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Location: ranson,wva | i got my '07 ovation and adamas catalogs,price list in the mail saturday, i was looking thru the custom shop catalog and noticed that the long neck is a option on the necks...i wonder if they could do a carved,slotted 1 7/8 long neck??? jason |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Yes and hopefully my slothead 2080 baritone 6 and 12 string will be arriving very soon! |
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Location: ranson,wva | im anxious to see pics of yours and mikes custom bari's.....jason |
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Location: Germany | My understanding is that they currently don't offer the 1 7/8 slotted carved neck. Without carving it should be no problem, look at this: Adamas wide long neck
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Location: Angoulême - France | I can give your the good answer Johnny : they are really not able to do that, I tried it, really not possible. They can do that with 1 3/4 width nut but not 1 7/8, except if you do it with a non carved walnut (or ebony) bridge, so forget it and with 1 7/8 width think about a 1680 NWT slotted peghead or Adamas 1 non slotted peghead, I took the first choice fort the custom I recently ordered and 'm waiting for now...
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Location: ranson,wva | last i talked to the guys at the factory they told me they can do a carved slothead on a 1 7/8 nut.....ive got the custom shop catalog in front of me, and they are options on it...jason |
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Location: Angoulême - France | I know the custom shop catalog but what it was the factory answer a few monthes ago, now perhaps different if they modified toolings to do it ? But I don't think so.... Perhaps Alpep could tell us more about that particular specification ?
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Location: NJ | the slothead adamas 1 57 RI neck is currently only avail in 1 3/4
other sloted headstock necks may be avail in other widths I am not sure.
thinks like this change all the time. believe me it drives me crazy at times.
best is to check by trying to place an order. |
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Location: Portland, OR | I want a catalog! how did you obtain one? I don't remember seeing a catalog request on the website.. perhaps you are special??! |
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Location: Germany | Here's the catalog:
Adamas Custom Shop
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Location: Angoulême - France | I agree with Alex : try to place an order! I did it and the answer was negative, but december 2005...
Rémy |
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Location: Angoulême - France | Oups.... december 2006 ! |
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Location: Portland, OR | Thanks for the link, Karl.. I guess that's as good as it gets.. but I wanted a full blown, here's a picutre of every option, and price of every option available! Then I want to go online and be able to virtually build it like you can with some car companies! THAT would be something.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Like a Carvin catalog?
(hint) |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I can't wait to hear about the 12 string baritone. |
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Location: Portland, OR | Originally posted by MWoody:
Like a Carvin catalog?
(hint) Are you hinting that I should ditch these newfangled plasticbacks and get a Carvin? Or that ovation may follow suit and step up their catalog!! :D |
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Location: ranson,wva | when i put in for my quote a few months back it was for a carved and slotted, 1 7/8 nut long neck adamas....like al said things change.....todd,just go to the ovation site and send ask us at bla bla bla a email asking for the new catalogs and the custom shop catalog...i had mine a week latter....jason |
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Location: Australia | ....I'd interested to know if anyone has actually placed an order with the A custom shop. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by richardd:
....I'd interested to know if anyone has actually placed an order with the A custom shop. been doing it for 3 or more years now |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I did. |
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| <<<....I'd interested to know if anyone has actually placed an order with the A custom shop.
Al: been doing it for 3 or more years now>>>
I thought the Custom Adamas shop was a new 2007 NAMM thing!!?? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My view on this is that the concept of "Custom Shop" has always been in existence with those few customer focussed dealers that didn't mind going to the extra effort to custom order EXACTLY what the customer desired. Even if it took countless exchanges of emails, phone calls at all hours, photos, etc. It's a significant amount of extra effort for the dealer. The only difference as of NAMM '07 is that the factory now seems interested to more widely advertise this capability to the public. and maybe have some guidelines of base models and options to work from. Make no mistake, it's still a lot of work for the dealer. Dave |
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Location: Australia | Yeah well I've custom ordered an Adamas before too, but I'm referring to the new formalised CS with a list of options that probably most of us were never aware of. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think the only difference is that now the custom order isn't limited to just what you may think you want off the top of your head, but you can look at the catalog or website and maybe get additional ideas.
For example a few years ago I custom ordered an adamas and asked for gloss neck and no electronics. If I had the catalog to stimulate me, I probably would have gotten torty binding, a wide skunk, and a boner nut as well.
As far as I know the ordering process is unchanged, just contact your dealer.
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Location: Australia | Your right on the money Tuppy. |
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Location: Angoulême - France | I orderered my custom Adamas in december 2005, waiting for it now, not yet in works, somes specs aren't on their new custom catalog, for example a custom shape for the left rosette, you'll see it in a few monthes....
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Location: Australia | What are the spec's Remy, if I may ask ?
It sounds like a guitar worth waiting for. |
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Location: Angoulême - France | Here are the exact spec's Richard : a sober and sounding Adamas, on the paper for the moment...
Rémy
Body : Deep Bowl Cutaway
Table Top : Unidirectional Carbon Graphite
Table Attachment : Suspended Top
Purfling : Ornate Ring
Bracing : Quintad
Scale Length : 25 ¼ “
Peg Head Face : Black Satin
Slot Head : 1680 NWT model
Logo Adamas : Gold
Neck Carve : Round Flat
Neck Thickness : 0.80” 1st fret - 0.85” 9th fret
Neck Width at Nut : 1 7/8”
Neck Width at 12th fret : 2 ¼”
Neck Angle : 0°
Neck Woods : Walnut, two pieces
Neck Finish : Natural Satin
Neck to Body Junction : 12th fret
Fretboard Wood : Deluxe Grade Ebony
Fretboard Radius : 10”
Fretboard End : Beveled
Fretboard Inlays : None
Fretboard Pearloid Dots : 3, 5, 7, 9, double 12 and 15
Rosette : 13 pieces exotic hardwood - no red woods - custom cut out and shape
Bridge : Ebony – Pinless – Satin Finish
Pickup : Under Saddle Pickup
Bridge Saddle : TUSQ® B compensated
Pre-amp : VIP-5
Machines : Gold Schaller with Pearloid Buttons
Strings Setting : Elixir Nanoweb Light 12/53
Color Natural Vintage : Pantone 134 C + 3-5% Gold Sequins
Case : 9158-0 |
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Location: SoCal | Wow. When I considered ordering one I just specified that it have 6 strings and be in tune.... |
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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Wow. When I considered ordering one I just specified that it have 6 strings and be in tune.... Damn he's up early! Must have to snatch a naughty wife or sumptin. LOL! |
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Location: NJ | Color Natural Vintage : Pantone 134 C + 3-5% Gold Sequins:
Unusual color.
I'm assuming that's what they "guesstimate" t'get a fibre top t'look like aged spruce (hence the +/- 3-5%)
Sounds like an interesting guitar. |
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Location: NW NJ | Originally posted by Rémy:
I orderered my custom Adamas in december 2005, waiting for it now, not yet in works, somes specs aren't on their new custom catalog, for example a custom shape for the left rosette, you'll see it in a few monthes....
Remy You sir, are a PATIENT man ... |
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Location: Angoulême - France | You're right Cliff, it's like a natural vintage spruce guitar with an original graphite table(damned crazy guy !), ebony fingerboard without inlays, like a classical guitar, beveled end of fingerboard like original Adamas and 47 RI, the rosette is exactly this Marcel DADI's Adamas here... yes unusual Adamas....sounding is important too (deep bowl, 12 cases, acoustic saddle, suspended ring)......
http://www.ovationtribute.com/Adamas_Slotheads/Other_Slotheads/Adam... |
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Location: NJ | Ah!, . . . the Bell's Palsy eppaulette . . .
Robbie's right, . . . you ARE being very patient. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | A stroke of brillience. |
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Location: Angoulême - France | The Bell's Palsy eppaulette : could you explain me that ? About patience.... it was ordered in december.... 2006...2 monthes ago... sorry ! |
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Location: NJ | Bell's Palsy is just a tasteless joke . . . sorry.
I'm not sure if I'd have the patience of waiting even a couple of months . . .
Don't forget t'post some pics when you get it! |
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Location: SoCal | Cliff is so damned tacky in naming a specific affliction. I, being the tasteful person that I am, always just said that it looked like an Adamas with a stroke.......
Remy, it's going to be a great guitar when you get it. Definitely, post pics. |
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Location: Angoulême - France | Thanks Moody. I just love this "stroke" Adamas, memories from my dear siprit father and friend Marcel DADI : I couldn't do a custom Adamas without that link with him !
Cliff : I'm proud to be the owner of his amazing and non stroke Adamas here, I love it too !
http://www.ovationtribute.com/Adamas_Slotheads/Other_Slotheads/Adam... |
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Location: NJ | VeryNice. |
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Location: SoCal | Remy, that Adamas is flat out beautiful! Doesn't it have a more modern preamp on it, or am I thinking of another guitar? |
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Location: ranson,wva | beautiful remy....jason |
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Location: Angoulême - France | You're right Moody : years ago, I made modify the bridge and replaced all original electronics(damned crazy guy !) by just a film piezo b-band (and acoustic tusq saddle) with jack preamp : great acoustic sounding now, and more natural electro, but not really the standard sounding now, but I really love it, really great sounding !
Remy |
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Location: Angoulême - France | You'll find there one of the many links with The Pantone Color system. The factory needs that reference for a non stock choice color. For my custom order it's a "134" with 3-5% gold sequins, no more (as usual Adamas), because the idea is a relative sober Adamas, the factory tried to dissuade me with that plain and non reverse burst color on a graphite table, but I did it...
Remy
http://www.blueinkblot.com/colorguide.shtml |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
Yes and hopefully my slothead 2080 baritone 6 and 12 string will be arriving very soon! Hey Stephen,
Did you ever get these twin baritones ??? |
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Location: Up North | stephent28 was banned June 9th, for "attacking, harassing and ridiculing" Al. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Huh? I didn't read it that way.
Anyway, Stephen if your reading this and want to email that would be cool. Otherwise not. Just really curious what a 12-string baritone adamas must sound like. Beware of OSHA requirements.
Dave |
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Location: NJ | ". . Just really curious what a 12-string baritone adamas must sound like . ."
You played one (Bill's) at my house last month . . . |
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Location: Cicero, NY | ...and...?
...what DID it sound like? Anything like some of us are thinking it did? Even with DAVE playing it? |
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Location: Midland, MI | I bet it sounded like a uke with a really deep voice. And extra strings. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | :D |
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Location: Midland, MI | I'll just go ahead and call this one myself..."John, quit being a PITA!"
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| last i talked to the guys at the factory they told me they can do a carved slothead on a 1 7/8 nut.... Jason, did you talk to the guys at the custom shop? :confused: |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Grif:
stephent28 was banned June 9th, for "attacking, harassing and ridiculing" Al. tell me more Grif
this should be entertaining. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
". . Just really curious what a 12-string baritone adamas must sound like . ."
You played one (Bill's) at my house last month . . . I'm curious what the 2080 version baritone 12 will sound like. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by Grif:
stephent28 was banned June 9th, for "attacking, harassing and ridiculing" Al. tell me more Grif
this should be entertaining. Right here. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Dave, it would be just like mine except that ity will have a little less #@#@$ but more &*^ to make up for it.
Frankly I think that many strings tuned that low get too many frequencys moving at once. Bari 6s are fine, I think 12s are too much. But Hey, what the hell does a gas station guy know? |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by Grif:
stephent28 was banned June 9th, for "attacking, harassing and ridiculing" Al. tell me more Grif
this should be entertaining. Right here. great waskel now explain exactly what the problem is? and you tell me exactly what YOU think happened.
this will be interesting. |
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Location: NJ | ". . Just really curious what a 12-string baritone adamas must sound like . ."
Sorry, . . . I don't know HOW it was that I mis-read that . . . :p
The LongNeck deep-bowl Adamas-12 sounds AWESOME!
I agree with Bill in that there ARE a lotta' things going on at once, and it does have the potential t'sound a bit muddy if not played right, but for picking out melodies or playing arpeggiated chords, it's like having a baby grand strapped to your chest. I LOVE playing it!!
I usually keep the 12 tuned to D, as when you start going lower the harmony strings get a bit "rattly". I've got D'Add EJ38's (Lights) on it. Probably could go heavier and get a lower tuning, but I like it at D (or sometimes a Double-Drop C) and cahpo-up to play with the band. If I need t'go lower, I'll switch to the 6 with Heavy strings. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Cliff, you didn't misread it. I was was not specific enough in my question. Anyway, I thought that the regular Adamas baritone was a bit "over the top" for strumming cowboy chords. Almost too much of a good thing. No doubt picking out melodies would be a great sound. Was wondering if the 2080 might have tamed it down just a tad. But it would be impossible for Stephen to say, I guess because he would have to A/B the 2080D12 and AdamasD12 side by side. Dave |
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Location: closely held secret | Al, I simply posted a link to the thread in which you officially suspended a 3 year member. Other than claiming he "harassed and ridiculed" you and he "attacked and harassed the administrator" you didn't give any details.
There's no way I could explain it given those vague accusations. As for what I 'think' happened, it would be improper and presumptuous for me to go into that here, as I have only heard one side of the story.
In truth, the details are unimportant to me compared to the fact that a member in good standing, who has made nearly 6000 helpful and informative posts, was summarily suspended publicly with no opportunity to respond to the accusations. |
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Location: Up North | Stephen
I have reconsidered. You are worth my time. In fact, as all members here are.
Please take this as formal notice of a pending 30 day suspension of your priviledges here. After the 30 day period you can send an e mail requesting that your account be reactivated.
I am very tired of playing word games, correcting posted mis information and ultimately being harassed and ridiculed by your ilk.
My suggestion is to find another message baord where you can attack and harass the administrator.
have a great day. Your words Al, not mine. |
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Location: NJ | Grif and Waskel
I strongly suggest you look up the words "notice" and "pending" before you jump to any ill conclusions.
If stephen is not posting it is currently his choice. |
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Location: Up North | Notice: A formal announcement, notification, or warning, especially an announcement of one's intention to withdraw from an agreement.
Pending: Imminent, about to happen.
If Stephent28 chose to leave this forum, it's a shame, but I could see why he would. |
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Location: SoCal | But Hey, what the hell does a gas station guy know?
"Former" gas station guy.... It's the former that gives you a certain amount of credibility..... |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by cwk2:
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Frankly I think that many strings tuned that low get too many frequencys moving at once. Bari 6s are fine, I think 12s are too much. But Hey, what the hell does a gas station guy know? I had a dream the night before last that I was playing a dark brown sunburst Ultra 12-string (yeah, WTF is up with that!?). No matter what I did, even down to focusing on putting one finger on one course on one fret, I could not get the thing to sound notes cleanly. It sounded muffled, yet thin at the same time, and the notes that did come out decayed almost as soon as they were sounded.
I'm not a big believer in the 'hidden meaning of dreams' but I think that one was sending me a pretty clear message...stop drinking cheap Canadian beer masquerading as cheap Australian beer (yes, Foster's in Michigan is brewed/bottled in Canada). |
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Location: Australia | ....I don't know anyone in Australia that drinks Fosters |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I once drank tap water in Belarus...spent 3 days in the hospital with amebic dysentery when I returned home...(I'd say no #@*% here but it is too poignant to remember)...
Blessings... |
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Location: Australia | ....the taste of Belarus tap water is probably not dissimilar to the taste of Fosters |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by richardd:
....the taste of Belarus tap water is probably not dissimilar to the taste of Fosters It (Foster's, not Belarus tap water) is not one of my favorites. But, when you're given a case of the stuff, you have to get rid of it somehow. I like to do the fake "Outback Steakhouse Australian voiceover guy" voice when I open one and say, "Fawstuh's....Can-aye-gin fo-uh bee-uh." It adds a little something to the experience. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Y'all get the feeling Crusty would be happy in a room all by himself? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Y'all get the feeling Crusty would be happy in a room all by himself? You just landed yourself in that broad classification I like to call "other people", mister. As in, "The world would be a great place....if it weren't for all these other people!" :p |
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Location: Orange County, California | Nah Jeff,
Remember: misery loves company :p :D :p :D |
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| Originally posted by alpep:
Grif and Waskel
I strongly suggest you look up the words "notice" and "pending" before you jump to any ill conclusions.
If stephen is not posting it is currently his choice. Having been dragged out in front of the class by teacher, given a public spanking and then had it confirmed by the Principal, I doubt any of us would be posting.
This all seemed outrageous and vindictive to me in the first place, but the deafening silence from Stephen's "friends" and the fact that it was suggested to me that there might be history here meant that I just let it go. But this jumping in on the defensive like someone was poking your eyeball just makes the original act look like I thought it was. |
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Location: SoCal | Life is just way too short to spend it feuding over minor stuff. As Beal once said (and I paraphrase) "Life, death, and guitars are the big things. Everything else is just minor stuff"
I got too many guitar licks that need to be learned (shut up Cliff) to spend my time worrying about feuding.
That's my opinion and it should be yours too.... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Cliff and many others might say that the only people who make something out of a fight are lawyers. That's probably true, but I don't like to see any friends being pissed at each other. Let's just get past this. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by alpep:
If stephen is not posting it is currently his choice. what part of this is not clear? |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by schroeder:
...but the deafening silence from Stephen's "friends" and the fact that it was suggested to me that there might be history here... Stephen has been very busy with business.
Some of us have been in contact with him.
Al knows my views on what was said in that thread.
I remember a simpler time...
a time before manifestos,
a time when most flare-ups around here usually ended with Bill reminding everyone involved that the only outcome of a pissing match is wet shoes.
I'll refer to that simpler time as "ED" (erstwhile dickhead).
The transition from ED to current day was a very painful process... and the growth pains sometimes still haunt us.
There was obvious pain and scarring to some of our members.
Even to this day, the scarring can cause pain when one of our members flexes... and as stupid animals sometimes do, we strike out at the closest thing.
We witnessed someone self-destruct and hurt most of the people around them. If your member was directly affected, you know of your experience firsthand. We each know of others' experiences second, third, and forth-hand.
Live and learn... patch things up and carry on.
I want to see Stephen posting again and I know Al will welcome him.
This is the OFC "AD"... |
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Location: SoCal | If your member was directly affected,
The last time my member was directly affected was when my member got kicked....... |
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Location: Orange County, California | ... I didn't really mean it when I said :mad: Stephen:mad: :D :p :D :p |
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| Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
If your member was directly affected,
The last time my member was directly affected was when my member got kicked....... Damn, and I thought it was just old age...
sorry Char. it's the OFC's fault.
must be from the old bomb casings and helicopter blades in the vintage ones.. :D
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Location: Whitecourt, Ab | You know if you "wrap that raskal" it won't get infected.
ED...
ED...
"the word is "AFFECTED"
best Rosanna Rosanna Danna voice: "Never Mind" |
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