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Slipkid
Posted 2004-12-20 1:43 PM (#169422)
Subject: Two Questions



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Number 1: I attemped to take a shim out from under the saddle. Couldn't do it. Are there half thickness shims available?
Number 2: Anyone ever hear of an harmonica in D#?
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cliff
Posted 2004-12-20 1:50 PM (#169423 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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#1 : You can make one out of a good hard consistent material of the desired thickness

#2: It would also be listed as an E-flat.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-12-20 1:50 PM (#169424 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions



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1 - You can substitute any hard plastic or film, such as a Credit card or laminate as a shim.

2 - No, but I've played "Cannon in D" in "G".
:rolleyes:
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Brian T
Posted 2004-12-20 1:54 PM (#169425 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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Hey Brad, I've played your Al Di Meola, and that has the lowest action I have seen on an Acoustic, why would you want to lower it? Or are you talking about your balladeer?

The shims I have seen just lay in the slot, they are not pressed in or tight, you may need a tooth pick or a string end to help pick them up.

I have some spare shims if you need any. You can also make them out of thin pieces of hardwood that you can buy at hobby shop They are used for models. I have even carefully sanded down the stock shims on an angle (using a hard flat surface) to form a wedge when I want the action lower on one side.
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playadamas
Posted 2004-12-20 2:03 PM (#169426 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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Kim K. from Ovation service once told me to use milk carton material for shims.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-12-20 2:37 PM (#169427 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions



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Thanks gang.
The shims are a hard pheonlic material. I beleive the pick-up also get signal from the top, not just the strings. Am I right? So, any material that will not dampen vibration should work.
I know the action is already very good. I just wondered if the set-up guy at the factory left any room or if there was different thickness to the shims.
If I had the time I'd answer my second question with a picture of harmonica with a capo clamped on it.
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an4340
Posted 2004-12-20 3:16 PM (#169428 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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I don't know if it's standard, but I asked the factory, via the dealer to send me some more shims, and I got half thickness shims, which worked just fine.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-12-20 3:35 PM (#169429 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions



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WWW.HARPHOUSE.COM
e-flat harmonicas a-plenty.
I guess I should have just done a google search first.
BrianT...if we want to do Southern Man with tuned down guitars wouldn't you need a g-flat harmonica?
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cliff
Posted 2004-12-20 4:12 PM (#169430 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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. . . or an F#.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-12-20 4:22 PM (#169431 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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Brad, if you want to experiment with shim thickness for action, you can get Evergreen StripStyrene plastic at any good hobby store. It comes in .005" graduations in thickness and .020" or so graduations in width. Old Guard Hobby on Van Dyke around 16 Mile should have it. Just cut the length of the strip you need to fit.

Roger
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cruster
Posted 2004-12-20 7:31 PM (#169432 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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Originally posted by cliff:
. . . or an F#.


Could be an E##, depending on how many trips around the circle of fifths (or how many circles around the fifth) you've made.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-12-20 7:47 PM (#169433 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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Hohner, Lee Oscar, Herring, Suzuki & several other manufacturers make diatonic harps in all 12 keys. If you're stuck my company is a Suzuki dealer, but the £/$ exchange rate isn't good for importing right now.
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xnoel
Posted 2004-12-20 9:31 PM (#169434 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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I know nothing about harp playing, but when we were playing "Saint James Infirmary" in Am, the harp player was using a harmonica in D flat? At any rate something other than A.

noel
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BruDeV
Posted 2004-12-20 10:01 PM (#169435 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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A minor = C major
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-12-21 3:01 AM (#169436 - in reply to #169422)
Subject: Re: Two Questions


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For blues it's called playing in 2nd position or "cross-harp" For A you'd use a D, C would be F, D/G and so on. For Country & folk styles (straight harp) you'd use a harp in the same key as the song. For minor keys there are harps available tuned to minor scales, or as BruDev said you could use a harp in the related major key
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