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Mukke
Posted 2004-11-27 1:01 PM (#172608 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?


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Location: Germany
Reading your post Bailey, I rememberd this storry. I had a school mate, a girl which had a great talent for language. She often bunked off English nevertheless she’d passed all exams with excellent grades. When I ask her one day to write some English lyrics to a melody I made, it just took her an hour. We were close buddies during the time when drugs become interesting for young people. Well, until today I ask myself why she became far more involved in drugs than I. When I met her the last time (10 years ago) she hardly even recognized me because of being stoned, and she had turned from a pretty girl into a wreck. I have never found a way to stop her.

What is it, that such talented persons live so near to the border of dangerous excessive life? Duncan J tried to explain it with curing the depressive phases, earlier in this thread. Don’t know. Sometimes I think those people just speed up everything they do. They learn faster have more brilliant creative ideas in the a short time. But they also consume the double amount of beer in the same time, are quickly bored rush for the next thrill (substance, friends, whatever) and finally they look with 30 as I will look with 60.
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leftovertion
Posted 2004-11-27 9:39 PM (#172609 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?


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Posts: 338

Location: Omaha
Well, at the risk of sounding simplistic, there are usually two reasons why folks end up at such an end: genetics, and environment. You've been discussing the genetics, whether it's creativity or mental disorders (both of which run in my family: my grandmother spent most of her adult life being severly depressed; scares me to death). Mix that genetic makeup with an unhealthy family (okay, let's just say it - parents!), and you've got a recipe for what you've all been discussing for several pages. Whether the parents were also alcoholics or drug abusers, or they divorced, or abused/neglected their children - any or a mixture of these spell an unstable environment which leaves the strongest of persons looking for safety, love and meaning in life - imagine what this environment does to a person who already has a predisposition to depression, etc.!

Anyway, some things to think about. And I realize that some people also grow up in stable loving homes and have no genetic reason(s) for their insane behavior; those I chalk up to the Biblical/theological observation of human behavior that runs through the scriptural narrative from end to end: your/my/our human sinfulness/selfishness.

Okay, I'll get down off my pulpit now until tomorrow morning...

;) :( :rolleyes:
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Bailey
Posted 2004-11-28 3:00 AM (#172610 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?


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Location: Las Cruces, NM
Just a simplistic observation

Life is HARD and seldom rewards even the best.

To eat, escape the elements, and poop in private takes a lot of effort.

Driven people are astounded that they are the only ones that see their accomplishments, not realizing that even the village idiot thinks it has achieved greatness and seldom does anyone else see beyond their own small victory of eating, staying out of the rain, and pooping in the socially and TV like sterile poop room, much less admire the Driven soul.

Great accomplishments take great preoccupation, usually leading to long periods of unemployment as they don't pay $15 an hour for lapses into a meditative state that leads to that killer song or lick, this sometimes leads to pooping in filthy public restrooms and eating baloney in an old car.

Finally, your masterly crafted songs become hits and all of the sudden Jack Daniels is as cheap as bubble gum and you are still pooping in public or motel toilets, but the embarrassment is mitigated by the Jack Daniels. OR, it all fails and you sit in a cheap flophouse drinking out of a 4 liter wine jug and blaming society after you have pawned all your possessions and outlived your welcome.

The outcome is the same!!
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-11-28 11:54 AM (#172611 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?
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Posts: 2487

Hey Did someone say YES!!!!!!!! Have I!!!!!!!! Would I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did I tell YA I Like "THE YES" !

Did someone say Drugs! Have I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would I !!!!!!!!!! Did I ???????????????????

Some people get lucky enough to outgrow it and get past it. That's the "Drugs" Not "THE YES" !!!!!!!!!!!

Still say if you have "One good eye" "Two good Teeth" a "Hole in your guitar" and are wearing a set of Goodwill cloths you can Play the blues better than the next guy!

But if you go by the purists you have to have lived it to be able to play it. So I stay away from it I made it through OK so far. Got nothin to be Blue about so I'll never know I guess?

So whats the verdict? What are the Blues players who used Ovations?????? This guy had an interesting question. I know I don't know the answer.


Randy
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Bailey
Posted 2004-11-29 2:03 AM (#172612 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?


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Randy

The answer is YES, some great blues players, in the 70's (Ovations were invented in the 60's) played Ovations. They, like most of the OFC members, spent all their time playing blues and neglected to make any well known CD's or albums. Most of them eventually pawned their Ovations (as I did one time when I was broke) and continued their excellent blues playing on borrowed guitars. Their names were, Sonny, Brownie, Sonny Brownie, and Terry, and Terry Sonny Brownie. As I recall, there was a Brownie Sonny, but he died from an overdose of Vioxx. There were also some white imitations with names like Al, Miles, PMoodypi, Paultee, and HonkyCliff who played a watered down form of blues devoid of any blues shouts or, God forbid, any salacious references to SEX (giggle, giggle) that might compromise their web site which was dedicated to making sure the words Ovation and SEX didn't appear in the same sentence on the world wide web.

Yes, Randy, there was a Santa bluesy Ovation Claus.

Bailey
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alpep
Posted 2004-11-29 7:35 AM (#172613 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?


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Posts: 10583

Location: NJ
all my blues have references to santaria
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sixfingers
Posted 2004-11-29 4:20 PM (#172614 - in reply to #172558)
Subject: Re: Blues on Ovation?


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Posts: 100

Location: Asheville, North Carolina
I have a rock blues song I recorded at home on my Elite LX... it has a few tracks, one of which is slide. The playing is sloppy but the guitar works well. I did have a problem with the guitars pickup, but Ovation is sending me a new updated housing for the low output problem pickup. If anyone wants to hear the recording I think I can email it to you.
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