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alpep
Posted 2004-09-17 2:23 PM (#178571)
Subject: Just some thoughts


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On another thread it was mentioned that a member has left. That happens from time to time. We can never please everyone, but I find it unfortunate that some choose not to visit the site because of language or sexual inuendo etc.

Sure I have crossed the line myself. Others have went far over it but you just don't know what will trigger what synapse in which person. We have female members on this board and those that are under 18. For the most part, there is just a lot of good natured fun and nothing far out of line.

On a number of occassions I have asked members to tone down language. I refuse to censor anyone, remember only one person was ever given a vacation from this message board. Please remember that if you type something and you would not want your son or daughter reading, then edit it. I think that is a simple rule to follow. Respect all that visit this board.

This brings me to the next topic. Miles told me that he wants to update the message board and the chat software. He was going to do this when the site was down a while back but I don't know what since has happened. Anyway, when this happens we will have a few more catagories on the message board so, if you are interested in the off topic posts of someone you can visit a special area to do that and if you want playing techniques or guitar information or gear information there will be a place for it. This way you won't have to wade through items that are not of interest to you. This will organize things and hopefully make the message board more functional.

I appreciate all who participate. I know we cannot be everything to everybody, but as we grow, hopefully we can change with out community. The more we post, and become familiar, the more the message board looks like an "old boys club" than the informative place that it always has been. Thus the need IMHO for an off topic area.

thanks for reading.
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-17 2:35 PM (#178572 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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I've noticed the off-topic area on the Hamer Board, and I think it's a very good idea . . .
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cruster
Posted 2004-09-17 2:36 PM (#178573 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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I've occasionally wondered why we didn't have one here. I can't get into the outer circle on HFC, though...guess my reputation preceded me. ;)
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xnoel
Posted 2004-09-17 2:38 PM (#178574 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Well said, Al.

I like the idea of an off topic area, etc.

This board is very valuable to all of us, especially those like myself that don't have a deep background in Ovation instruments.

Keep it going.

noel
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-09-17 2:55 PM (#178575 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Sounds like a good thing!
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-09-17 3:13 PM (#178576 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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St. Al...couldn't agree with you more! Once again, thanks to you and Miles for the maintenance and watchcare of the Board....

...also it sounds like you are on the mend :D :D :D
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seesquare
Posted 2004-09-17 3:15 PM (#178577 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Bravo, Al & Miles! Great idea. It doesn't appear we use the chatroom much, what with the different time zones, and such. Another example of your superior stewardship, Gentlemen!
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-09-17 3:18 PM (#178578 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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I think it's a great idea Al. I'm all for it.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-17 5:12 PM (#178579 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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Stream of consciousness thinking has been my gift and curse.

I could stay within the lines on an Ovation question as long as there was an immediate place to go "off" or "rant" or whatever.

Reminds me of the time...
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Beal
Posted 2004-09-17 5:53 PM (#178580 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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Nicely said aLeX
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willard
Posted 2004-09-17 6:00 PM (#178581 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Better hurry and get a politics area b4 the election. I think we all were pretty good while Cliff and Co. were in N.Y. but I'm not sure how much longer we can hold out.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-09-17 6:20 PM (#178582 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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I think there is place for an off topic section. Although I do like this board as a place to get away from the issues of the world.
I might not visit an off topic site very often, not because I don't like the people here, but because I do.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-09-17 7:02 PM (#178583 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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I think an "off-topic" area is a good idea as well.

Roger
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Nils
Posted 2004-09-17 8:54 PM (#178584 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Great idea. I would also suggest a 'Hazardous Material' sign on the door, along with a warning, so people with overly sensitive sensibilities will know to stay the hell out of there.

/\/\/
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-09-18 10:33 AM (#178585 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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Alex, your idea is good and your commitment to the board is without question. As one who joined early but didn't participate for a long time, I have noticed that there is a lot of good natured teasing and joking that goes with the territory of being a 'club'. It gets off color at times, not to mention off topic, but usually doesn't get what I would consider terribly offensive.

An off topic area would allow more of that to occur, as perhaps would a mention in the 'welcome' section that on a bulletin board like this some of the participants are 'characters' (You know who you are!!)

It's just another way of my saying that bulletin boards are not perfect.... though we come close, eh?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-09-18 10:36 AM (#178586 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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The only "characters" that come to mind are Temp, Clifford, and Witko. Can't think of any others.
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-18 1:16 PM (#178587 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Just for personal edification, what exactly should we be warning potential participants about?
(pick a number, if it makes it easier)





And yes, I do in fact consider myself one "who knows WHO he is". In fact, I consider that to be an attribute to my . . . . "character". ;)
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Nils
Posted 2004-09-18 1:41 PM (#178588 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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This board wouldn't be nearly as much fun without you Cliff. I like you just the way you are.

Speaking of fun, has anybody figured out what Russ is up to these days?

Hmm, I wonder what it will take to reach "Character" status around here....

/\/\/
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-18 1:47 PM (#178589 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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I've been wondering/worrying about Russ myself.

Does anyone have any extent of his personal info that they may be able to reach out to him?? Not to pry, but just to make sure he's okay . . .

I really miss him.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-09-18 3:12 PM (#178590 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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Cliff,

Nice contribution to the discussion. I like it! I anticipated someone stepping up and hitting that pitch.

Applying to me would be #3 or #7, although my wife thinks #6.

We probably need to warn people about #13, and explain it is due to #15.

Seriously, I don't know how to answer that question.... It is hard to improve on treating others with the respect one would like in return,
but some people are going to take offense at some posts.

Most of us that post here regularly have a feel about where each other is coming from and allow for that. It is almost always good-natured, even when coarse. Oh, well.... Take it in context and skip what you don't like. Omit the context and some of it gets quite strange (Bailey's recent ET thread comes to mind, though in context it was hilarious.)

Please forgive the ramble.... the 'huskers barely escaped Pitt and the drama of a new coaching staff and system following the horror of last year's coaching change far overshadows this matter at the moment.

Sorry, Al, if I haven't helped your cause.
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Beal
Posted 2004-09-18 3:16 PM (#178591 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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How about if we go over the the Acoustics Tutt-Butt board and post all the *&^&^$ political *&^^%$%$ over there? They sound like a bunch of ^%$^%% anyway.
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leftovertion
Posted 2004-09-18 3:23 PM (#178592 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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Paul B.

Mary Kay has "read" you well; #6 definitely applies; but I realized that some 20+ years ago when we first met on 5th Avenue in Kearney, NE!!

;)

Keep on strummin', bro'!
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Nils
Posted 2004-09-18 3:26 PM (#178593 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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I hope Russ didn't go to Mazatlan & fall into a vat of Pacifico. I sure miss having him around, he was always fun.

/\/\/
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-18 3:30 PM (#178594 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts


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". . . I hope Russ didn't go to Mazatlan & fall into a vat of Pacifico . . ."

There're WORSE ways to go . . . .
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-09-18 6:48 PM (#178595 - in reply to #178571)
Subject: Re: Just some thoughts



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Personally, if given several options - a sanitized discussion and one with the flavor of our current board, I will ignore the sanitized.

IMHO, it will be pretty lonely on the sanitized option. As to the practicality of splitting the board, not sure how the software would be able to discriminate based on age.

Off topic? One of the amazing aspect of this board is to watch a thread wander off topic, sometimes returning to the original purpose but always entertaining.

No place for flaming and vulgarity. However, I don't see any reason to invite "Miss Manners" to be our moderator. This very diverse group has always assisted women, youngsters, and newbies of any gender and age. In fact, I have seen the members of this board go out of their way to assist some of the most basic, but important, questions. Try to find that on boards of other guitar brands. I don't remember any posts that were intended to abuse, intimidate, or ridicule anyone.

If anyone is tempted to step over the already established "line", I would suggest continuing the thread off line by email.
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