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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | Guitar World Acoustic Magazine did a nice piece on Acoustic Electrics in their Dec issue. The Gibson J160 E was the first popular Electric Acoustic, made even more popular by the Beatles, especially after Rubber Soul which featured just about all acoustic guitars, and capos for that matter. Ovation became the preimer performing Acoustic Electric in the 70's. Along came Takamine, and added the equalizer and they took a big share in the market. Kamen was smart to buy them out. It seems that the acoustic electric is more popular today than ever. Especially the young bands, who reallty stum rythm more than pick leads. With all the acoustic electrics out there, I wonder if Ovation can capture the market like it did before?
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Caymen never bought out Tak. Tak is it's own company and always has been and Kaman is a small minority shareholder and the exclusive distributor for the US and Europe.
To answer your last question I'd say no. |
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Location: USA | I think given the current status of music, people are really longing to get back to the songs and the true art it is and has gotten so incredibly far away from.
I was accepted for possible endorsemsment by Ovation. I am quite honored. ITs all under review as they say...
And yes my weapon of choice is the Adamas 1597 acoustic electric.
I started to get into a habbit a few years ago where I put down the electric plugged in the acoustic and still used distortion. Needless to say I was one of the few in my area doing that. I would constantly get" you cant do that with an acoustic" well, I did. Soon, I kicked off the distortion and went purely acoustic. I always get"what kind of effects do you use?" ZERO. Its all results from practice, practice, and yes more practice. I do believe the acoustic is about to break again along with the REAL..back in music and I'm hoping what I do can maybe help bring Ovation back to the front as well as putting out some decent tunes;along with all the Ovation enthusiasts here as well as those who truley love and believe in these instruments.
I am styll and I paid for this message...had to get that in there, sorry :) |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | I have predicted this opportunity over and over as I see more and more entertainers doing "acoustic" sets where they have to plug in their acoustics. When you have to plug in an acoustic, Ovation is the very best acoustic to plug in.
It was first in that category and retains the lead it has built up over 30 years.
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Location: NJ | the martin D 18 E with two dearmond pickups mounted to the top was made in the late 50's early 60's but that was not made popular until kurt cobain played one on unplugged.
Not sure when the gibson was made but I suspect it was later.
tons of arch tops were build with pickups on them |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | archtops with pickups don't count.
I think the Gibson was in the 50's. There was a CF100 that had a pickup under the top at the end of the fingerboard and that was in the late 50's, 56 or 57 I've seen. I think the Martin DeArmond was an answer to this guitar(or maybe it's the other way around?) |
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Location: Massachusetts | There are too many all wood snobs out there. Worse than that there are too many people willing to spend $500 on a made in China laminated guitar because it is the in thing vs spending the extra dough and gett ing a USA made Ovation.
Plus, amplification technology seems to be moving at a rapid pace with everyone trying to capture that pure natural acoustic sound amplified.
Ovations have their own tone plugged in but at some point they will have to move to a technology that simulates a more natural acoustic tone amplified to compete with Martins, Gibsons and Taylors and all the aftermarket stuff from Fishman, Baggs and K+K.
I do think Ovation is moving in a great direction with the LX's..except dumping the v neck profile :-( and their advertising in the stores is outstanding really drawing attention to their product.
Too bad GC isn't pusing the made in USA Ovations, they just flood every square inch of their sales floor with cheap made in China guitars, you can't move in there. Just awfull. |
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Location: SoCal | IMHO, the whole plugged in acoustic sound should start (and I think it was a gas station owner who made this type of observation a while back), with a good acoustic sound. Ovation is finally moving back to a great unplugged sound. Plugged in, they still have a great sound, but I would expect that over the next year or so, it's going to get even better. When you look at how far the guitars have come over the last year, can new developments in the electronics be far behind? |
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Location: Omaha | "Kamen"
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Very funny, Bill; I just caught that!"
("Hellooo...")
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Location: Converse, Texas | Posted by corvairfan:
Too bad GC isn't pusing the made in USA Ovations, they just flood every square inch of their sales floor with cheap made in China guitars, you can't move in there.
The problem is that many people pick up a Celibacy and think THAT'S Ovation. They don't even try a Legend LX or an ELite! Like corvair said... maybe if the marketing department or sales force would push more Balladeers and Legends and less of the Korean stuff, sales and profit margins would be better. |
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Location: NJ | click. |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | The all wood guitars are not the standard, by any means. The Taylors are way over priced and the expression sound system has serious problems with noise. The acoustic Gibsons have action and necks that are unplayable. You'd think they could set them up better when they leave the factory. Ovations are far the best, but heh, I'm preaching to the choir. I do agree that Ovation has shot themselves in the foot by calling its import line the same name. The average customer will pick up an import, and stop before he tries out an LX further back on the display rack.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Rev Mikey Mac, Your pickups will soon be living in a Koa holleredout tele body with a flame koa top and a koa neck with pau ferro f/b. I got the ElDorado tailpiece, control plate(cowboy engraved and all that spoo). Should be up and running in a week or two.
I figured this guy obviously had been mispronouncing the name. Oh well, you get used to it after 40 years. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Alpep
You have reminded me of some situations when my wife and I were in business with our computer training school. Just when a student was ready to sign up somebody would say:
"the martin D 18 E with two dearmond pickups mounted to the top was made in the late 50's early 60's but that was not made popular until kurt cobain played one on unplugged.
Not sure when the gibson was made but I suspect it was later.
tons of arch tops were build with pickups on them "
We would then slap them around the head and show them the door, you don't need to praise your competition when you're making a sale.
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