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Location: Corvallis, OR | Hi
Without doing a time consuming search, I hope someone can answer the question "who sells most of the Ovations on eBay - business or private parties? "
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | For purely informational reasons; why do you want to know this? |
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Location: Orange County, California | I think the question should really be two: "Who are your favorite Ebay sellers"? Follwed up by "Are they a reputable shop, or private parties"?
Is that really what you want to know? |
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Location: SoCal | my observations:
U.S. Ovations - used, consumer
non U.S. (Applause, Celeb) - new, dealers |
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Location: North Texas | I see it like Tony does. Pawn shops peddle quite a few Ovations also, but I'm not sure if they would be considered dealers, like retailers. There is always an element of risk using ebay. On average most sellers are legitimate, but there are those occasional scheisters. |
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Location: Corvallis, OR | Gosh - you never know how people are going to interpret a question here.
At any rate, I asked the question because I cant believe that so many private parties would buy an Ovation, then become unsatisfied and then sell it.
On the other hand,it doesnt seem likely to me that there are that many businesses that rely on eBay sales for Ovations.
I was simply curious about the source of all the hundreds Ovations for sale on eBay each month.
(Three of my Ovations came from eBay, and one from Al P.) |
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Location: Orlando, FL | If we could just get superior kayaker and the trawler to sell their Ovations, there would be plenty of great stuff for everybody! |
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Location: SoCal | re: "I cant believe that so many private parties would buy an Ovation, then become unsatisfied and then sell it."
Don't know if "unsatisfied" is the reason for sale...lots of reasons, to include change in financial situation, moving to another model (not different manufacturer), was dad's in the closet, etc.
Also, eBay opens up sales to a large market...older quality O's are very affordable as a 1st or 2nd guitar. |
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Location: SoCal | Look at Martins and Taylors on ebay. Hundreds of each for sale..... |
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Location: closely held secret | I'm with Tony. I've found a lot of the time either the seller doesn't need what they have, because they don't play, or they just plain need the money, or they have gone to a higher-end model. Seems very rare that someone is selling a USA Ovation just because they aren't happy with it. |
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Location: GA USA | That's right. Check our SELL/TRADE mb. Many posts start with "I'm selling my (model) for (reason). I thought I'd offer it here before putting it on ebay." Notice that the reason is never "because I don't like it." |
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Location: SoCal | in fact, a number of OFC'ers are concerned about where their guitar goes...listing it on OFC to keep it within the "family." |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | What you want to know is why do so many people use ebay to sell their used guitars?
I think that's a trend in our society for all kinds of things. Really nothing unusual. In the past, I don't know about you, but I would go to my local music store or pawn shop (still do) and see what used instruments they have for sale. At these places you had to pay the middlemen their cut. Then you might look at the paper or some bulliten boards (the old physical kind). But there was never much of a selection. With the internet, the buyer and seller can get together directly, and there's more selection and better pricing. You see the same thing when it comes to stocks and bonds. You can trade all kinds of things in the comfort of your home, that 10 years ago would've been impossible. My perception is not that people are more "dissatisfied" over what they had 10 years ago. It's just that they finally have the tools to make a more efficient market.
What do you think? I'm sure most of us have bought and sold other things via the internet. You wouldn't say that the reason people are selling or buying shares of (Fill in the name of the last stock you bought or sold) is because they are dissatisfied. Same for guitars. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by 4fingers:
I cant believe that so many private parties would buy an Ovation, then become unsatisfied and then sell it. I've sold 52 guitars on ebay and I don't think there as been a single one that I was unsatisfied with. Usually it was because I found something different that I wanted and the only way to finance it was to sell something that I already had.
Wouldn't it be great if illegal drugs worked like that? Imagine that you could get high on crack and then just shit it out and resell it to someone else and buy some better stuff with the proceeds?
Hey, speaking of eBay here's a good one. I was talking to a guy about all the new lingo and abbreviations we have adopted in the age of eBay. Things like "reserve price", "maximum bid", "OHSC", "BIN", etc. I commented that it's been so long since I had sex that I should qualify as "NOS". Shut up Cliff. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I like what tony has said. I would also add that for me I've made a series of trials and upgrades through the flavors based on funding limits. The classic treasures we seek don't show up in stores very often.
Ebay has a gimungous audience. This also makes it a target for less scrupulous entities as well. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Dave,
More like "FRG"! |
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Location: south east Michigan | Another reason there are a lot of Ovations on ebay is because Ovation makes guitars that retain their playability for many, many years. All wood guitars, given any thing less than tender loving care eventually become unplayable and sit in an attic or closet. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I would agree with Tony on this one. |
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Location: SoCal | Dave, maybe that would be IHtFL ?? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Dave,
Maybe owning a guitar isn't as sexy as it used to be. Of course, it never worked for me back then either. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | MIB, How right you are!
Many years ago I was playing at an open mic event and a very attractive woman asked me to come back to her place later that evening. I asked, "What can I bring?" I was thinking champagne, roses, body lotion ... but she says "Oh, just ring your guitar. My boyfriend has never seen one with a plastic back before." |
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Location: North Texas | I think a lot of people buy instruments with high expectations of being able to play. It takes a lot of work, and time, to get past the early stages of playing. Some are unwilling to devote enough time, and then realize it's not happening. Ultimately, they fold and ebay beckons. That is one scenario anyway. It's amazing that some old instruments appear never to have been played beyond the unwrapping stage.
It would be hard to imagine someone would say they were selling their stuff because it was crummy, even if it is. Some people just have lots of money and can buy nice stuff. If they want to unload it, we benefit. If you know your products, and their values, you can get wonderful deals. If you are wanting to sell, ebay provides a buyer pool beyond belief, and unparalleled in recorded history. You can really get good deals on digital gadgets and gizmos on ebay. Multi tracks, processors, interfaces, and other recording stuff is selling for pennies on the dollar. Don't ya just love it. |
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Location: SoCal | It takes a lot of work, and time, to get past the early stages of playing. Some are unwilling to devote enough time, and then realize it's not happening. Hey Buck, just how much time does it take to learn to play? I'm at 35 years and keep hoping I'll get there, but I'm never quite certain it's happening. I'm only willing to give it another 5 years or so...... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Just like golf, it only takes one lifetime. And, if you're lucky, it's a short one...no, wait, if you're lucky it's a long...no...ah, never mind... |
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Location: North Texas | The rule is this: When you can play a Bm without lookin' you are past the early stages. If you've got 35 years in, you've gone too far to turn back. Golf is another story... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm with Moody. It took a ton of time to learn what little I did back in the 60s and early 70s. Then life kind of got in the way and I didn't play much for many years. All my family and inlaws got married and I didn't have any more requests. Same story with golf, except nobody ever asked me to play golf. Recent change of life with the kids gone and it seems like I have time for that stuff again.
Dave, at least she was good looking. I never had a good looking woman ask me back to her place. Maybe we just thought playing guitar was attractive to the opposite sex. |
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Location: South Jersey | It's the singers. They ALWAYS get the girl. Although I managed a few in my day as well, those days are long gone now! lol ah, the 80's were a great time to be young, stupid, and in a rock band! |
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who sells Ovations ?