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Location: Utah | For grins today I compared the OpPro and VIP tuners with a Boss TU15 tuner. Both are dead nuts on, within 3 cents or less, of the TU15. There is more natural wobble in the frequency of the string than error in the OpPro or VIP. In fact, the limiting factor seems to be the smallest increment in string pitch achievable.
I would guess that the factory trims the oscillator frequency in the preamps using automatic test equipment and a computer controlled laser. At least that is how it was done 25 years ago, so they should be able to do it even better now.
Perhaps part of the problem for some people is the intonation of the guitar, not the tuning of the open string. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by FlySig:
Perhaps part of the problem for some people is the intonation of the guitar, not the tuning of the open string. That's what I was getting at with the Haiku I posted earlier. Tuning a guitar with a tuner, then strumming a chord to find it's out of tune, is many time indicative of an intonation issue, or an actual technique issue.
I was having a similar problem several years ago and it turned out that I had made a bade habit of pressing the strings too hard when doing barre chords on the lower frets. Tune the guitar and then play an F# and it would sound horrible. When it was pointed out, I relaxed and it went right back into tune. Was a hard habit to break. |
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Location: CA | The best thing about the onboard tuner is that I'm the only one in my circle of friends that has one. So now THEY all have to tune to ME. Is it accurate? Well as Jerry Reed said, it sure sounds like there's a lot more of us than there are sometimes. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by FlySig:
Perhaps part of the problem for some people is the intonation of the guitar, not the tuning of the open string. This is not the problem my OP Pro has.
The tuner is reporting that the OPEN string is in tune, but it is not. From the moment the 'up' chevron changes to a diamond, to the time the diamond becomes a 'down' chevron, there is an audible difference in pitch. The tuner has too much 'slop'
I can appreciate that some may think its the intonation if you press too hard, but this inaccuracy is with open strings. |
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Location: Utah | I don't think either of my O's have that "slop" in the tuner. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | On my Optima, once the light went green any movement of the machine head would send it back into the red. No slop there. |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | Aren't all electronic tuners only a guide? Tuning any guitar is a compromise. With 6 strings and 22 frets there are 264 notes to get right. Tuning the open strings gets 6 of them 'right' (whatever right is). And yes Richard, I am offended by your needle-bouncing simile above. When drunk, many Irishmen just sort of go to sleep and move around very little. |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | Originally posted by sycamore:
Aren't all electronic tuners only a guide? Tuning any guitar is a compromise. With 6 strings and 22 frets there are 264 notes to get right. Tuning the open strings gets 6 of them 'right' (whatever right is). And yes Richard, I am offended by your needle-bouncing simile above. When drunk, many Irishmen just sort of go to sleep and move around very little. They also lose the ability to do arithemetic! 132 notes on a 6-string, 264 on a 12! |
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OP Pro tuner. Do you think it's accurate?
