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Location: NJ | Things are OK but it was hard to see most of the old factory cut up into various spaces for other purposes
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Location: south east Michigan | I know what you mean.
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Did you see the room where an artist hangs hundreds of small tiles from the ceiling that forms a full size horse?
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You can now sit at a table in the old engineering room and have a burger and a beer. (it's a pretty good burger, too).
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The wall that held one of every collectors model is now home to a big screen TV behind a bar.
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The hardwood floors are still cool.
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I'm still grateful for that little corner section, way in the back, that is still doing such good work.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | What are they doing with the Hamer floor? I really miss that wonderful shop. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Maybe Al got that far... I didn't.
I saw a dance studio, a ltttle shop that sold oils, or herbs or some health thing like that. And a couple office spaces that look like some kind of business consultants.
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Location: NJ | every floor has a bunch of little businesses in it......
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Men are so annoying...
Al.....
WHO did you see? John, Darren, ????
WHAT did you see? Any new news, any new guitars that they are making? What other guitars did you get???
HOW do the Boys think things are going, anything long term come up?
WHERE did you get the NEW Adamas I, are they doing a Special Run for Japan on them, and you snagged, what 1, 2, 12??? They look FABULOUS!!!
WHY no pictures????
WHEN will they be able to make some Custom Adamas????
ARGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!
Getting details out of a man is SO FRUSTRATING!!! Inquiring Minds and Women WANT TO KNOW!!! 
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "every floor has a bunch of little businesses in it...... " While I wish it were different, I guess I'm a glass half full kinda person. Nice to see small businesses opening up, especially in a state like CT that has been loosing more and more large businesses every year for many years. |
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Location: When?? | I'm with Mr. O. We all want the warm traditions of our life to remain in place, but if that were always the case then we'd be carving these posts on cave walls to keep the caveman happy. I think it's pretty cool that the facility has found a positive evolution with forms of commerce that people can make a living from instead of being just another old factory going derelict and overgrown next to a river someplace... and the bright side.. it IS still producing new guitars as well. This all makes me only half-glass-sad. Empty-glass-sad would be if DW had not come along and rescued it.. so that is a blessing I like to count.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | So Nancy, if men are annoying because they don't talk enough, give me a call and ask me to explain how my guitars are different. Al's just one of those who you can ask what time it is and he doesn't have to explain how his watch was made. That's an old expression that will be out of date soon because the next generation won't know what a watch is. |
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Location: NJ | nancy
sorry.....
WHO did you see? John, Darren, ????
saw them both
they are both well Darren was not sure if he would be attending Namm this year.
WHAT did you see?
they are in the process of a rehab of a famous doubleneck for a famous player. can't say more than that
Any new news, any new guitars that they are making?
yes but it is not set in stone and I am not at liberty to discuss it at this point. Perhaps when Namm comes I can release details
What other guitars did you get???
2098gt-8
1197gt-8
HOW do the Boys think things are going, anything long term come up?
they are very optimistic
WHERE did you get the NEW Adamas I, are they doing a Special Run for Japan on them, and you snagged, what 1, 2, 12??? They look FABULOUS!!!
they were made for japan and for reasons I am not real sure of I was offered the guitars. they do look fabulous
you can see one photo on my for sale thread and then go to my website for other photos.
guitars made for the Japan market are held to the highest spec and these deliver in both sound and build quality I am very impressed
WHY no pictures????
pics on my website
I have a pic of the old sign in the service dept but I have to find a place to host it .I posted it on facebook
WHEN will they be able to make some Custom Adamas????
I am currently submitting orders
they are still in the process of working out pricing.
If you have something in mind please contact me.
sorry for the lack of information above but I have been a little overwhelmed the past few weeks.
as I often say....get in me a good mood and you will not be able to get me off the phone....if I am busy or preoccupied with life ....send me an e mail that's the best way to get a hold of me.....LOL yeah.....I know....I'm a complicated guy....but it comes with the territory of being a business owner.....
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Thank You Al, MUCH Better!
The way Men and Women communicate is so interesting, and frustrating for both.
Men give the Title for the Article, and that is enough for other men. Women need the entire story, details, details, details. Ever ask you wife a simple question and she goes on for a half an hour about nothing you care about? And we ask a Man about something, and you give us a shrug, a nah, or I guess so... drives us crazy.
You can't skimp on the story, the whole story, and nothing but the story when talking about going to the Mothership!
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Mark in Boise - 2017-01-09 8:30 PM
So Nancy, if men are annoying because they don't talk enough, give me a call and ask me to explain how my guitars are different. Al's just one of those who you can ask what time it is and he doesn't have to explain how his watch was made. That's an old expression that will be out of date soon because the next generation won't know what a watch is.
I would LOVE that Mark, I soak up new information like a sponge, and always have a ton of "Why...'s " to follow up with! But I know the quiet ones too, you have to pull it out of them, and have plenty of time to be patient with them!
I still wear the old fashioned watch, when I wear one, with the hands, I don't like digital ones! I haven't really worn one for about 5 years now. No need. |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | Nancy - 2017-01-10 4:17 AM
Men are so annoying...
This is what may have happened if I went to The Mother Ship and spoke to Nancy after.
Me: I dropped in to the Ovation factory in New Hartford today.
Nancy: Oh wow! How was it?
Me: Good.
Nancy: Who'd you meet?
Me: Some guys.
Nancy: What did you see?
Me: Stuff.
Nancy: Were there any nice guitars?
Me: Yep.
Nancy: Did you buy anything?
Me: Yep.
Nancy: #$%!! &*%$@!!
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"every floor has a bunch of little businesses in it...... " While I wish it were different, I guess I'm a glass half full kinda person. Nice to see small businesses opening up, especially in a state like CT that has been loosing more and more large businesses every year for many years.
however I suspect that some of these were larger businesses and had to downsize due to the Democratic governor who is trying his best to turn the state into a third world country. Some are startups which is nice. BUT, they still can make great guitars there, I bought one from Al, figured it might be a good time. y'all should take out a second mortgage and buy one of these, they really are great. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | And I do have the answer to that question. It's the last verse in a song on the my third cd, The J&B Brothers.
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PRECISELY!!!! Good One Banjo!! LOL!!!
I hope that I didn't offend you Al, I am sorry if it came off harsh, I meant it funny, but I seemed to have come off a wee bit like a nagging shrew! My Apologies! 
Men do tend to just give the most scarce of details though, and women like to hear everything right down to what color the Welcome Mat is....
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you did not offend me.....
you must realize I have to keep some info back that is considered confidential I have always had this relationship and will continue to do so.
sometimes I tend not to reveal much because well to be honest, it is often used against me.....people call me pick my brain engage me in e mails conversations etc and then buy elsewhere for $5 cheaper....or I get back stabbed etc.....
some people say to me Wow it must be great to be in the guitar business.....well it is.....but sometimes you look around and see your money tied up in inventory, the economy tanking and wonder.....can carbon fiber make a tasty soup????
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Location: SoCal | "HOW do the Boys think things are going, anything long term come up?
they are very optimistic "
Out of all that Al said, this was the best part. Businesses grow and they shrink. But this information, that the guys in New Hartford are optimistic, is great.... |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | I am one of those "WHY" people - I want to know EVERYTHING about things. I was told I can be very intimidating when on a quest for information. People think that I am challenging their knowledge, and it upsets them, when I am actually trying to understand the entire process and wrap my head around it all.
When they told me that I had Cancer, they wanted to schedule my surgery for 2 days, I insisted on 2 weeks so that I could do some research and find out the facts. You don't make a decision like that in 20 minutes, you need to understand your options, and the effects of each option. My Dr to this day brings that up, and calls me the most stubborn person she has ever had to save. But I don't regret the time taken, or the decision made! |
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Location: When?? | @alpep - "some people say to me Wow it must be great to be in the guitar business.....well it is.....but sometimes you look around and see your money tied up in inventory, the economy tanking and wonder.....can carbon fiber make a tasty soup????"
So very true! My wife and I have 67 years of combined business life. Everything from janitor to jeweler to jester and far beyond, and long ago realized quite clearly that those whom have never made an independent living from even as much as a lemonade stand will never.. ever.. find the core rationale to understand Al's statement above. By virtue of that I hereby extend a hearty THANK YOU to Al for standing by during times of both fat and lean to make sure that the guitar world has reliable, honest access to what we need. In the meantime, January sucks.. always has (right, Al?).. so tonight we are having soup made from skate boot leather with nail polish broth. Yum!
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Location: Colorado | alpep - 2017-01-09 8:56 PM nancy sorry..... WHAT did you see? they are in the process of a rehab of a famous doubleneck for a famous player. can't say more than that This sounds pretty cool...especially if it's the one that resides (or used to reside) at the NYC Hard Rock Cafe. Tim Luton shared a photo some time ago and it looked like that guitar may have had (at least) a finish crack in the top. Maybe that's why that guitar was taken out of service in the first place. Of course, this is all assumption and supposition on my part. I could be completely off track. I know Al can't share more than that, so I'll wait patiently to hear more later. |
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Location: SW Mintsoda | alpep - 2017-01-10 10:56 AM
I seem to attract the lunatic fringe at times and well what can I say???? it goes with the territory
That's what happens when you hang around here...
...Nancy, you have to remember, women are caring, sensitive souls - therefore they truly want to know everything...then they can care even more.
The reason most men don't give much information or remember many details...we really don't care that much about anything.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | That's very insightful and might explain why I forget a name as soon as I hear it and never ask all those questions that my wife does. My sister always talks at least 45 minutes after the first time she says goodbye and when my wife asks what she said, all I can remember is "goodbye". |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | 360Ovation - 2017-01-13 2:50 PM
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The reason most men don't give much information or remember many details...we really don't care that much about anything.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That does explain it!
And Thank You for not saying Women are just nosey...
Thank you 360, a good giggle is always much appreciated!
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hi, Everyone,
I don't like January, either, because I live in CANADA, and, "If you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes, and it'll change!" I still just use a pocket watch myself. I liked the NAMM 2017 Ovation video on YT, but I found it was a bit jumpy, attention span-wise. I must be getting old, eh? Can I actually get a SSB Elite Plus Koa? If not, I'll take the new Glen Campbell Balladeer model in Natural, please, and thank you. Is it still using the GC Artist /Mid-Depth Bowl? Or maybe I should get a mandolin? Decisions, Decisions, Decisions. I have definitely got GAS again. Some !@#$ internet company called, "Bang Good". is now selling, get this.. ,"grape- hole", ukuleles? Grape holes? C'MON, MAN!? It looks like we are STILL getting copied, but STILL YET, VERY BADLY, AGAIN, Arthur! Yikes! Nancy, if you like to talk, I like to listen. However, I have heard some say, "The devil is in the details." I never looked for him there, nor anywhere else, for that matter. He just shows up, to tempt me every single day, because that's his job. Alpep, Mr. Ovation, DW, John Budny, Darren Wallace, Beal, and others, are all doing a great job in keeping the OVATION brand going 50 years on, and I hope, 50 years more. We are NOT those other guitar companies, and we never pretended to be. Change is hard, true, but I was once told this is how we grow. Are we going to be just another, "boutique guitar", company, and leave the average joe/jill without a quality guitar, unless they sell a leg, and a head? Or maybe a kidney, like Thunderbolt? (We just still need our collective arms, and hands to play an Ovation, am I right? I know, I know, yes, I watched way too much Monty Python. "I AM THE MINISTER OF SILLY WALKS!" I once worked in retail/music sales too, and yes, the customer is always right. The Ovation brand still has staying power, and it will for some time, by the looks of things. Attracting new customers, while retaining al those things that made us iconic, will continue to be a fine balance. I'll stick with my OVATION, because I like it.
Mike S.
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Location: Colorado | Todd G. - 2017-01-10 4:47 PM alpep - 2017-01-09 8:56 PM nancy sorry..... WHAT did you see? they are in the process of a rehab of a famous doubleneck for a famous player. can't say more than that This sounds pretty cool...especially if it's the one that resides (or used to reside) at the NYC Hard Rock Cafe. Tim Luton shared a photo some time ago and it looked like that guitar may have had (at least) a finish crack in the top. Maybe that's why that guitar was taken out of service in the first place. Of course, this is all assumption and supposition on my part. I could be completely off track. I know Al can't share more than that, so I'll wait patiently to hear more later. ProfessorBB mentioned he saw Matt Smith tuning a RS double neck at NAMM. Anybody have photos of this guitar at NAMM? |
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Location: moline,illinois | There's an article in guitar world mag about these guitars,DW is making bookmatched tops for there 2017 Collectors series guitars so tops made in California.
http://www.guitarworld.com/contest/win-ovation-collectors-series-el...
And heres a u-tube video of the new models,Gorgeous Guitars!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dx_4VVGmcM
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Location: SW Mintsoda | Oooooo...that Glen Campbell Signature model actually trips my trigger as much as the new ones (mostly because I suspect I could get a lefty made of that one...and the price? Something like $1699 street? YEAH!!!).
Which brings up a point a few of us have made a THOUSAND times...
...DW Drums, will you please, please, PLEASE make a mold for lefty contour bowls, so we can get in on the fun!
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Location: Katmandu | 360Ovation - 2017-02-28 4:54 PM Oooooo...that Glen Campbell Signature model actually trips my trigger as much as the new ones (mostly because I suspect I could get a lefty made of that one...and the price? Something like $1699 street? YEAH!!!). Which brings up a point a few of us have made a THOUSAND times... ...DW Drums, will you please, please, PLEASE make a mold for lefty contour bowls, so we can get in on the fun! Same hope here, but we're oh-so-much in the minority... I sent an e-mail months ago to the Mothership inquiring about their plans for us southpaws; I have yet to hear back from them. Though there are still great US-made vintage Ovations out there for us lefties to acquire on the secondary market (mostly A-braced L717s, which are superb). Also this video of the new GC model in action (Premierguitar), unfortunately the boy who's demoing the beauty can't play at all...
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Location: SW Mintsoda | leonardmccoy - 2017-03-01 12:04 PM
360Ovation - 2017-02-28 4:54 PM Oooooo...that Glen Campbell Signature model actually trips my trigger as much as the new ones (mostly because I suspect I could get a lefty made of that one...and the price? Something like $1699 street? YEAH!!!). Which brings up a point a few of us have made a THOUSAND times... ...DW Drums, will you please, please, PLEASE make a mold for lefty contour bowls, so we can get in on the fun! Same hope here, but we're oh-so-much in the minority... I sent an e-mail months ago to the Mothership inquiring about their plans for us southpaws; I have yet to hear back from them. Though there are still great US-made vintage Ovations out there for us lefties to acquire on the secondary market (mostly A-braced L717s, which are superb). Also this video of the new GC model in action (Premierguitar), unfortunately the boy who's demoing the beauty can't play at all...
Not only can he not play, he can't talk... he made up at least three words (mostly adjectives, but that doesn't matter, because he wouldn't know one if it bit him) trying to describe how wonderful these guitars are, even though he made it sound mediocre...
...and, the USA model has a CEDAR top? Why is that? Did Glen's ever have cedar tops?
Also, the USA models are not @ $1600 - that would be the Korean ones (of which I'm sure there will be no lefties). USA models are around $3K.
I do have an L717 from the early-mid '90's, and it is a great sounding and playing guitar...just very heavy compared to an older ('84 or so) lefty 1157 Anniversary model... maybe because the Anniversary model has no electronics (or the T-bar neck?). |
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Location: Katmandu | The staff was probably misinformed at the event as to the actual specs of the Glen Campbell US model, since the official NAMM site (link) lists other specs: Glen Campbell Signature Model (US) - precise recreation of Campbell's iconic “1771” model
- handcrafted in Ovation’s Custom Shop located in New Hartford, CT
- AA solid Sitka Spruce top
- shallow "Vintage Style Lyrachord" body
- 5-piece mahogany/maple neck
- ebony fingerboard w/ classic diamond inlays and mother-of-pearl Glen Campbell signature
- walnut bridge
- center sound hole design w/ inlaid maple leaf rosettes
- FET preamp (stereo output, old-school volume and tone controls)
- available in hand-sprayed Natural or Sunburst nitrocellulose lacquer
- 9158-0 deluxe molded case included
Discounted price $1,699, retail $2,350.
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Location: moline,illinois | d'ovation - 2017-03-01 12:22 PM
So these are NOT US Ovations but are made in Korea after tops are cut in California.
The model numbers are 2078AX plus letters for the specific wood veneer so I would say assembled in korea.
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Location: SW Mintsoda | leonardmccoy - 2017-03-01 2:54 PM
The staff was probably misinformed at the event as to the actual specs of the Glen Campbell US model, since the official NAMM site (link) lists other specs: Glen Campbell Signature Model (US) - precise recreation of Campbell's iconic “1771” model
- handcrafted in Ovation’s Custom Shop located in New Hartford, CT
- AA solid Sitka Spruce top
- shallow "Vintage Style Lyrachord" body
- 5-piece mahogany/maple neck
- ebony fingerboard w/ classic diamond inlays and mother-of-pearl Glen Campbell signature
- walnut bridge
- center sound hole design w/ inlaid maple leaf rosettes
- FET preamp (stereo output, old-school volume and tone controls)
- available in hand-sprayed Natural or Sunburst nitrocellulose lacquer
- 9158-0 deluxe molded case included
Discounted price $1,699, retail $2,350.
I see everything at that link except the price... which makes me leery to trusting that this will be a USA Signature model for a street price of $1,699... where did you find the pricing information? (Thanks in advance!) |
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hey, Ovie from Pittsburgh,
Mike S. here. People keep telling me I'm funny. I don't know why. I'm all in with THE OTTAWA SENATORS for Lord Stanley's mug, naturellement. My nephew is their assistant physiotherapist, so we can get tickets from him. Based on your location, I'm assuming you would be a PENGUINS fan. Thinking on guitar forums???...Nah, I just lurk here in the weeds to see what's for sale. Now, that OFC lady member, NANCY from frozen Minnesota with her NAN-CAVE,( COVET, COVET), SHE makes ME laugh! GO SENS GO!
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Location: Katmandu | 360Ovation - 2017-03-02 10:20 AM I see everything at that link except the price... which makes me leery to trusting that this will be a USA Signature model for a street price of $1,699... where did you find the pricing information? (Thanks in advance!) You're late to the party. All the NAMM info, findings, and photos are preserved in the NAMM thread. As far as I remember DW's own Bill Xavier mentioned the discounted price in one of the videos linked there.
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