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Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???

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Abendicum
Posted 2005-01-18 7:12 PM (#166066)
Subject: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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I am into a custom scale on a used 12 string, 12 fret, neck, from a Pacemaker circa 1975-1980... I spoke to John Bundy today at the mothership and he helped me a lot…

I forgot to ask him about removing the Polyester gloss finish on the neck… Not everywhere… just the places I am doing some work on… Is good old sandpaper the best way to go, or will some type of stripper help ???

Also when it comes to RE-finishing what will stick to the 25 year old Polyester, on this baby, and where do you buy it??? Stew Mac has zip for Polyester, finishes...

AB
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MWoody
Posted 2005-01-18 7:47 PM (#166067 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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Let me enter a standard Disclaimer here; Get more opinions.

Fine lines and pinholes can be filled with cyana-psycho-glue (super glue).

Slightly bigger - there will always be a mark, even if you find a poly coating. All can be leveled and buffed.

I picked up the Stewmac abrasive pads in 2400, 3600, 4000, 8000 and 1200 grit. After that use a car polish or one of the swirl removers mentioned in other posts.

Aircraft Stripper, sold in Auto parts stores takes the Poly down. It does not go without a fight though! Mask off any binding since it eats plastic along with the coating.

Abrasives will take it down - be patient, use control. The top face of the peghead is usually veneer thin. Go with the grain. Mahogany can splinter easily. Did I already mention, be patient?
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Beal
Posted 2005-01-19 7:18 AM (#166068 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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Stripping chemically can be difficult. I don't like messing with that many of those things. Use sandpaper.
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-19 7:36 AM (#166069 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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While we're on this topic, I've been pondering the possibility of re-doing the top on my Ultra 12-string. It's my beach/boat/knockaround guitar, so I was thinking of doing a bit of a funky, "nautical" paint job, possibly with some gold leaf . . .

What's involved with removing the rosette??
(I was considering doing the rosette pattern around the soundhole in goldleaf . . )

What grit sandpaper is recommended to remove the finish?? It's black now, and I don't need to take it down to bare wood for any kind of transparent finish - I just wanna have a nice, flat, clean "canvas" to work on . . .

Any advice??
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-01-19 7:59 AM (#166070 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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Hey Cliff, who am I to be giving YOU artistic advice ... but if it were me I would paint some palm trees on it.
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-19 8:04 AM (#166071 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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I'm thinkin' "Pirate"

". . . harrrgh! . . ."
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MWoody
Posted 2005-01-19 8:05 AM (#166072 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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Give these boards a gander.

Project Guitar

Luthiers

MIMF

Auto Cad Templates

The best way is the Factory way; pull the bridge, pop the neck, hit the big sanding disc and put it all back together.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-01-19 9:53 AM (#166073 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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You know Cliff - if you worked in Latex or Tempora it would be a replacable artwork!

Look here as well:

Project guitar again
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-19 10:37 AM (#166074 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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Yeah I know, Woodster . . but if I go with the goldleaf, it's gonna need a protective varnish over it once it's burnished . . . besides, it'll be subjected to a lot of outdoor abuse, so it'll need a degree of permanence/protection . . .

Thanks for the Links!

c.
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leftovertion
Posted 2005-01-19 12:49 PM (#166075 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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Just glue some starfish and seashells to it...
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-19 1:05 PM (#166076 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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don't laugh . . .
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MWoody
Posted 2005-01-19 6:01 PM (#166077 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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RE: "don't laugh"

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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-01-19 6:10 PM (#166078 - in reply to #166066)
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Abendicum
Posted 2005-01-19 6:28 PM (#166079 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???


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cwk2:

Thanks CW, I figured sandpaper was the way to go...

Now that I started an "ART SHOW", I still need to know, if it's possible to get, the same brand of polyester, that the factory uses ???

Ab
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MWoody
Posted 2005-01-19 7:25 PM (#166080 - in reply to #166066)
Subject: Re: Removing Polyester Gloss Finish ???



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Sorry, might of got caught up in the moments.

Hope the project goes well!
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