labeled C2078 made in 2009. I bought it brand new in a local B&M store and it is one of the best playing and sounding guitars I've ever palyed. Not THE best, but I'd hate to have to live off the difference. Full, rich tone up and down the fret board and simply beautiful. Plays like a dream, too...
https://youtu.be/ZY5QQhQLzeo
Edited by AstroDan 2016-02-08 6:07 PM
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Joined: May 2013 Posts: 152
| AstroDan - 2016-02-08 7:00 PM
Jimmer - 2016-01-27 1:33 PM Damon67 - 2016-01-27 4:20 PM Jimmer - 2016-01-27 11:37 AM I can't justify bringing home another Black Cutaway Ovation You have an Adamas. This Elite is an Ovation. Apples and oranges, not even the same name on the headstock. Justification made... Buy the Elite, keep the Adamas. Yea yea yea I should've seen this coming. You are basically quoting the little voice in my head. I'd like to keep them both but... Let me ask this differently. I've owned an Anniversary Legend a 12 string Custom Balladeer and 2 Adamas. What does a Custom Elite sound like? I have a mis-labeled C2078 made in 2009. I bought it brand new in a local B&M store and it is one of the best playing and sounding guitars I've ever palyed. Not THE best, but I'd hate to have to live off the difference. Full, rich tone up and down the fret board and simply beautiful. Plays like a dream, too...
Thanks for your thoughts the Elite.
Nice sounding guitar. Rainsong is on my list of songs to learn sometime soon. I like your feel for it.
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Joined: March 2013 Posts: 359
Location: undisclosed | Why did they use x bracing on the Legend? Something to do with the cedar top? |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192
Location: Phoenix AZ | I think USA Legends switched (back) to X bracing around 2008 with the introduction of the LX series. The new model is probably just a carryover from that. I don't think it has anything to due to spruce vs cedar, bt I am far from being an expert. |
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