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willard
Posted 2003-03-06 4:45 AM (#211425)
Subject: Shim material


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Anyone know what I can use for shim material? It seems one shim is a tad to much and no shim causes the strings to buz a bit. I thought I might try makeing one in-between out of wood or something. Any thoughts from the experts?
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Mike S
Posted 2003-03-06 5:00 AM (#211426 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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Location: South Africa
I'm not much of an expert at these things, but personally I never mess around with the bits and pieces which are made by the manufacturers. They normally have the equipment and expertise to know what they are doing.If your strings are buzzing, wouldn't a simple truss rod adjustment work just as well?
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cliff
Posted 2003-03-06 7:07 AM (#211427 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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Willard;
Try doing a "search" on the subject as I seem to remember a long and varied thread a while back concerning making saddles/shims of antler, bone, plastic, metal, and various other organic/inorganic materials.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-03-06 10:40 AM (#211428 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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Believe it or not, strips cut from aluminum beverage cans work well. Figure one strip from each can of Olde English 800 times four or five; it will start sounding A LOT BETTER......
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-03-06 6:40 PM (#211429 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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Most hobby shops carry sheet material of brass, aluminum, stainless steel or plastic in various thicknesses (.005 - .125). I've used all but the aluminum. Personally I prefer plastic for acoustic guitars and brass for electric.

P.S. I've heard of one guitar manufacturer that uses jade(???). Can't remember the name.
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Beal
Posted 2003-03-06 7:00 PM (#211430 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material



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Keep in mind what you do at the saddle will be 50% at the 12th fret. Any comments on what kind of beer cans give the best tone?
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kb5zcr
Posted 2003-03-06 7:02 PM (#211431 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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I have used an old credit card to make a shim. I can't tell the difference in sound. Tim
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alpep
Posted 2003-03-06 9:09 PM (#211432 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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I have used the tin foil in cigarette packs and gum wrappers as fuses but never as shims. guess I am no help here.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-03-07 2:36 PM (#211433 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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Dubyatoo, use Carta Blanca cans. Be aware the shims will stop working between 2:00 & 5:00 PM daily, however. Just kidding. Please, no ethnic or cultural offense intended. I've heard Carling cans will make you tone-deaf, though. Something about crushing them on your head......
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-03-07 8:09 PM (#211434 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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Originally posted by cwk2:
Keep in mind what you do at the saddle will be 50% at the 12th fret. Any comments on what kind of beer cans give the best tone?


An EMPTY beer can!
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Bailey
Posted 2003-03-08 1:06 AM (#211435 - in reply to #211425)
Subject: Re: Shim material


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On that same subject, I have never been able to get the sound out of an empty beer can that compares to my mandolin. To me they sound too much like a banjo. After a case or two, I guess it really doesn't matter, just sing or blow into the top of variously levels of beer in the cans and a type of music will emerge. I think we should get back to guitars as beer can music doesn't do well in church.
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