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BruDeV
Posted 2007-06-20 11:45 PM (#92553)
Subject: For John McLaughlin fans


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http://www.abstractlogix.com/xcart/product.php?productid=23037
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schroeder
Posted 2007-06-21 4:02 AM (#92554 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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The greatest drummer who ever lived.
One of the 2 or 3 greatest guitarists who ever lived.
If not the greatest then certainly the most influential electric bassist who ever lived.

Who buys this stuff?

:D :D :D :D
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schroeder
Posted 2007-06-21 4:11 AM (#92555 - in reply to #92553)
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I only just noticed you guys get this 10 days before we do. *&^&%$* Yanks!
But I do have it on pre-order...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-06-21 7:57 AM (#92556 - in reply to #92553)
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wipe your mouth.
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alpep
Posted 2007-06-21 9:01 AM (#92557 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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OMG
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-06-21 9:33 AM (#92558 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans



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Tony Williams and Allan Holdsworth teamed up for a while, advancing both of their careers by exposing them to a larger audience. This concert comes from the waning of such a heady era for 'fusion'. So many great talents, so much cross pollination, so little time before some of them died. Jaco's best playing was beyond brilliant.

I saw Mahavishnu Orchestra on their first American tour, and the band was amazing. I saw McLaughlin on tour a year or two later with his protege Devadip (aka Carlos Santana) doing an acoustic duo thing in tribute to their guru, Sri Chinmoy. It sucked, though there were some great guitar licks.

Chemistry... I'll probably have to buy this CD!
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Zen
Posted 2007-06-21 11:10 AM (#92559 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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I just pre ordered it thru Amazon. This is gonna be smokin!
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-21 1:51 PM (#92560 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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Originally posted by schroeder:

Who buys this stuff?
I will be! :) Now if only someone would discover some long forgotten Sun Ra sessions. ;)
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BruDeV
Posted 2007-06-21 2:42 PM (#92561 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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Did you notice this:

http://www.abstractlogix.com/features_view.php?idno=22
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Designzilla
Posted 2007-06-22 10:58 AM (#92562 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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Nice - 3 amazing talents together. Looking forward to this one!
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dobro
Posted 2007-06-22 3:34 PM (#92563 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans



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Question: I had read that Jaco "misbehaved" during this gig, just goofing off doing his Hendrix-feedback schtick. A JM biography I have (Paul Stump) alleges that Tony W. had to be forcibly restrained from kicking his ass afterwards and that Tony and John were dead against the live gig being released. Maybe the studio material makes up for it? Or maybe the whole story is just a jazz legend?
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-22 11:20 PM (#92564 - in reply to #92553)
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There's one way to find out for sure. ;)
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Designzilla
Posted 2007-06-23 10:59 AM (#92565 - in reply to #92553)
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Interesting story dobro. Makes me want to check it out more.

Maybe John decided it didn't sound so bad after all these years, it just wasn't what they expected at the time.

Jaco was an amazing bassist, but had some very troubled times at the end of his life.
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dobro
Posted 2007-06-23 12:59 PM (#92566 - in reply to #92553)
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THE BAY OF GIGS, McLaughlin called it:

"I have never been more ashamed in my life to onstage with somebody," bellowed McLaughlin to Pastorius afterwards. "That was the worst shit," he continued to the dismay of onlookers, "that I have ever heard in my life. I don't wanna see your face for at least a week." Williams who had kept his counsel, later erupted when Columbia tried to reconvene the act in a New York studio. Pastorius' attitute provoked the normally pragmatic and mellow drummer practically to fisticuffs."

For the full story go to>>
http://www.guitarsoffire.com/blog/
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dobro
Posted 2007-06-25 9:00 AM (#92567 - in reply to #92553)
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BUT 30 years later....

"Fast forward nearly three decades, as McLaughlin reconsidered the live concert tapes from Havana and had a change of heart. Working closely with sound engineer Marcus Wippersberg at Mediastarz Studio, Monaco, and mastering engineer Christoph Stickel at MSM Studios in Munich, McLaughlin was able to overcome the deficiencies of the Record Plant Mobile Recording facilities of 28 years ago. “Mixing this recording has been a real labor of love for me,” the guitarist says of TRIO OF DOOM, one of the most astounding aural documents of its time, and the only evidence of a supergroup who “more than lived up to their audacious band name,” as Milkowski concludes."


[abstract logix promo copy cited at]>>
http://www.guitarsoffire.com/blog/
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schroeder
Posted 2007-06-29 9:17 AM (#92568 - in reply to #92553)
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It's got some absolutely unbelievable playing on it. Fantastic. There was never a drummer like Tony Williams before or since. Unique voice.
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muzza
Posted 2007-06-29 10:14 PM (#92569 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans



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Originally posted by schroeder:
One of the 2 or 3 greatest guitarists who ever lived.
Would that include Jordan Ri...

Oops...Sorry.
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-30 7:45 PM (#92570 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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Originally posted by schroeder:
It's got some absolutely unbelievable playing on it. Fantastic. There was never a drummer like Tony Williams before or since. Unique voice.
I listened to it as I fell asleep last night. An awesome album. What was your favorite track, Schroeder? I think "Continuum (Live)" is just about the best thing happening on that album. But, I'll have to listen to it again (and again and again) to make sure. :D
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schroeder
Posted 2007-07-02 5:40 AM (#92571 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans


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Not decided yet - I love the first couple of minutes with the TW intro.

Went to see Pat Metheny and Brad Mehldau last night - $90 ticket and worth every penny. Absolutely fantastic. I even bought the Tshirt.
He played the Pikasso guitar - more staggering in the flesh than the crappy YouTube videos would suggest. It makes the most amazing sound. Wonder what the Ovation QC department could do with 42 tuners?
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dobro
Posted 2007-07-02 1:04 PM (#92572 - in reply to #92553)
Subject: Re: For John McLaughlin fans



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I just took a look at the PIKASSO and it blew my mind. Can you explain it a little? Reminds me of a hybrid Hedges Harp and Shakti!

PS: VERY YOUNG John and Larry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iubQ2tyz8s
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