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aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help

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guitarwannabee
Posted 2010-02-06 7:54 PM (#380288)
Subject: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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just bought a pacemaker acoustic and if i want to make it a.e. what pickup would be the easiest to clip on or hook up that would not need me doing anything that would make me drill holes or invade the structure of the guitar.
i do not need anything that is extravagant i just want some volume on it that wont feedback when you get near the amp.GWB
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Trader Jim
Posted 2010-02-06 8:04 PM (#380289 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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There's plenty of sound hole pickups that would work fine with no modification. Just run the cord out through the sound hole. It won't look the best, but it'll work. Or you could get one of those "vintage" endpin jacks. 1/8" plug with the same size hole as a standard strap pin.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2010-02-06 8:12 PM (#380290 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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any brand that you may personally chose one over the other? my fear is what brand pickup will start feed backing the minute you point it in the direction of the amp. GWB
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Trader Jim
Posted 2010-02-06 8:52 PM (#380291 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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I know Ronnie, (Gulfcoast) has had a lot of experience with these, but I think his computer just took a dump. If I talk to him tomorrow, I'll ask.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2010-02-06 8:58 PM (#380292 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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Another thought, I had an 1115 that I converted by installing an OP24+C with a thinline undersadle pickup from the factory. I know it involves cutting the side of the body, but at least it looks factory when you're done, and it sounded great. Plus...it had a TUNER!

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Capo Guy
Posted 2010-02-06 9:05 PM (#380293 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help



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guitarwannabee
Posted 2010-02-06 9:08 PM (#380294 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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i am so scared of doing surgery on a guitar that old.the lacquer finish is not a friendly surface and is very brittle and likes to crack when you look at it the wrong way. cutting into it scares the poop out of me.GWB
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-02-06 9:29 PM (#380295 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help
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Just buy a fishman undersaddle
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numbfingers
Posted 2010-02-06 9:36 PM (#380296 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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GWB-

I have a bunch of soundhole pickups. Some in a box in the garage, a couple I think are still at the consignment shop. Name brands too. Do you want one that it easy to take in and out, or do you want to leave it in all the time? If this is a 12-string, do you want a bright single coil or a quieter humbucker?

Let me know. I'll send you one free, if you don't like it you can pass it on to someone else.

-Steve W.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2010-02-06 9:39 PM (#380297 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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gallerinski what model do you suggest just for volume and not having feedback issues without getting carried away other extras that i will never use?.. /GWB
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bvince
Posted 2010-02-06 9:43 PM (#380298 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help



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I've used the fishmans on my classicals in the past and found the installation pretty easy. You probably already have a nice little starter hole if you have a strap button on the bottom end. The only other alteration is drilling a small hole in the bridge, under the bass side of the saddle. You may then want to sand the bottom side of your saddle down to compensate for the rise in action.

No matter which one you use, if you're installing these type pickups, you'll have to deal with feedback issues. The advantage of the undersaddle-type is you can use a guitar hole plug when going electric, which should take care of most of those problems.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2010-02-06 9:48 PM (#380299 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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numbfingers , holy poop now i have choices ,it is a 12 string that i have not recieved yet
( next week i hope ) but i like a very tingey treble sound electric .i would probably like to have the pick up out of the sound hole 98% of the time.i would only play electric only 2 % of the time.GWB
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-02-07 9:45 AM (#380300 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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Lyle Lovett uses Sunrise Soundhole pickups for his live performences. And, judging by they way his Collings sounded on Elvis Costello's show I don't think you can do better. That was the best sounding acoustic I have heard on that show. They sell them at Elderly albiet for a price :) .
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-02-07 11:34 AM (#380301 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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LR Baggs M1: great pu and easy to install...see my post in the for sale section...
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numbfingers
Posted 2010-02-07 1:20 PM (#380302 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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GWB-

If you don't go for one of the other suggestions, I found a Dean Markley ZH-7 in the garage. Like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190365740040 A bright humbucker but it is easy to put in and out. Free if you want to try it.

I'm going to the guitar shop this week to pick something up, I think he probably still has a Lace Acoustic Bronze single-coil and one or two others that I left there.

If I were buying a magnetic soundhole pickup for a 12 string, I'd want adjustable pole pieces. Nice to be able to adjust for each pair of strings. I'm not sure that the average pickup with no polepieces is optimized for 12 string. And I'd want to be sure that the polepiece spacing matched up with the string spacing. Some pickups might be a little too narrow.

-Steve W.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-02-07 2:02 PM (#380303 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help



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Resonant Woody
Posted 2010-02-07 3:14 PM (#380304 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help


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For an older guitar with a delicate finish that I only plan on playing 2% of the time with amplification, I might be tempted to just try one of my existing mic's and optimize the placement.
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bvince
Posted 2010-02-07 3:35 PM (#380305 - in reply to #380288)
Subject: Re: aftermarket pick-up for an acoustic without drilling holes ? help



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It IS hard to beat a good microphone, just difficult to stay in front of it (:
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