Acoustic Monster cable?
ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-06-29 7:03 PM (#92229)
Subject: Acoustic Monster cable?



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So I'm cruising through GC looking for a Planet Waves circuit breaker cable (which later on didn't work worth beans) and I see that Monster has a top shelf cable specifically for acoustic guitars. Let's see, acoustic guitar, acoustic pedals, acoustic amp, acoustic strings, acoustic PA settings, now do I really need an acoustic cable as well? Anybody do an A/B on one of these?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-06-29 7:10 PM (#92230 - in reply to #92229)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Monster cable?


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Is it the same as the one you got with the OFC guitar? I haven't tried mine yet.
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-29 7:11 PM (#92231 - in reply to #92229)
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Of course you need an acoustic guitar cable. It's designed to enhance the unique spectrum of frequencies produced by a solid state preamp pushed by a piezo pickup.

Of course, if you have one of those pickups that has a piezo *and* a tiny condenser microphone that hangs down inside the box, well, you have to buy the special "hybrid guitar cable."

:rolleyes:
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jazzjava
Posted 2007-06-29 7:17 PM (#92232 - in reply to #92229)
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How about AET warm? it has also 'acoustic' on its ad.
C!!! :p
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giuseppe
Posted 2007-06-29 7:41 PM (#92233 - in reply to #92229)
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So I'm cruising through GC looking for a Planet Waves circuit breaker cable (which later on didn't work worth beans)
I recently ordered a planet waves circuit breaker cable online, still waiting to arrive. i didn't know they had issues... :confused:
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noah
Posted 2007-06-30 2:46 AM (#92234 - in reply to #92229)
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Professor, The Monster "acoustic" Guitar Cable was reviewed in 2005...
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-06-30 8:37 AM (#92235 - in reply to #92229)
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Just buy a set of string tubes they will do the same thing for a lot less.

I just can't imagine anyone can specifically build an electrical cable that can identify and and favor an electronic signal from one pickup or another.
Sounds like buying motor oil that is specifically engineered for a 4 cylinder motor.
It's all freekin motor oil..........only difference in any oil is the viscossity rating under heat (usually the second number) and the cold weight number (thickness). Synthetic or mineral and I am not sure if you can even buy non detergent oil anymore. They package it specifically for the people who believe the packaging. It works all the time.

Keep the whirlwinds and your 80 bucks. But what do I know.........I build scale models for a living.......... music is just a passing fancy for me.

Randy
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-30 9:02 AM (#92236 - in reply to #92229)
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I fully enjoy my friend BrianT's rant in this thread. Brian is a master of sarcasim which at times, does not translate well to this medium. But this time, he nailed it.
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-30 9:15 AM (#92237 - in reply to #92229)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
...I build scale models for a living...
Scale models of whom? :p :D Seriously, scale models of buildings? Like, for an architect's office?
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Brian T
Posted 2007-06-30 12:27 PM (#92238 - in reply to #92229)
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I'm marketing a new line of guitar cables that is actually "tuned" to the type of music you play. Through a proprietary secret process we carefully vary the insulator and conductor composition to bring out the best frequency response for various genres. So far we have cables matched for light-rock, 60's British invasion, sappy country stuff, and Acid rock. They may look like any other cable, but trust me, there is massive mojo under that black rubber jacket.

You need one of these cables dude. It's the last link in the chain that will put your sound over the top. All this for only $125 for a 12 footer or $155 for a 20 footer. Send me your money now and I'll ship your cable immediately, Can you afford to wait? Your chance for good tone is slipping by.
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Brian T
Posted 2007-06-30 12:45 PM (#92239 - in reply to #92229)
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My researchers are also almost ready to release our newest custom cable, this one is designed especially for left handed players. Now you lefty's no longer have to fumble around with the typical right-handed instrument cable, this one is designed especially for you!!

You can pick up on at our special pre-release price of $99.95 plus shipping.
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-30 1:12 PM (#92240 - in reply to #92229)
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Do the plugs go the other direction for lefty cables?
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FlySig
Posted 2007-06-30 3:51 PM (#92241 - in reply to #92229)
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From a technical standpoint, I could see that perhaps a cable is built with a different resistance or inductance or capacitance to try to match the type of pickup. But, once you run the original signal through a preamp it doesn't matter one little bit what type of pickup was used.

Our local shop is now selling "left handed guitar strings". The wound strings are reverse-wound so the tuning process won't un-wind them. Plus, the Coriolis effect doesn't counteract the normal harmonic vibration decay with the reverse winding. I think these are the same thing as Southern Hemisphere guitar strings, but I'm not sure. Those might have the ball attached to the other end in addition to the reverse winding. ;)
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an4340
Posted 2007-06-30 8:52 PM (#92242 - in reply to #92229)
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There may be something to it, but I've always just used electric guitar cables for my ovations. I never knew I had a problem.

I also, when playing an ovation run an electric guitar cable from the alesis mixer I use as my effects box to the PA. Again, I never knew I had a problem.
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cholloway
Posted 2007-07-01 1:10 AM (#92243 - in reply to #92229)
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Soon we'll have more "special gadgets" than training apparatus for golfers!
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-07-01 8:54 AM (#92244 - in reply to #92229)
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Cruster.......I make models for museums. Point is what do I know about cables right?

Randy
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alpep
Posted 2007-07-01 12:15 PM (#92245 - in reply to #92229)
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the cables I included with the OFC guitar are the jazz/acoustic cables
do I feel cables can be maximized for performance?
yes
do I believe the cable knows what kind of music is going through it?
no
bottom line monster cables are excellent, a no questions asked warranty and they are durable.
expensive but worth it
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-07-02 10:06 AM (#92246 - in reply to #92229)
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I received a jazz cable and packed in the gig bag. Excellent cable. I just wasn't aware that specialized "acoustic" cables were out.

The Planet Waves circuit breaker cable works differently than how I had expected. The button on the end plug is an on/off switch. I thought it was "push for off/release for on". I worked with it over the weekend and got it figured out. However, when it is shut off and I remove the cable from the guitar (to save the battery) there is still the occasional characteristic pop in the amp which I'm worried will carry over to the house sound system. At home, it doesn't always happen, so maybe it has something to do with static. I can only eliminate the pop by turning down the volume on the amp. Any other suggestions?
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alpep
Posted 2007-07-02 10:09 AM (#92247 - in reply to #92229)
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brad
when I bought the cables they were listed as jazz/acoustic
apparently now they have a special jazz cable.

LOL I wonder if it is for standards or fusion?
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-02 11:31 AM (#92248 - in reply to #92229)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
Cruster.......I make models for museums. Point is what do I know about cables right?

Randy
No, I had no point (do I ever?). I just thought it was cool that you built scale models and I wondered what you were modeling. Do you have pictures available on a web site somewhere? I think it'd be neat to check out.
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-07-02 1:55 PM (#92249 - in reply to #92229)
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Your right. I have a great 7 1/2' long model of the North River Steamboat under construction and am actually carving the crew out of small blocks of wood right now because ya just can't find 1/20th scale figures that are dressed for the 1807 era. I do need to build a web site if only for my own resume.....Let me email you a couple of cool shots. I have all kinds of projects I am supposed to be doing but my time is being tapped because of this model and another steamboat identical to it (but slightly smaller) for a private buyer.

Randy
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-07-02 2:14 PM (#92250 - in reply to #92229)
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Went in to tell you I did not see an address in your options so if you'd email me I can email back.

Time ran out.........Can I ask what the time limit is on this option? can I also suggest you bump it up to 45 minutes or so??

Sometime ya have to step away from the computer (I know some of you have a hard time doing this like Cliff!) and when you sit down again for a few minutes it's to late to correct a simple mistake. Just a suggestion for what it's worth??

By the way to keep on topic, Al...you mentioned have some of these cords....could ya try one out for the purpose of giving us a description of what you feel the difference (if any) is? I too am always looking for an advantage in my acoustic guitar sound.

Randy
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-02 2:29 PM (#92251 - in reply to #92229)
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I want one of Brian T's cables. Brian, do you make them in 250 foot lengths? :p
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an4340
Posted 2007-07-02 3:26 PM (#92252 - in reply to #92229)
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Nope, no A/B on electric versus acoustic because I thought everything was working well enough.

BUT

I have a noticed a difference in that extremely long cables degrade the sound. The cut off seems 18 feet.
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-07-02 3:53 PM (#92253 - in reply to #92229)
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I have a 25' whirlwind that I wanted to try so I could move a round a little more. All my other cords are 18's....... The 25 is surprisingly OK....... so far no trouble or noticable difference at all. Perhaps the cord length is more important on an older or passive pickup electric guitar or bass??

Randy
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brainslag
Posted 2007-07-02 4:00 PM (#92254 - in reply to #92229)
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Ive been using the planet waves cable for a coupe of years now. I love it. The sound guy cant keep an eye on you all the time to hit mute before you unplug.
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Brian T
Posted 2007-07-02 5:51 PM (#92255 - in reply to #92229)
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In all seriousness, I don't dispute that Monster makes a high quality cable, I actually own a couple of them. I also recognise the importance of high quality cables. I just think it is plain silly to claim that a cable is "tuned" to a paticular instrument. Ohms is Ohms. Impedance is Impedance. Frequency responce is frequency response. Anything else is total horse feathers and marketing hype.

Also, I can provide my custom cables in 250 foot lengths, there will be an extra charge of $10 per foot plus extra shipping. Email me if you still want one.
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Slartibartfast
Posted 2007-07-02 11:16 PM (#92256 - in reply to #92229)
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I've always kept cables sorted by which key they work best with. In other words, if you're playing in C then you pick the C cable, when you change to G you stop and swap in the G cable. What's really cool is when you substitute cables tuned for relative minors and then play in the major key...it can add some very nice presence to the piece.

BTW, I have the equipment to tune cables like this but it's pretty labor intensive so they're expensive. The effects are definitely worth it, though. Once you've used my hand-tuned cables you'll never waste money on that Monster marketing-hype crap again.*


*Of course, you'll probably never send ME money again, either, but that's a secondary effect...
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