Craigslist Adamas
Todd G.
Posted 2016-12-27 3:37 PM (#531499)
Subject: Craigslist Adamas


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Not mine, but an interesting 12 string Adamas II for $1400.

http://fayar.craigslist.org/msg/5919523992.html

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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2016-12-27 5:06 PM (#531500 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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Wow that's a long neck 12 string adamas,probably a custom order,that has to be rare!!!!

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Samuels
Posted 2016-12-28 2:03 PM (#531507 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Thank you so much for sharing this Todd, I've been looking for my Adamas 12 string for the last 4 years and this was the one! I just bought it, thank you again so very much!!!
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Todd G.
Posted 2016-12-28 2:39 PM (#531508 - in reply to #531507)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Samuels - 2016-12-28 1:03 PM Thank you so much for sharing this Todd, I've been looking for my Adamas 12 string for the last 4 years and this was the one! I just bought it, thank you again so very much!!!

Glad it worked out for you and I hope you enjoy it!  I did email the seller earlier today hoping to post more info about it, but didn't hear back presumably because you bought it. 

Congrats!

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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-12-28 6:19 PM (#531509 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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WTG Todd for posting... and congratulations Samuels for snarfing. Gotta love the OFC.
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Todd G.
Posted 2016-12-28 8:27 PM (#531522 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Well, if I didn't have my heart set on another special O that I'll get in about a month, I would have probably snagged this. I just don't want a 12 string to be my primary guitar.

Enjoy it Samuels!!



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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-28 9:29 PM (#531524 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Looks like it's my turn to go over to Sam's house. Congratulations, Sam. Let me know when it has arrived.
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Todd G.
Posted 2016-12-28 10:20 PM (#531525 - in reply to #531524)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Mark in Boise - 2016-12-28 8:29 PM Looks like it's my turn to go over to Sam's house. Congratulations, Sam. Let me know when it has arrived.

Yeah.  We want a report on how it looks and plays when you get it.

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Standingovation
Posted 2016-12-29 10:41 AM (#531530 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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I've never played a long neck 12. Would be interesting.
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Samuels
Posted 2016-12-30 11:20 AM (#531572 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: RE: Craigslist Adamas


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Will do Mark, can't wait to have you over!

And I will definitely let you all know how it turns out, I will try and make a video and post a link on here once it's all settled in.

It appears to be in mint condition too, I'm just so incredibly happy right now to finally be getting and Adamas 12 string. The only unfortunate thing is that it doesn't have a case, so if anyone knows where I might be able to find one for this kind of Adamas it would be most appreciated!



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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2016-12-30 12:08 PM (#531573 - in reply to #531572)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Man... what a rocket-ship that must be. You should have the X-15 airbrushed on the top. Congrats.
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-12-30 2:45 PM (#531577 - in reply to #531500)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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2wheeldrummer - 2016-12-27 5:06 PM Wow that's a long neck 12 string adamas,probably a custom order,that has to be rare!!!!

How could you tell it is a long-neck?

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Weaser P
Posted 2016-12-30 3:05 PM (#531578 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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They only did those fret markers' on the long necks (at least to my knowledge).
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-12-30 3:43 PM (#531579 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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The model number is DS585. The DS means "D Scale", i.e. Baritone, i.e. Long neck. As opposed to 1585 which would be the standard 12-string Adamas II version.
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red-twins
Posted 2016-12-30 4:00 PM (#531580 - in reply to #531578)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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Weaser P - 2016-12-30 10:05 PM They only did those fret markers' on the long necks (at least to my knowledge).

right and wrong, there were a few custom orders with those fret markers.

 

You only know from the length of the scale. From the photo I cannot tell its scale, but the name DS is quite an indication that it is a longneck.

Congrats to the grabber! I would like to see more.....



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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2016-12-30 5:06 PM (#531581 - in reply to #531577)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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d'ovation - 2016-12-30 2:45 PM

2wheeldrummer - 2016-12-27 5:06 PM Wow that's a long neck 12 string adamas,probably a custom order,that has to be rare!!!!

How could you tell it is a long-neck?



It's already been said but the "DS" on the model number is for long necks,plus the fret markers design is most commonly associated with the longneck,what a monster guitar I hope he posts some sound samples.
Congrats on an awesome 12 string.

As far as cases go check the scale length but my long neck had a custom case so you'll probably need to find an DS768 case or custom order a case,



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Standingovation
Posted 2016-12-30 5:56 PM (#531583 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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Correct, I don't think this guitar will fit in a normal case. Perhaps not even a longneck case. I think Stephen had to get a bass case for his.
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FlySig
Posted 2016-12-31 4:56 PM (#531604 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas



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Yeah contact stephent. He has a couple of long neck A's which are in non-standard cases.
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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-02 11:49 PM (#531657 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Thank you everyone again! It sounds like they will finally be able to ship it tomorrow morning, I will definitely post pictures once it has arrived! Is Stephen his username here on the OFC?
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Todd G.
Posted 2017-01-03 4:35 AM (#531658 - in reply to #531657)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Samuels - 2017-01-02 10:49 PM Thank you everyone again! It sounds like they will finally be able to ship it tomorrow morning, I will definitely post pictures once it has arrived! Is Stephen his username here on the OFC?

StephenT28 is who you're looking for.

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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-04 1:35 PM (#531699 - in reply to #531499)
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Awesome, thank you Todd!
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Todd G.
Posted 2017-01-04 6:28 PM (#531705 - in reply to #531499)
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You're welcome!

BTW, my DS585 finder's fee is getting to play that guitar if I'm ever in the Boise area. Or if you're ever in the Fort Collins, Colorado area...LOL!
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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-04 7:21 PM (#531712 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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You sir have a deal! Seriously, send me a message if you're ever headed my way!
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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-09 1:22 PM (#531819 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Well I have an unfortunate update. Just opened the the box up and come to find that the girl who initially sold me the guitar lied about the true condition of it. I just got off the phone with the manager and she is very nice and willing to help. The manager actually knew the true condition of the guitar and asked the girl several times that I knew of the damage, which again the girl did not mention. Come to find out the girl was actually let go a couple days after selling me the guitar...

So I would really hate to return it, but if the cost to have it repaired is ridiculous then I fear I may have to. I'll submit pictures here in a bit, but any advice on the matter would be greatly appreciated...

The back of the bowl has a very minor bulge no bigger than a fingerprint. The real issue is the top. It is almost completely separated from the right upper side, all the way up underneath the neck.
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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-09 1:46 PM (#531821 - in reply to #531499)
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jamrcat
Posted 2017-01-09 1:49 PM (#531822 - in reply to #531819)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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First of all sorry about your sale but: I played an adamas 12 string for over 30 years. I have banana like fingers and never had a problem. I purchased a longneck 6 string from Arthur a couple of years ago and sold it because of the fatigue I would get playing the longer scale after 30 minutes or so (The first four frets are quite a bit wider). I can't imagine playing a 12 string longneck without having even more fatigue. Anyways that's my 2 cents!
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-09 6:41 PM (#531831 - in reply to #531499)
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Samuels,so sorry to hear about your adamas I've been in that boat before and it's hard to decide what to do,it's a rare guitar so ideally it would be worth fixing,I bought a project Adamas I 1587 off feebay a couple years ago knowing it would need work and sent it to the mothership and it plays great with a few cosmetic issues,it had a lifted top,clean over the suspension ring with an action that was sky high and they worked wonders on it,i think I paid $650 to get it repaired and if was worth every cent of that to have it done right.
If I were you my big concern would be the bowl that's a really weird looking spot where it meets the neck,contact john budny at the mothership,send him some good pics and he can give you an idea what it would take to fix it,see how much the seller will come down on price and if that will pay for the repairs it might be worth keeping,tough call good luck.

here's a couple low res pics of what my adamas looked like before repair,if you want pics of the finished guitar feel free to PM me

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Todd G.
Posted 2017-01-09 8:09 PM (#531834 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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Man, sorry to hear this thing wasn't close to what I thought it would be. Let us know what you decide to do with it.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2017-01-09 8:23 PM (#531835 - in reply to #531499)
Subject: Re: Craigslist Adamas


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That's terrible! It would be interesting to know how that happened, but I doubt anyone would say. It looks like its had some real abuse. I hope John can tell whether it can be fixed and how.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-09 8:52 PM (#531837 - in reply to #531835)
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Mark in Boise - 2017-01-09 8:23 PM

That's terrible! It would be interesting to know how that happened, but I doubt anyone would say. It looks like its had some real abuse. I hope John can tell whether it can be fixed and how.


I would bet it was left in a very hot environment,car trunk maybe,and the bowl deformed under the stress of the strings causing the top to separate and the bowl to crack,just a guess on my part.
I can't believe they didn't list the damage in the ad or on the phone

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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-09 11:07 PM (#531844 - in reply to #531499)
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Thank you so much everyone. I emailed John as soon as I posted my update on here. I will be sending it down to the mother ship to be restored as soon as I can get a case for it. I don't think that I'll be able to get very much back from the store in way of compensation unfortunately, but I fell in love with this guitar the second I saw Todd post the link. It's part of the family now and I need to treat her right.
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2017-01-10 11:31 AM (#531859 - in reply to #531499)
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If I look at the bridge I would say that something was gone very wrong with that guitar. I bet there is a belly in the top, too, and it seems to be in need of a neck-reset. I would not be surprised if some of the braces were loose.too. I would remove the strings immediately and give the guitar to John Budny.
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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-10 11:19 PM (#531893 - in reply to #531499)
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Thanks Detlef, the guitar is very nearly on it's way to the mother ship. Oddly enough the bridge and top belly are mint, it's as if someone applied a lot of force from the top of the head stock and pushed it into the body. But even the head stock is pristine. You are right though, it will be getting a neck-reset and any potential braces repaired. This will be my first guitar I send and get from the mother ship, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little excited haha!
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2017-01-11 4:07 AM (#531896 - in reply to #531893)
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Don´t be afraid, If you get a guitar back from John "Gandalf" Budny it will be as new. I once send a heavily mistreated ´82 collector´s to these guys and what I got back was a gem of a guitar, with perfect setup. I would have bought this 12string and have it it sent to the mother if I had found it before. This is a very rare to find guitar and a must-have for any 12string aficionados.
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Geostorm98
Posted 2017-01-11 1:31 PM (#531912 - in reply to #531499)
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We've had forum members send in Ovations for repair and the level of repair work needed was such that the only thing they salvaged from the guitar was the neck...I think I remember reading that here..? Basically a new guitar.
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jay
Posted 2017-01-11 2:11 PM (#531916 - in reply to #531912)
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George, I think that happened with Paul on one he sent in.

 

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