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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-19 12:23 PM (#532119)
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Thought I'd start a new thread here for photo posts. Just ran into our old friend Matt Smith tuning a custom RS double neck. Will post photos as soon as I can.  

 

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-19 12:44 PM (#532120 - in reply to #532119)
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Bill from DW running the booth. He says hi to all his OFC buds.
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Posted 2017-01-19 12:50 PM (#532121 - in reply to #532119)
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<p>A pair of Adamas Vipers to die for. I love these aluminum bridged beauties beauties! </p>

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-19 12:57 PM (#532122 - in reply to #532119)
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-01-19 12:59 PM (#532123 - in reply to #532119)
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Interesting... Ovation cajons.

Are those A-Vipers mahogany bodies Prof?



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jay
Posted 2017-01-19 1:24 PM (#532124 - in reply to #532123)
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What? A GC Model?





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Todd G.
Posted 2017-01-19 1:32 PM (#532125 - in reply to #532119)
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Looking good Brad
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bburg
Posted 2017-01-19 2:32 PM (#532126 - in reply to #532119)
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That looks like Parlor sized....?

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Weaser P
Posted 2017-01-19 2:37 PM (#532127 - in reply to #532119)
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Very nice, Prof.

That Elite 8 string looks pretty interesting too...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2jdHnTUkAM1Fqv.jpg:large
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-19 4:30 PM (#532135 - in reply to #532123)
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Jonmark Stone - 2017-01-19 12:59 PM

Are those A-Vipers mahogany bodies Prof?

 

Nope. The bodies are composite and noticeably lighter than the mahogany vipers. 

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Posted 2017-01-19 4:31 PM (#532137 - in reply to #532120)
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Where can we get one of those cool Adamas/Elite epaulet sitting blocks?
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-01-19 4:38 PM (#532138 - in reply to #532137)
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Jimmer - 2017-01-19 4:31 PM Where can we get one of those cool Adamas/Elite epaulet sitting blocks?

Considering the DW heritage, I'm pretty sure they are Cajon percussion boxes, Jimmer. Yes... very cool.

 

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-19 4:49 PM (#532140 - in reply to #532119)
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<p>Yes, they are cajon boxes. </p>

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-19 4:55 PM (#532141 - in reply to #532119)
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Posted 2017-01-19 4:57 PM (#532142 - in reply to #532119)
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Damon67
Posted 2017-01-19 6:00 PM (#532144 - in reply to #532124)
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jay - 2017-01-19 11:24 AM

What? A GC Model?

In 2 finishes even

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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-01-19 6:32 PM (#532145 - in reply to #532135)
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ProfessorBB - 2017-01-19 4:30 PM

Jonmark Stone - 2017-01-19 12:59 PM

Are those A-Vipers mahogany bodies Prof?

 

Nope. The bodies are composite and noticeably lighter than the mahogany vipers. 

Geez I'd love to sample one of those. But I don't need another guitar. I don't need another guitar. He said...

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Posted 2017-01-19 6:40 PM (#532146 - in reply to #532119)
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Those cajons look great. Got to get one.
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Weaser P
Posted 2017-01-19 6:43 PM (#532147 - in reply to #532119)
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Has Al got 'em, Beal?
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Samuels
Posted 2017-01-19 6:47 PM (#532148 - in reply to #532119)
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Info on how to get some of those Ovation Box Seats please!!!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-01-19 7:00 PM (#532149 - in reply to #532119)
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To get one of those Ova-Cajons it would probably be best to be at the Ovation booth on the last day when they are tearing down.
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Posted 2017-01-19 7:08 PM (#532150 - in reply to #532149)
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Thank You SO Much Professor!!!

Those Woodgrains look Incredible! And it is So nice to see that they put the white mustache back on the CL's! Geez these look nice!!!!
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jay
Posted 2017-01-19 11:30 PM (#532153 - in reply to #532119)
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The neck on the Glen Campbell model looks exactly like the neck ((that was released around Ghost on the Canvas)) that was attached to the Glen Campbell 1627LTD




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richardd
Posted 2017-01-19 11:43 PM (#532154 - in reply to #532119)
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I loved playing the nee GC models today. They felt great. Lovely old style V neck in satin finish. Very light and resonant.
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Standingovation
Posted 2017-01-20 7:17 AM (#532159 - in reply to #532119)
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I would guess these GC guitars might just be old stock of the LTD with a new label on them. Ovation has made several attempts to reissue the 1627, first as a 40th anniversary model in '06, then the LTD version, then the Vintage lyracord version (which are still being sold as FRG's) and now this one. Plus I'm sure there will be a "tribute" model after he passes.

Bottom line is that these were great guitars and groundbreaking in their day. Unfortunately that day was 45 years ago.
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jay
Posted 2017-01-20 9:16 AM (#532160 - in reply to #532159)
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"Bottom line is that these were great guitars and groundbreaking in their day. Unfortunately that day was 45 years ago."

+1

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d'ovation
Posted 2017-01-20 9:57 AM (#532161 - in reply to #532119)
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So other than the cool boxes, what's actually new from New Hartford?
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Damon67
Posted 2017-01-20 12:21 PM (#532164 - in reply to #532161)
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d'ovation - 2017-01-20 7:57 AM So other than the cool boxes, what's actually new from New Hartford?

New USA models...

• Glen Campbell 1627 in natural and burst
• Custom Legends in SSB, mid, Contour, AND DEEP! (4 finishes and custom finishes avail)
• Custom Elites same thing... EVEN DEEP!
• Yngwie Vipers classical and steel red or white
• Dave Amato and Kevin Cronin Signature Vipers
• Adamas Vipers, 2 finishes
• Melissa Adamas in 6 or 12
• Kaki King Adamas
• Adamas Mandolin
• Adamas 2087GT 3 finishes
• Adamas 1687GT 3 finishes
• Ovation Longneck D-Scale 2 finishes
• Ovation Koa Mandolin
• Adamas GCF series in a shallow non-cutaway and Deep Contour



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ProfessorBB
Posted 2017-01-20 12:36 PM (#532165 - in reply to #532119)
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So, let's go fretless. No, frets. Fretless. Frets. Oh, WTF, I can't make up my mind.
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d'ovation
Posted 2017-01-20 12:52 PM (#532168 - in reply to #532164)
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Damon67 - 2017-01-20 12:21 PM

d'ovation - 2017-01-20 7:57 AM So other than the cool boxes, what's actually new from New Hartford?

New USA models...

• Glen Campbell 1627 in natural and burst
• Custom Legends in SSB, mid, Contour, AND DEEP! (4 finishes and custom finishes avail)
• Custom Elites same thing... EVEN DEEP!
• Yngwie Vipers classical and steel red or white
• Dave Amato and Kevin Cronin Signature Vipers
• Adamas Vipers, 2 finishes
• Melissa Adamas in 6 or 12
• Kaki King Adamas
• Adamas Mandolin
• Adamas 2087GT 3 finishes
• Adamas 1687GT 3 finishes
• Ovation Longneck D-Scale 2 finishes
• Ovation Koa Mandolin
• Adamas GCF series in a shallow non-cutaway and Deep Contour

Sweet, so there is sone continuity from the pre-DW days it seems. What's the GCF series? And please post a pic of the Koa Mandolin!

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Damon67
Posted 2017-01-20 1:18 PM (#532169 - in reply to #532119)
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GCF=Gloss Carbon Fiber

And correction to the Koa. It's not a mandolin. It's a Koa topped oval holed Elite, similar to the LAV Koa
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jay
Posted 2017-01-20 1:25 PM (#532170 - in reply to #532169)
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Damon, 

That is a pretty agressive lineup! Are all of these guitars in regular production or will some or all be available by order.

 

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Damon67
Posted 2017-01-20 1:36 PM (#532171 - in reply to #532119)
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I agree, very agressive. I have the same questions and am awaiting the response.
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d'ovation
Posted 2017-01-20 1:51 PM (#532174 - in reply to #532165)
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ProfessorBB - 2017-01-20 12:36 PM So, let's go fretless. No, frets. Fretless. Frets. Oh, WTF, I can't make up my mind.

That looks intimidating. I would love to see a demo of this beast being played by a skilled bassman,

 

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Posted 2017-01-20 6:34 PM (#532182 - in reply to #532119)
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Posted 2017-01-20 7:10 PM (#532183 - in reply to #532164)
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Damon67 - 2017-01-20 12:21 PM

d'ovation - 2017-01-20 7:57 AM So other than the cool boxes, what's actually new from New Hartford?

New USA models...

• Glen Campbell 1627 in natural and burst
• Custom Legends in SSB, mid, Contour, AND DEEP! (4 finishes and custom finishes avail)
• Custom Elites same thing... EVEN DEEP!
• Yngwie Vipers classical and steel red or white
• Dave Amato and Kevin Cronin Signature Vipers
• Adamas Vipers, 2 finishes
• Melissa Adamas in 6 or 12
• Kaki King Adamas
• Adamas Mandolin
• Adamas 2087GT 3 finishes
• Adamas 1687GT 3 finishes
• Ovation Longneck D-Scale 2 finishes
• Ovation Koa Mandolin
• Adamas GCF series in a shallow non-cutaway and Deep Contour



That's a serious list of New Hartford O's,did they have an of them on display??Pics Please.
So are they going to have US Custom Legend/Elites as well as Korean models???
New Kaki King and ME Adamas cool,what about the Korean models they were making this year...gone away or just relegated to a lower price point,
So much good news and lots of excitement US Ovations are making a comeback


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Posted 2017-01-20 11:14 PM (#532186 - in reply to #532119)
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Thanks for the NAMM updates and pics ProfessorBB and Damon. I never imagined, DW would take the aggressive strategy so early in the come back; but man, those 2017 cajons and NH made U.S.A. line Os are so impressive! The 50th AV line and NHs comeback was just announced in Japan last Nov/Dec. Just really good to see O coming back strong and where they belong! Not sure if congratulations are in order, but I sure feel like celebrating over here in Asia!
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Posted 2017-01-21 2:13 AM (#532189 - in reply to #532119)
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Posted 2017-01-21 5:57 AM (#532191 - in reply to #532119)
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Excellent report, enjoyed the pictures. Thanks for posting.
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Posted 2017-01-21 6:32 AM (#532192 - in reply to #532119)
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@ProfessorBB - >>>"Of course I don't need it, Dear, but it so matches my hair."<<<

Good approach, Professor! When summer comes and my body goes tan I can apply the same rationale for purchase of some of the darker models.
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Todd G.
Posted 2017-01-21 7:19 AM (#532193 - in reply to #532189)
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ProfessorBB - 2017-01-21 1:13 AM "Of course I don't need it, Dear, but it so matches my hair."

One out, one in, eh?



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red-twins
Posted 2017-01-21 8:05 AM (#532194 - in reply to #532119)
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That Bass is an Ibanez, eh? When I saw the fret markers I first thought it was an Ovation product...

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Posted 2017-01-21 9:40 AM (#532195 - in reply to #532189)
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ProfessorBB - 2017-01-21 2:13 AM

"Of course I don't need it, Dear, but it so matches my hair."


Congratulations ProfessorBB!!! Can't wait to hear what you think of it, once you put it through it's paces!!!
VERY Nice!!!
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Posted 2017-01-21 10:03 AM (#532196 - in reply to #532119)
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It isn't mine, but it sure needs to be.
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Posted 2017-01-21 12:31 PM (#532197 - in reply to #532119)
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I'm lusting after the black version of the Adamas Viper.
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Posted 2017-01-21 1:14 PM (#532198 - in reply to #532119)
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Prof...thanks for the updates...I have been so outta touch....I will bet that new viper would sound great in your hands...tell Bill X we all say hello.
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Posted 2017-01-21 1:37 PM (#532199 - in reply to #532119)
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Me want...

Here is Cal Campbell with the Glen Campbell Signature Guitar.

Here is Cal Campbell with the Glen Campbell Signature Guitar. #ovationguitars #namm2017



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Posted 2017-01-21 8:03 PM (#532201 - in reply to #532119)
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Only need the price on the A Viper to see how much I need to save... one will be mine... Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just need to decide if it matches the now or prior hair... before loss of....
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Their day may have been 45 years ago but some of us still need nothing more!!
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ProfessorBB - 2017-01-21 2:13 AM

"Of course I don't need it, Dear, but it so matches my hair."



Alumitones and Op Pro Studio, I presume. Is the bridge pickup the same that's in the Kaki King?

Edited by Highway61 2017-01-22 12:34 AM
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Posted 2017-01-22 11:44 AM (#532210 - in reply to #532119)
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Beautiful guitars, strong showing!
Loved the cajones! If they don't show up for sale soon I might have to build one or two (innies and outies).
I'm thinking with X bracing.
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https://youtu.be/mZtc99xIjzk
Nice wrap-up. Al P. sighting.
Great to see some natural finish bodies on Vipers.
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I was told NAMM was huge but that doesn't cover it.
Soooo many guitars. Brands you have never seen before and won't see outside the show.
There had to be over a hundred effects bos manufactures.
My Fitbit showed Temp and I walked over 7 miles each day.
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Yup I was there in fact I'm still here ...
Funny how some are representing themselves as if they have an inside track to namm

Want the real deal???
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Yup I was there in fact I'm still here ...
Funny how some are representing themselves as if they have an inside track to namm

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Standingovation - 2017-01-20 7:17 AM I would guess these GC guitars might just be old stock of the LTD with a new label on them. Ovation has made several attempts to reissue the 1627, first as a 40th anniversary model in '06, then the LTD version, then the Vintage lyracord version (which are still being sold as FRG's) and now this one.

So what are the specific differences between these various incarnations? This arfticle has a few details about the specs:

https://www.namm.org/thenammshow/2017/exhibitor-news/ovation-guitars-announces-glen-campbell-signature

I find it interesting that this has a nitro finish, was not aware that Ovations had that before. Also the pre-amp might be the same as was used in the 200G Adamas RI, or not? And I am suprsised about the shallow bowl, was that standard at the time?

 

 



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Thanks for the pix....please keep them coming!
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Posted 2017-01-23 4:41 PM (#532229 - in reply to #532228)
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The 40th 1627 RI, to my recollection, was an extremely nice guitar. Certainly in craftsmanship, but also acoustically. The LTD was basically a re-issue of a reissue?....moving Glens sig to the bottom of the fretboard was the biggest difference I could see. I believe they made 50 of these...half or so were given away to artists when Glen had the tribute at the CMA's. I don't think they finished the full run of the 40th. 

The bowl...if they are staying true to the guitar...should be a mid-depth bowl, which was called the "artist depth" back in the day.  Funny that Glen appeared to prefer deep bowls for acoustics, as time passed. I have no idea why they would tie a shallow bowl to Glen. 

I have no idea what the "Campbell iconic 1771" is in reference to.

It is nice of them to include Glen's name in their production of guitars. As far as the guitar goes...the signature is spot on, which is why they probably called it the "Glen Campbell Signature guitar"

 



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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-23 5:27 PM (#532231 - in reply to #532119)
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I'm lost on the Glen Campbell model also,my GC is a 1972 1127 acoustic only with the artist-mid-depth bowl,the electronic version they came out with later was a 1627 I believe,a 1771 is a mid-depth cutaway balladeer so I don't know what they're talking about but it is cool they are honoring his contribution to ovations history.
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Artist Depth is more shallow than Mid Depth
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Posted 2017-01-23 11:37 PM (#532246 - in reply to #532119)
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I have #50/50 of the 1627 LTD, so I'd be curious on the comment of old stock.
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Hi, Everyone,
Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I have read in several interviews that Glen Campbell specifically asked Charlie Kaman to re-design the deep bowl GC Ovation, because it hurt his back, and so Ovation introduced the GC Artist Depth Bowl. The pre-amp was also his idea. Glen did play deep-bowl 12-Strings, and the Elite Series later, but the Artist Depth bowl was initially made for him.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-01-24 12:33 PM (#532251 - in reply to #532119)
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That info was in the book from 1996. Campbell started with a deep bowl, went to the shallow bowl for about 3-4 years, then back to a deep bowl for about 20 years. Finally, on stage, went to an acoustic Viper. But still played a deep bowl at times. Some of the artist depth bowls I heard him play sounded horrible and some sounded very good. Lotta different guitars......
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jay
Posted 2017-01-24 2:10 PM (#532252 - in reply to #532251)
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Paul,

When you say "shallow" are you referring the artist bowl of the day?

On the Goodbye tour, the neck to Glens Viper was broken and during the time it was being repaired, he played his black custom legend. I remember seeing one video where, sadly, he was arguing with Ashley that the CL wasn't the guitar he was supposed to have and she was trying to "remind" him about breaking the Viper.

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leonardmccoy
Posted 2017-01-24 4:38 PM (#532262 - in reply to #532119)
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The US Glen Campbell model confirmed to come with a cedar top. In addition to the US model, there will be Korean versions of it at a more affordable price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OIKM2tY3bM
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-01-26 1:03 PM (#532292 - in reply to #532262)
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leonardmccoy - 2017-01-24 4:38 PM The US Glen Campbell model confirmed to come with a cedar top.

That looks like spruce to me... and should be if they are recreating the original. Maybe he mis-spoke?

 

Anyway... here's another good vid clip from Guitar World:



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Standingovation
Posted 2017-01-26 2:59 PM (#532293 - in reply to #532119)
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I agree with Jonmark. Definitely does not look like cedar to me. And it would seem to be an odd choice for this guitar. Unless of course their marketing research has concluded that 90% of anyone interesting in a GC tribute guitar already has some version (shiny bowl, artist, reissue, LTD ...) and maybe these same folks would pony up to have a matching one with cedar top ?

What's your folks take on all these funky drum woods used for tops? It's cool to see some DW influence and I'll admit some of these do look stunning hanging on a wall. But somehow there is nothing about them that makes me want to own one.
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d'ovation
Posted 2017-01-26 3:17 PM (#532294 - in reply to #532293)
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Standingovation - 2017-01-26 2:59 PM What's your folks take on all these funky drum woods used for tops? It's cool to see some DW influence and I'll admit some of these do look stunning hanging on a wall. But somehow there is nothing about them that makes me want to own one.

I have to admit that the variety of exotic woods do absolutely nothing for me, appearance of the guitar is pretty far down on the list. What I care about is what's under the hood, and that's where the historical strength of Ovation was which attracted me to the bowls. It certainly would be nice to have some innovation back, for example in neck construction or creative use of carbon fibre materials etc. 

IMO, funky looking guitars may appeal more to younger generations for whom guitars might also be more disposable. So hopefully there's a new market there.

 

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-01-26 3:27 PM (#532296 - in reply to #532119)
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I liked the Vipers and the mando. The guitars that were cool looking were those without epi's. New Ovations aren't really geared to me. I still want a guitar that sounds great acoustically. My old 1537 and other O's I own pretty well meet my needs.
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2017-01-26 3:35 PM (#532297 - in reply to #532119)
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You're right, he must have misspoken for some reason. According to the official NAMM site (link), these are the actual specs:

Glen Campbell Signature Model (US)

  • precise recreation of Campbell's iconic “1771” model
  • handcrafted in Ovation’s Custom Shop located in New Hartford, CT
  • AA solid Sitka Spruce top
  • shallow "Vintage Style Lyrachord" body
  • 5-piece mahogany/maple neck 
  • ebony fingerboard w/ classic diamond inlays and a mother of pearl Glen Campbell signature
  • walnut bridge
  • center sound hole design w/ inlaid maple leaf rosettes
  • FET preamp (stereo output, old-school volume and tone controls)
  • available in hand-sprayed Natural or Sunburst nitrocellulose lacquer
  • comes with 9158-0 deluxe molded case
  • for a mere 1,699 USD
Can't wait for Al to weigh in on this for confirmation.

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2017-01-26 4:07 PM (#532298 - in reply to #532119)
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I thought he misspoke. The exotic woods don't do much for me. I've gone through that phase with bubinga in the 99 Collector, the nutmeg that I gave my daughter and the LAVKoa that I still have. None of them draw me to them as far as the sound. The don't necessarily sound dead, but the hard wood or plywood used in the top just doesn't sound as good as spruce or cedar to me. The carbon fiber tops are altogether different, but have a resonance and volume that exceeds the spruce. Laminated or hardwood tops and mid or shallow bowls may be fine for someone who plays plugged in, but I just like the sound of the original Ovations better.
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jay
Posted 2017-01-26 4:08 PM (#532299 - in reply to #532297)
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Well, this doesn't bode well for the model or their knowledge of the guy who made it all possible for Ovation

  • precise recreation of Campbell's iconic “1771” model

A mitigating factor is...Ovation made some doggone good models that are available on the secondary market for a fraction of the price. I remember a thread from a while ago where there was a Tone+Bling scale. I am not seeing much coming out of DW in terms of working Ovation towards a killer tone...just a lot of bling (Adamas aside). 

As I said before...I appreciate DW's effort to reestablish the brand and provide jobs. Maybe they will, at some point, attempt to play with Torrefied woods, different bracing etc. 

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d'ovation
Posted 2017-01-26 5:04 PM (#532300 - in reply to #532119)
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So the list price for GC looks quite reasonable wonder what retail will be. So did they use nitro finish on ovations in the past or is this something they inherited from guild?
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Posted 2017-01-26 5:46 PM (#532301 - in reply to #532300)
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d'ovation - 2017-01-26 3:04 PM So the list price for GC looks quite reasonable wonder what retail will be.

 

"for a mere 1,699 USD"

That is the discounted price. Retail is $2350



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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-01-26 5:52 PM (#532302 - in reply to #532300)
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d'ovation - 2017-01-26 5:04 PM So did they use nitro finish on ovations in the past or is this something they inherited from guild?

The early years, yes. Look at the ebay pics of #60 Beal just bought. That yellowing is tell-tale nitro. The cataylized finish they transitioned to doesn't yellow/darken like that. 



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alpep
Posted 2017-01-26 6:51 PM (#532303 - in reply to #532119)
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The go is a recreation of the original much like the reissue of about 10 years ago
It's a nice guitar
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-26 8:53 PM (#532304 - in reply to #532293)
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Standingovation - 2017-01-26 2:59 PM


What's your folks take on all these funky drum woods used for tops? It's cool to see some DW influence and I'll admit some of these do look stunning hanging on a wall. But somehow there is nothing about them that makes me want to own one.


I watched the video and there calling them "DW Collectors series Ovations" I wonder if these are made the same way as the previous collectors model "panemeisters" or a thin laminate "finish ply" like DW does with there drums or a solid top,DW makes some gorgeous kits but I think the type of instrument is very different from drums to acoustic guitars,drums start with a multi ply shell so a thin piece of fancy wood probably has less affect on the tone than a guitar where your looking for a solid piece of tonewood,just my thoughts.

I love the look of the "sapele" legend and from what i've read it's similar to mahogany so if it had a solid top it would be interesting to play/hear,kudos to DW for being inventive and I hope they keep the Ovation label going for years.

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Todd G.
Posted 2017-01-26 9:12 PM (#532305 - in reply to #532119)
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I believe the specs show these guitars as laminated--finish laminate over Sitka spruce.

That Sapele top is gorgeous on the Legend and the Elite.
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alpep
Posted 2017-01-27 11:58 AM (#532307 - in reply to #532119)
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yup laminated
they match dw drum kits
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kentrookie
Posted 2017-01-28 12:51 AM (#532315 - in reply to #532119)
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Sigh...........

the word laminate for a guitar top carries such a negative connotation.
....how 'bout
a choice premium veneer ,showcasing the beauty of the wood ,over a solid spruce top

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Patch
Posted 2017-01-28 8:08 AM (#532319 - in reply to #532119)
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I like what  Beal said about my Bubinga top: "It's a panel master, but it's a really nice panel master."

He's dead right too.

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titti
Posted 2017-01-28 11:35 AM (#532323 - in reply to #532319)
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...hi folks, from the Namm, a new brochure AD Ovation 1917 , if you are interested in more photos...good vision http://imgur.com/a/bzX6l

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titti
Posted 2017-01-29 7:37 AM (#532350 - in reply to #532119)
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no comment? Boh, but here is the other pages ... http://imgur.com/a/63u1b http://imgur.com/a/H0AO1 http://imgur.com/a/9yA3j
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Posted 2017-01-29 7:40 AM (#532351 - in reply to #532119)
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...more : http://imgur.com/a/wtxEI http://imgur.com/a/dNl2i http://imgur.com/a/cGlh6
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Posted 2017-01-29 7:44 AM (#532352 - in reply to #532119)
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...and the last :

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jay
Posted 2017-01-29 9:09 AM (#532354 - in reply to #532352)
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"A contemporary version of the electronics that launched the Adams acoustic/electric line in  1979"

 

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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-29 9:25 AM (#532355 - in reply to #532119)
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Thanks for the pics,It says cedar 1627 on the bottom but I read earlier AA spruce,it also compares the preamp controls to the Adamas yet the picture shows a stacked volume/tone knob,does DW need us to proof read there AD's for them you know were all OCD about our ovations LOL
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jay
Posted 2017-01-29 9:48 AM (#532357 - in reply to #532355)
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There is really nothing OCD about it. It is attention to detail. Not only in what they let out in print, but inaccurate references to historic Ovation guitars. I guess it is the QC on the guitars that matters. 

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titti
Posted 2017-01-29 10:12 AM (#532358 - in reply to #532357)
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jay - 2017-01-29 4:48 PM

There is really nothing OCD about it. It is attention to detail. Not only in what they let out in print, but inaccurate references to historic Ovation guitars. I guess it is the QC on the guitars that matters. 

... What is OCD? thanks
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-29 10:25 AM (#532359 - in reply to #532119)
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OCD obsessive compulsive disorder I was making a joke because we are into our favorite guitars so intensely we know every detail.
I love ovations and know-or know where to look to find info on most models and would like accurate info/specs on new models.

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Posted 2017-01-29 11:19 AM (#532360 - in reply to #532119)
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Ovation Collector's Distraction...
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titti
Posted 2017-01-29 11:46 AM (#532362 - in reply to #532119)
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...in Italy we say : GAS
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Posted 2017-01-29 1:36 PM (#532367 - in reply to #532360)
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MWoody - 2017-01-29 12:19 PM Ovation Collector's Distraction...

I'm not sure how yet, but I'm stealing that for my Psychology class....



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leonardmccoy
Posted 2017-02-02 11:18 AM (#532482 - in reply to #532159)
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Standingovation - 2017-01-20 7:17 AM I would guess these GC guitars might just be old stock of the LTD with a new label on them. Ovation has made several attempts to reissue the 1627, first as a 40th anniversary model in '06, then the LTD version, then the Vintage lyracord version (which are still being sold as FRG's) and now this one. Plus I'm sure there will be a "tribute" model after he passes. Bottom line is that these were great guitars and groundbreaking in their day. Unfortunately that day was 45 years ago.

They may no longer be groundbreaking, true – but I would argue that those Os are still great guitars today, just like a Martin D-28 or Gibson J-200 from the thirties is still a great guitar today.

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