1996 Book Elite
Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 9:51 AM (#524814)
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So I have the opportunity to purchase an Ovation 1996 Book Elite that is in immaculate condition. The seller is asking $1000 for her. Can I get some opionons on the selling price? I think that is a very good deal but I am not sure.

Thank you for all feedback!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-04-25 9:59 AM (#524815 - in reply to #524814)
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I haven't seen one for a long time, but I'd jump on that if I could.
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Beal
Posted 2016-04-25 10:08 AM (#524820 - in reply to #524814)
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jump!
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Nancy
Posted 2016-04-25 10:10 AM (#524821 - in reply to #524815)
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I have never seen one of those come up for sale, and I have been watching for one!
And immaculate condition? I am with Mark and Beal, go for it!!!

Edited by Nancy 2016-04-25 10:11 AM
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bburg
Posted 2016-04-25 10:33 AM (#524822 - in reply to #524814)
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Got one in very used condition for $800. They are great guitars, go for it!!

Bernie
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Damon67
Posted 2016-04-25 12:24 PM (#524824 - in reply to #524814)
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$1k is a steal for one of the very best models ever to come out of New Hartford. Quite possibly the best cutaway Elite ever.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-04-25 1:10 PM (#524826 - in reply to #524824)
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Damon67 - 2016-04-25 10:24 AM

$1k is a steal for one of the very best models ever to come out of New Hartford. Quite possibly the best cutaway Elite ever.


It's a really good guitar no doubt, but I never cared for the way they finished the neck and headstock. Personal preference.

As to the best cutaway Elite --- 87 Collectors.



Personal preference.........
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 2:19 PM (#524827 - in reply to #524826)
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Done! I bought her. I hit the jackpot! She is in near mint condition. I purchased her from the original owner and he also had the original sales receipt. Better yet, he gave me "The Book" too that looks brand new and it is signed on the inside cover.

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Nancy
Posted 2016-04-25 2:24 PM (#524828 - in reply to #524827)
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

Pictures Please????
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 2:38 PM (#524830 - in reply to #524828)
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Will do!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-04-25 3:20 PM (#524832 - in reply to #524814)
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You got the Book, and the Book?
How cool is that?
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 3:37 PM (#524833 - in reply to #524832)
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Yea. I feel like it is my birthday and X-Mas all rolled up into one! I will post some pics in just a bit. The Book is signed on the inside cover and it is hard to make out but it looks like it was signed by Kaman himself or possibly his son. I will take some photos of that too.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-04-25 3:59 PM (#524834 - in reply to #524814)
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Wow! I bet I know why he gave you the book. That's probably Beal's signature and everyone knows that ruins the value. Is it the hardcover or softcover version?
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 4:15 PM (#524835 - in reply to #524834)
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The guy I purchased from felt the book belonged with the guitar. When he purchased the guitar new the book was part of the sale. It is hard to tell for sure by my untrained eye but it looks like it might read Bill Kaman.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-04-25 4:20 PM (#524836 - in reply to #524814)
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I think that's all correct. I was just kidding about Bill's signature reducing the value. At least I didn't use my other old lame joke about how he got his hand through those little sound holes to sign all those labels.
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 4:30 PM (#524837 - in reply to #524814)
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Here she is! Can anyone make out the signature?







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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2016-04-25 7:27 PM (#524842 - in reply to #524814)
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Congrats on an awesome and rare guitar plus the book whoo hoo!!!
One of ovations best cutaway elites,my favorite cutaway is the N768 Nako Custom Elite but that's just cause I own it LOL
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Nancy
Posted 2016-04-25 7:59 PM (#524843 - in reply to #524836)
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Mark in Boise - 2016-04-25 4:20 PM

I think that's all correct. I was just kidding about Bill's signature reducing the value. At least I didn't use my other old lame joke about how he got his hand through those little sound holes to sign all those labels.


LOL!!!!!! I could just see him with an EXTRA long purple flair trying to sign the insides of guitars!!! LOL!!!! I am still trying to get a *Beal signed Guitar*....

Steve, your pictures are not showing up...
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Beal
Posted 2016-04-25 8:40 PM (#524845 - in reply to #524814)
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the book isn't worth Shyte with that signature. put it in the bathroom to be used page by page.
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-25 9:03 PM (#524847 - in reply to #524830)
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Not sure what happened to the pictures. I will post in a new thread tomorrow.

Edited by Steveomatic 2016-04-25 9:06 PM
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Cavalier
Posted 2016-04-26 12:47 AM (#524850 - in reply to #524814)
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There working now, that is a thing of beauty.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-04-26 12:53 AM (#524851 - in reply to #524814)
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That is Beal's signature... CWKaman II or 2, or both kinda combined.

And that is an awfully Purdy guitar.
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Designzilla
Posted 2016-04-26 7:06 AM (#524853 - in reply to #524814)
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Wow! Congrats on the great find. That's a rare one indeed!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-04-26 9:52 AM (#524855 - in reply to #524845)
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Beal - 2016-04-25 7:40 PM

the book isn't worth Shyte with that signature. put it in the bathroom to be used page by page.


Told ya! Beal is consistent. When the pics came up I was staring into the sound hole, trying to see the signature and then remembered you were talking about the signature on the book. One of the hard bound copies, too. You really scored.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-04-26 10:25 AM (#524856 - in reply to #524855)
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O-M-G!!!!!!!!

Steve if you *ever* sell that, you know where to find me!!!
That one is Pristine, and Gorgeous!!! The Book too!!!
Many Congratulations on such a Wonderful Find!!!! I know she will sound as good as she looks, that's why you can never find these for sale anywhere!!!!

Enjoy your new Beauty!!
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-26 10:30 AM (#524857 - in reply to #524856)
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Thanks! She really is a beauty and sounds/plays awesome.
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standing
Posted 2016-04-26 10:33 AM (#524858 - in reply to #524814)
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You got yourself a great guitar, in incredible shape.
It looks like it literally was collected and not played.
(I understand the concept of "Collectors" but I'd personally rather play 'em than just look at 'em.)
Even the book looks virtually untouched.
It looks like the hardcover edition of the book.
Those books are difficult to find and priced accordingly if you do find one. (The autograph doesn't really diminish the value much, since it's impossible to read. Just don't tell anyone who it is.*)

So, yes, you got a very good deal.

(Nice Fleetwood Mac poster, btw.)





*If you haven't already figured it out, everyone is joking about the autograph. Let's just say the signer has been known to read this forum.
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red-twins
Posted 2016-04-26 11:53 AM (#524862 - in reply to #524814)
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Very nice, man, lucky you were. There was one on german eBay two years ago, just 30miles from my home, and I did not see the offer before it was sold- at a similar price als yours. I was really p....

Luckily I was able to get my hands on a Nakao N768 in the meantime, so I go with 2wheeldrummer, this one is the best Elite cutaway, simply because I own one....

Enjoy your new toy!!!

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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-04-26 12:51 PM (#524865 - in reply to #524814)
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Looking like the proverbial cherry on the sundae.. so very pretty and no doubt sounds and plays as pretty. Now if you could please send it out on pass-around tour for all of us to meet and play it! Congratulations!
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-26 1:27 PM (#524867 - in reply to #524814)
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I am a bit confused on the whole signature thing. I think I sorta get it. So who's signature is it?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-04-26 1:34 PM (#524868 - in reply to #524814)
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C. William Kaman II. Known as Bill, or "Beal" on this site. Read the book and you'll figure it out right away. As I recall, he wrote the forward (and probably helped write most of the rest of the book).
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-26 1:38 PM (#524869 - in reply to #524868)
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Very cool!
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bburg
Posted 2016-04-27 1:13 AM (#524886 - in reply to #524814)
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Awesome deal, Steve. Congrats!!

Bernie
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bburg
Posted 2016-04-27 1:13 AM (#524887 - in reply to #524814)
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Awesome deal, Steve. Congrats!!

Bernie
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-04-27 1:29 AM (#524890 - in reply to #524814)
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But why on earth does he call himself Beal??
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Beal
Posted 2016-04-27 9:24 AM (#524897 - in reply to #524814)
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Say it with a deep back in the woods Tennessee hillbilly accent. Then mispronounce the last name like everyone does. you'll get it
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Nancy
Posted 2016-04-27 9:38 AM (#524899 - in reply to #524890)
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nerdydave - 2016-04-27 1:29 AM

But why on earth does he call himself Beal??


Remember "Family Affair"? The TV show with Buffy and Jodie, Mrs Beasley and "Uncle Beeeall"??? Hillbilly works too! LOL!!!!

"Cayman" works perfectly, that is how I thought it was pronounced too, until Tony told me it is like "Command" without the "d". Is Kaman Scottish??
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Posted 2016-04-27 5:04 PM (#524914 - in reply to #524814)
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That guitar is unreal
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-04-27 5:30 PM (#524916 - in reply to #524890)
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nerdydave - 2016-04-26 11:29 PM

But why on earth does he call himself Beal??

Unca Beal......

It's a long story.
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Damon67
Posted 2016-04-27 5:32 PM (#524917 - in reply to #524826)
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moody, p.i. - 2016-04-25 11:10 AM

Damon67 - 2016-04-25 10:24 AM $1k is a steal for one of the very best models ever to come out of New Hartford. Quite possibly the best cutaway Elite ever.

It's a really good guitar no doubt, but I never cared for the way they finished the neck and headstock. Personal preference. As to the best cutaway Elite --- 87 Collectors. Personal preference.........

 

Opinions... assholes... you know the saying.

I like the oil rubbed finish better.

Steve-o, nice get. My book has that same damned scribbling. Why would someone would deface a historical accounting of Ovation like that? Kid's these days, I'm tellin' ya.

According to Mr Ovation, the Book Elite I have once belonged to Beal. Whether that's true or not, it's one of the very best guitars under my roof. Plays fantastic, and looks... well you already know that. There's no way I'd sell it for $1k

 

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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-04-27 5:37 PM (#524919 - in reply to #524917)
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Yea, I do feel lucky with the deal I got. I have seen one other come up for sale about 5 years ago that I could not pull the trigger on. This baby is in what I would call show/collectors condition. With that said, I plan on playing the heck out of her!
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