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keven
Posted 2007-05-24 9:43 AM (#98900)
Subject: Deep Bowl


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Is there a database or spreadsheet of Ovation models(past and present) that were made with Deep Bowl bodies? :confused:
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-05-24 9:48 AM (#98901 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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Location: Phoenix AZ
Yes:

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/decoder.htm
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Mitchrx
Posted 2007-05-24 9:55 AM (#98902 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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Location: Carle Place, NY
Here's some of the most common, but perhaps not all, of the steel six string deep bowl Ovation models.

Balladeer: 1111, 1112, 1611, 1612, 1711, 1771, 6771, S771

Legend: 1117, 1119, 1617, 1667, 1619, 1669, 1717, 1719, 1777, 1779

Elite: 1537, 1718, 1778, 6778, S778

The models where the third digit is a 6 or 7 are the cutaway deep bowls.

There are special models too such as the Anniversary 1657 and Collectors 1982 and 1987.
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Steve
Posted 2007-05-24 10:08 AM (#98903 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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Mitch,
Wasn't there an OFC post somewhere that listed the different number designations for shallow and mid and deep and cutaway, etc? I remember seeing it before somewhere...
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-05-24 10:12 AM (#98904 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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It's all in the decoder ...
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Steve
Posted 2007-05-24 10:23 AM (#98905 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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The reason I asked, I was curious. I've made a list of specifications for a future special order. I think the model# might end up being a 6791 or a 6797, something like that..if the factory stays consistent with their numbering system.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-05-24 10:53 AM (#98906 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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You should specify EXACTLY what you want the label to say on your custom. Otherwise the factory tends to just put on a label with a model number that is "close".

For example, I had a wideneck custom legend built and they put a Folklore label on it. I guess because it had a wide neck. The new Koa slothead guitars have an Elite model number on them. Go figure.

I tried to order guitars with NO labels and even pay EXTRA for the honor, but they would not do it. There is some label nazi that ensures all guitar must have labels. Stupidest thing I ever heard of (other than having to plug in your guitar to make the tuner work).

Ovation does a GREAT job on the first 95% of the process.

Dave
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Steve
Posted 2007-05-24 11:34 AM (#98907 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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A 'lable nazi', that's hysterical... I'll send you a copy of my spec's off the board. Tell me what you think...I've gone into detail, and a few things I might have to provide myself. I don't know how accomidating the factory will be.
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muzza
Posted 2007-05-25 12:03 AM (#98908 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl



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How much extra to specify a 'proper' metal foil label?

I've considered buying an old wrecked 1111 or similar and sticking its foil label in my 05. (I'll stick it right where the FRG sticker was) The old labels were so much classier than the paper ones.

But we know that.
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Grif
Posted 2007-05-25 12:09 AM (#98909 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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I've always thought the same thing muzza, it probably was done as a cost-saving measure.

The foil is a far better label. The current ones look like they come off an old laser printer.
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keven
Posted 2007-05-25 3:53 PM (#98910 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl


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I made a cut at the "deep bowls" that I may be looking for in the future(it seems that the 1711 is the only one in current production):

name Model Years Made Made In Strings Format Cutaway Bowl Headstock Output
Balladeer 1761 1994-1998 USA Steel 6 Yes DEEP PegHead A/E
Balladeer 1711 1993-1999 USA Steel 6 NO DEEP PegHead A/E
Balladeer 1611 1982-1984 USA Steel 6 NO DEEP PegHead A/E
Custom Balladeer 1712 1985-1994 USA Steel 6 NO DEEP PegHead A/E
Longneck DS768 1995-1999 USA Steel 6 YES DEEP PegHead A/E

A 'list price' range column might also be usefull?
:)
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Heather48dd
Posted 2007-05-30 2:18 PM (#98911 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl
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Location: Nashville
I own the old 1717 and purchased it new way back 22-23 year ago I think......somthing like that.That guitar has lasted the test of time.No repairs.electronics work fine.I own 4 guitars now and 2 Ovations.I'd say the new Ovations have better necks and blance than the older guitars and better sound on the electronics.But the Old Ovation has that sound that puts Martin and Taylors forever out of my life.Because the Old Ovation Sounds better.And still plays better than a Martin or Taylor.And I just love the action on my Ovartion necks.No Taylor can play like that.
Thanks Heather
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-05-30 2:42 PM (#98912 - in reply to #98900)
Subject: Re: Deep Bowl



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Location: south east Michigan
Heather...
If it has not been mentioned yet.... welcome aboard.
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