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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-09-12 8:04 PM (#179090 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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This sucker has 11 screw holes.
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cruster
Posted 2004-09-12 8:36 PM (#179091 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
This sucker has 11 screw holes.


So does the pickguard on my Peavey Predator. Huh, then again, it was made in the USA.

Maybe it's like the whole metric thing...in the US, all pickguards get eleven holes, but the rest of the world is using eight.

HAHA. Ok, maybe not that funny. But, you have to admit, discussing the number of screw holes in Fender Strat pickguards is kind of funny....considering the forum.

:D

I love this place...
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an4340
Posted 2004-09-12 9:01 PM (#179092 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands
If your interested in new guts, check out this site, they are in CA, so being more local may be easier to deal with. I know nothing about stew mac, except for glues and finishing supplies they're tops.
http://www.torresengineering.com/bluesdelwirn.html
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-09-12 9:09 PM (#179093 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Those pre-wired's from StewMac ought to be avoided like a salty beaver in a tin o'mussels. STAY AWAY.
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-09-12 9:11 PM (#179094 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat



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Strats from the '50's had 8 screw guards (up until about '59) and then switched to 11 screw guards. Therefore, 50's re-issue strats, wherever they are from, have 8 screw guards while the '62 re-issue and most other strats and their variant’s have 11 screws.

As to the topic of Japanese built strats, the early-mid eighties versions are second to none in overall quality and are definitely far ahead of the early eighties standard strats, which were pretty sorry excuses for guitars. That being said however, the early eighties re-issue USA guitars were excellent and as good as the eastern models.

I recently bought an early '62 re-issue Japan strat built in '85 and it is a fine guitar. I have had two original '63 strats and this thing is so close to them in sound and feel it is scary. It has a slightly smaller neck with less fretboard radius and doesn't have nitro finish like the old ones but other than that, seems like the real deal. I also have a candy-apple red Fender Precission (MIJ) from the same period and it too, is as good as anything I've seen from the US factory.

Wayne
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-09-12 9:19 PM (#179095 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat



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To Cruster: The more recent Fenders from Japan say "Crafted in Japan". I believe it has to do with when the guitar was made, not the quality level.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-09-12 10:15 PM (#179096 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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All the ins and outs of Strat pickguards can be found over at the Warmoth site
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Terr0r
Posted 2004-09-13 4:44 AM (#179097 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Just to add my penny's worth as the owner of a Jap Strat...

It is very comparable to standard USA strats made at the time (indeed many say better), but no comparison to the higher end USA models. I was told that to highlight the difference some of the parts e.g. tuners etc. were not as good quality as the USA equivalent on similar models. The build quality on the Jap Strats was in fact better than the USA equivalent at the time so something had to give!

I have to say I love my strat (not as much as my O ;) ) but am thinking of changing the pickups for more upmarket USA strat ones.

Any advice would be welcome!

...mind you the new 50th aniversay strat is quite nice looking...but that's not for this board!

Cheers

Terry

Oh...and I also think that the Jap strat is better quality than the Mexican...I have to disagree with Al on this point...sorry Al.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-09-13 7:20 AM (#179098 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Your both right... It all depends on when it was made.

If you've got a light body (on the Strat that is) the TexasSpecials do it for me. For an ash body, which on 99 percent of the guitars is harder and denser than the alder (or poplar or basswood etc), then the Fat50's seem less biting, although a bit less output than the TxSp's. Neither of those are traditional 50's Buddy Holly Strat sounds though... for that you need something like the pickups off the 57 reissue (which are pretty close to "that" sound). Dunno what they call that set.

Try http://www.angela.com Steve over that has everything you'll ever need for a Strat (or Tele)
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alpep
Posted 2004-09-13 9:33 AM (#179099 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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steve at angela is "different"
caveat emptor
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grrroovedude
Posted 2004-09-13 10:04 AM (#179100 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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@terror: try Kinman pickups.

http://www.kinman.com/

They are not american made, but australian. They are very, VERY good, if not the best.


Martin
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-13 10:44 AM (#179101 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat



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How about the build your owns via the Carvin catalog. It's been my favorite bathroom reader this week!

OK, TMI :rolleyes:
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cruster
Posted 2004-09-13 4:01 PM (#179102 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Originally posted by MWoody:
OK, TMI :rolleyes:


I'll say, we really didn't need to know that you like Carvin's, man.

:D
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-13 4:15 PM (#179103 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat



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Cruster, I only look at the pictures!

If your house was full of women you'd know there are few sanctoms left for a guy.

Actually Carvin does put out a nice catalog. The mix and match factor is fascinating to me. They opt for a lot of "build-it-yourself" units. I've never heard of Warmoth and I'm not chasing any Fenders. Just trying to enjoy.

If I get a solidbody It'll be a Breadweiner or a Hamer more than likely.
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cliff
Posted 2004-09-13 4:18 PM (#179104 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Warmouth has some nice stuff!!
I especially like some of their basses . .
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alpep
Posted 2004-09-13 6:29 PM (#179105 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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try one of these the dewey decibel flipout guitar. I just got these in and yes I am an authorized dealer.

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cruster
Posted 2004-09-13 7:36 PM (#179106 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Woody-

Oh, one doesn't need a house filled with wimmin to know the need for a sanctum sanctorum. My workshop floor has nice little red spraypaint outlines of who knows what, my tools are never where they belong (I used to have three full sets of Crapsman screwdrivers...now I have three screwdrivers, two flathead and a teensy phillips), the downstairs bathroom used to be mine, but now I just call it the 'scary bathroom' and it belongs to the 14 and 11 year old. My office suddenly has grown a couch and a TV, complete with cable feed and a game console. Need I go on? I didn't think so.

Oh, and I had the Carvin catalog ensconced on the back of the throne in 'our' bathroom, but it disappeared after a mere three days in residence. Nobody knows where it went. :rolleyes:

If you like the Carvin stuff, have you checked out U. S. Masters? They're built in Wisconsin, you can pick all sorts of fun options and they play quite well. My instructor has one, but he usually plays a beat to heck old Jap Squier Strat (see, I can stay on topic!). You can check them out here: U. S. Masters Guitar Works

Al-

I generally hate to ask price when I'm only kicking tires, so I won't. ;) But that backwards Strat is a riot. Do they make them in Tele style, too? LP? Have a link to the mfr's web site?
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alpep
Posted 2004-09-13 9:17 PM (#179107 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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www.deweydecibel.com

e me for the price since I cannot violate MAP
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Bailey
Posted 2004-09-14 1:55 AM (#179108 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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I don't know what is wrong with Carvins. My daughter gave me Carvin 2 channel X-60 that was built in the 70's with 12AX7 and 6AX6's and a Celestion speaker that sounds really good with my electrics. I haven't seen a solid state that sounds as good.

Bailey
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Terr0r
Posted 2004-09-14 2:10 AM (#179109 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Originally posted by grrroovedude:
@terror: try Kinman pickups.

http://www.kinman.com/

They are not american made, but australian. They are very, VERY good, if not the best.


Martin
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Terr0r
Posted 2004-09-14 2:11 AM (#179110 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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Originally posted by grrroovedude:
@terror: try Kinman pickups.

http://www.kinman.com/

They are not american made, but australian. They are very, VERY good, if not the best.


Martin


Thanks for the info...he WEB site gives you a hell of a lot of information.

Cheers

Terry
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Alaskan Fly Guy
Posted 2004-09-14 9:31 AM (#179111 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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I have both a "crafted in Japan" 1954 reissue strat and a US made 2004 American Deluxe Strat and they are both at least excelent guitars. Just different. I wouldn't get rid of either of them. The craftmanship of the CIJ reissue is fantastic as is the American Deluxe. I am also a "regular" on the Fender Disscussion Page and find that most of the strat players seem to like the CIJ strats over the MIM strats. My 2 cents...
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slowhand61
Posted 2004-09-14 11:08 AM (#179112 - in reply to #179065)
Subject: Re: Strat


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I have a Fender Stratocaster Standard made in Mexico and will try to be more generous with my wording....
Somebody stated "you got what you pay for" ... I would add you got a little bit more ..... since the for $ 350 average you get a decent Strat made by Fender and not a knock-off.

Of course the quality of the materials and craftmanship is not at the same level of the USA's models, but for somebody like me that is mainly an acoustic guitarist and take the Strat out of the case 4-5 times a yr. just to feel like Eric Clapton ... 350 USD are more than enough for this toy ....

Overal, IMO, is a decent entry-level product
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